Newbie Club Thread #3

That last post wasn't meant to be snippy. I just noticed that typed words don't quite carry their humor as they were spoken. Oops!

Anyway--what are the newbie theories?


I thought it was funny! :rolling:

I think it either had to do with the pool or Caylee got into Casey's pill stash or whatever she may have had. I do think if something happened in the pool, it was the result of Casey passing out and/or being drunk when it happened. Otherwise I can't imagine why she would go through a big coverup, unless it wasn't something she couldn't get in trouble for. Did that make sense? My brain isn't working right this morning. I can't seem to spit out what I'm trying to say :crazy:
 
Goodmorning.. I hope something happens today and Caylee is brought home.
I have nothing new in mind. Except today I feel Caylee is alive.... This whole case is just like a movie.

I can't wait for the truth to come out.

Like most of us, I was sure Caylee would not be found alive. Until last night. I was walking my dog and as I looked up at the nearly-full moon, out of the corner of my eye I saw a bright star. Right then for the first time the thought struck me that Caylee was alive. Oh, I'm not psychic, do not pick up on "vibes", don't get "feelings"--I don't believe in that stuff. Well, I never did.
Now, I just don't know. :crazy: The one thing I do know is that we have to find Caylee.
Thanks for starting the newbie thread. I am not comfortable sitting at the grown-op's table just yet. I feel safe here. :cool:
 
I thought it was funny! :rolling:

I think it either had to do with the pool or Caylee got into Casey's pill stash or whatever she may have had. I do think if something happened in the pool, it was the result of Casey passing out and/or being drunk when it happened. Otherwise I can't imagine why she would go through a big coverup, unless it wasn't something she couldn't get in trouble for. Did that make sense? My brain isn't working right this morning. I can't seem to spit out what I'm trying to say :crazy:

I figured she came to the house to steal $$$$ (since my theory would have her sneaking back home a day after a big falling out with the fam) and while she's digging through the house for cards, cash, etc-Caylee decides to go swimming. Midday, hot Florida sun-nobody is out---by the time Casey notices it is too late. She lays Caylee in the playhouse and drives away--drives around to figure out what to do(just like her mother does--i.e. the night Cindy picked Casey up and it all fell apart). She decides to come back for the baby but now the neighbor is out so she borrows a shovel thinking there's no way to leave with the baby-but...neighbor gives a window of opportunity by mentioning the shower and Casey is able to move Caylee after all. By this time her panic button has already taken over for normal behavior--she doesn't strike me as the kind of girl who has a functioning coping mechanism. Idon't know...
 
Like most of us, I was sure Caylee would not be found alive. Until last night. I was walking my dog and as I looked up at the nearly-full moon, out of the corner of my eye I saw a bright star. Right then for the first time the thought struck me that Caylee was alive. Oh, I'm not psychic, do not pick up on "vibes", don't get "feelings"--I don't believe in that stuff. Well, I never did.
Now, I just don't know. :crazy: The one thing I do know is that we have to find Caylee.
Thanks for starting the newbie thread. I am not comfortable sitting at the grown-op's table just yet. I feel safe here. :cool:

I'm not psychic either, but I feel that for better or worse, Caylee will be found very soon.
 
IMO, if Casey owed drug people money, they would 'get rid of a child'
they would not want to be caught on a trail of this mess. Some say she sold Caylee, if so why in the woods of the airport? Is Caylee out of country?? If you were the babysitter, wouldn't you just turn the baby over? So much crazy info, I still feel she is in heaven. I pray she is found, it would be a blessing to find her alive, but what she has gone through in 9 weeks, I hope she never gets back into that dysfunctional family. IMO, I think there is a dirty little blackmail 'SECRET' in the family. Like molestation of Casey??? She has something over her family......because she went over the limits of morals all the time like spitting in their face and the parents just take it.......why??? An adopted family would be better for Caylee if she is found alive, IMO.
 
I thought it was funny to. Hard to tell emotion throught writing..

My theory is Caylee is alive. I think Casey was into something, drugs or call girl, and during the time she was working she had someone watch Caylee. Maybe she didnt know the person that well. Maybe this person got into trouble and had to take off while caylee was in her care. I know far fetched... Maybe Casey left Caylee with her for a few extra days longer than explected.. and the lady got fed up and just left.. Or maybe the lady was a distant relative who wanted Caylee.. And like someone said before.. Its been such a long time that they dont want to come forward.....

i am all over the place.. So Sorry..:confused:
 
IMO, if Casey owed drug people money, they would 'get rid of a child'
they would not want to be caught on a trail of this mess. Some say she sold Caylee, if so why in the woods of the airport? Is Caylee out of country?? If you were the babysitter, wouldn't you just turn the baby over? So much crazy info, I still feel she is in heaven. I pray she is found, it would be a blessing to find her alive, but what she has gone through in 9 weeks, I hope she never gets back into that dysfunctional family. IMO, I think there is a dirty little blackmail 'SECRET' in the family. Like molestation of Casey??? She has something over her family......because she went over the limits of morals all the time like spitting in their face and the parents just take it.......why??? An adopted family would be better for Caylee if she is found alive, IMO.

I guess all families have skeletons in their closet, but the Anthony's do seem to rattle a bit. I'm not sure it's as dark as this "case" would make it seem, after all-the public really only gets a fraction of the available information. The one thing I DO think is odd is the lack of declaration of Caylee's paternity. I think there is a strong possibility that Caylee's father may be involved in her disappearance.....
 
See, I told you someone would come out and smack me:eek: (just kidding poco) i just don't have the time to read 125 posts on whether Casey will try to off herself....when I check back there are 3 more threads with 500 posts to read! i have to work and take care of my non-cyber life, house,etc.
Even if taking the tack that Caylee is alive is a less than popular opinion, taking the discussion off the main line and dogging old posters doesn't help the case at all.

As long as you state your opinions respsectfully, there is not much that legacy posters can say.

Also, by having read a ton prior to posting you can see that the feeling here is you may say pretty much whatever you want, as long as you qualify it with JMO, IMO... all meaning in essence that it's only your opinion, or at least the existeing 15k + posters can....

I am a new poster here as well, in fact this is my first post, but only due to the fact that I have been unsuccessful in getting registered for almost 4 months.
I have participated in net message borsd for almost 12 tears, and there is always the group of original posters that "run" the board, you just have to ignore the sniping.

**Edited for typo
 
This may all be common sense, but I think looking at new information when it comes in and making a judgment call is not the best way. I think a lot of the general public and the news blurbs forget to take the new information and add it to and review it against the old information. It seems a lot of the new information is put out to correct the initial info which is the best info because it is real and on spot. There has not been enough time to create anything. The first reaction is always the best and most telling IMO.

Sorry if this is a long post. Feel free to skip it.

When the story first broke, it was automatically a missing child case. There was a missing child after all. Then we hear the first 911 calls. THEY ARE CRUCIAL IMO because it goes to show state of mind of Cindy and Casey. Now mind you Casey knows what happened to Caylee at the time of the calls, but her reaction cannot be mistaken for anything other than callous.

Now feel free to correct me if I am wrong. There is a lot of misinformation going around and it's difficult to weed through the good posts and the "feeling" posts.

Cindy gets the notice about the car. As a mother my first thought would be fear based. The other day, my 13 years old daughter walked to school as she does every morning at 7am. At 10:30am I get an automated call from the school saying she is absent. IMMEDIATELY I am in fear mode! I am dialing the school and trying to remember what she was wearing and thinking the worst. Natural reaction. The school verifies she is there and it was a misunderstanding. Whew! So when Cindy, who has not "seen" Casey or Caylee since Father's day gets this notice of the car being towed and abandoned her first reaction is most likely fear and may be anger knowing how her daughter is.

Cindy to me appears to be an enabler personality. She controls how she and her family are seen in the public eye, even if in reality she has no control. Her home must look a certain way, her family must be viewed in a certain light, and she is probably the keeper of all the family secrets. This is my opinion after observing her.

So, Cindy gets the car back. First thing anyone would do is rifle through it for information and call the last person to have the vehicle, Casey. I have no idea if her phone records were checked or if Casey's show Cindy calling her at that moment. She finds Amy's resume and contacts her who then gives Cindy Casey's location. I am unsure if she had opened the trunk at this point but I will speculate she found what she needed when finding the resume and ceased her search at that point. So, now fear is over and this is just Casey being Casey (irresponsible and who knows what else) in her mind. Cindy is angry and frustrated. She has lost control of the situation.

She retrieves Casey and they have it out. At this point Cindy is furious with Casey and wants to teach her a lesson. What ever Casey has been up to is about to come to a head and Cindy has the ability now to regain control. She does so by calling 911 to have Casey arrested. This way she can at least say she is a good mother trying to teach her daughter a lesson and in the long run Casey will thank her and she will appear to be the hero mother sacrificing herself by doing the right thing.

We know that there was no Caylee and I speculate Cindy was concerned. I believe Cindy knew Casey's habits were to pawn Caylee off on anyone willing to watch her or worse, take Caylee with her to these parties and stick her in a room with the tv. So at this point she was probably thinking Caylee was with a friend of Casey's. Casey is hitting her with complete resistance in the car at the police station during the first call and Cindy tries to regain control by threatening to out Casey's secrets and gain custody of little Caylee. Cindy still has no reason to think anything bad happened to Caylee.

The 911 call where Cindy freaks out about an odor. I speculate that while Cindy was in the car with Casey, George was at the house checking the car. That is what anyone would do who just got their car back from a tow lot. He opens the trunk and smells something wrong. Meanwhile Cindy and Casey fight. Cindy most likely continues the threats again trying to regain control. She is angry and rightly so. Casey is of no help and the threats have no effect because they have been made repeatedly IMO through the years with no real consequences. She calls 911 again and by this time George has most likely shown Cindy the trunk hence the "smells like a dead body" remark. Meanwhile Casey is in the bedroom with Lee. Cindy's world is spinning out of control.

The most important evidence to me is Casey's interaction with the 911 operator. She is not upset. She is breathing normally. She appears in no way impacted by the day's events. The 911 operator on the other hand appears shocked and scolds Casey. Remember, these 911 operators hear it all and for the operator to react this way is very telling.

So the police arrive and Casey is questioned. She lies and the police know it and call her on it. They even offer to let her change her story in the hopes this can be resolved. I think that says a lot about how Cindy, George, Lee and Casey were behaving at the time. A family unit, no matter how functional or dysfunctional will not turn on one another unless they whole heartedly believe it's best to cut the line and save everyone else. Caylee is missing and they have turned on her. That was their initial reaction. George telling the police "something is wrong" is what I base this on.

Casey knows what to expect when the police arrive. I speculate she really has no fear of police considering her background. She may even be thinking that her family will fix this, tell the police everything is fine (after all the car is returned and it's just a family spat), and nothing will happen...no arrest. But the police aren't there about the car anymore. They are there because Caylee is missing. Casey lies and continues to lie. She is arrested.

Aside from that, there is no real evidence. There is the car, the searches, the photos of her partying, gas cans, and lies. Nothing more. No body, no babysitter, no friends coming forward with any pertinent information, just speculation and a missing girl. The cell phone pings may be helpful but without information from Casey or any of her friends during that period, I doubt they are of any use. They will be more important once Caylee is found in prosecuting Casey.

And the media circus begins. Background searches of friends on myspace begin. The hunt for who Casey really is soon starts. It's not good what is found. More lies from Casey. Cindy trying to control the media and how her family is presented. Washing clothing, taking interviews, giving house tours. It's all to control how Cindy is perceived. Then visit calls are released. Still no one comes forward. Casey is showing no remorse or concern. Now if, IF Caylee was alive and Casey did nothing wrong, she would indeed be assisting with the search by talking to police. After all, in the very beginning, if Casey could have taken them to Caylee none of this would have transpired. It would just be trouble about the car and it could all be fixed and forgiven. By her not talking, she is perpetuating the assumption by many that she did something to Caylee.

The visit call between Cindy and Casey is interesting too and backs my thoughts on Cindy being the family keeper of secrets. Casey says,

"I just saw your nice little cameo on TV."

Casey is sarcastic and pissed.

"I don't want any of you guys coming up here when I have my first hearing for bond," Anthony tells her brother Lee Anthony. "Like don't even (expletive) waste your time."

Casey is in trouble, she knows it and she is feeling sorry for herself. She has been betrayed by her family (in her eyes) and there is nothing they can do to save her.

"You don't know what my involvement is in (inaudible)?" Casey Anthony asked.

"Casey," Cindy Anthony said.

"Mom," Casey Anthony said.

I have had these conversations with people. It is ALWAYS about a secret that you do not want to speak out loud but you want to get the point across that you know and they should know you know.

So what does Cindy know? Is Casey trying to say simply that what she told her mother about a babysitter is true and she is angry her mother doesn't believe her and she ended up in jail because of it? Or is it Casey's way of saying you know how I live. You know I am a screw up. You tell me this all of the time. So you know what happened to her. After all I am in jail.

Everything since the 911 calls and the initial visit calls has been nothing short of a shiny red ball to distract people. The truth is hiding in the first few days this story broke.

Re-read the complete transcript of the first jail house call. This is the entire thing, not just the blurbs they show on the boob tube. http://www.local6.com/news/16993169/detail.html

Tell me what you think!
 
Clock's Ticking- that's a really good theory.

MaggiesMom- that's really interesting. I hope so badly your feeling is right.
 
thanks for the link to the transcript of that whole first phone conversation. Reading it in it's entirety re-affirms my opinion that Casey showed her true colors with her attitude and priorities that night. I also got a more clear take on Lee's interaction.
 
I asked this question over on general discussion, didn't get it answered so I thought I'd try here. Would someone please explain about the hearing Thur., the time it will be, is it televised, what exactly does it entail. Thanks.
 
"You don't know what my involvement is in (inaudible)?" Casey Anthony asked.

"Casey," Cindy Anthony said.

"Mom," Casey Anthony said.

I have had these conversations with people. It is ALWAYS about a secret that you do not want to speak out loud but you want to get the point across that you know and they should know you know.

Wow, you're exactly right. I didn't even pick that up until you said it. Not just the words, but even the tone she used suggests this.

The one thing I still don't understand is on the first 911 call, Casey tells Cindy "Just give me one more day" to turn Caylee over. If she did in fact do something to Caylee, why would she ask for one more day? Was she just going to disappear again?
 
I do think Casey wanted one more day so she could disappear or push it off for another day. She appears to be the type of person to wait until the very last second to deal with anything real. If Cindy would have let her go that day and not pushed the issue, I wonder if we would even know yet that Caylee is missing.
 
I asked this question over on general discussion, didn't get it answered so I thought I'd try here. Would someone please explain about the hearing Thur., the time it will be, is it televised, what exactly does it entail. Thanks.

I believe it's the hearing on the charges of child (neglect)? and whatever else she is jailed for right now. They stated in the other thread that her plea was already in, it was not guilty via her laywer.
 
I have been lurking (and posting) on the "grown up" threads. No one will answer me! Boo-hoo. I have found out .Fox reported that Casey will not be getting out today because of some holds. Maybe tomorrow.

PS: Housemouse is the only one who has answered me!

PSS: hello to all you newbies
 
lovejac- isn't that what they said yesterday? I'm assuming it will be the same story tomorrow?
 
I have been lurking (and posting) on the "grown up" threads. No one will answer me! Boo-hoo. I have found out .Fox reported that Casey will not be getting out today because of some holds. Maybe tomorrow.

Padilla apparently did not submit required paperwork on time for a possible release today . . . Newbies Rock!!!:rocker:

Don't get discourged!!! I use the Search function on this forum's tool bar when no one answers me -- or I go to Google & search myself. Sometimes it is not worth the "grief" of others "reading" emotions into question-posts
 
Welcome Lovejac! cjcord- that was my exact thought too. I wonder if she will actually get out?

Wait a second- now they're reporting she could get out any moment now. But this is Fox after all, anything that gets you to keep on watching...
 

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