GUILTY NH - AH, 14, North Conway, 9 October 2013 - #10

[LookingHoping]

I think they aren't sharing it more for preventing copycats than for her safety. There is no reason to share it anyways. If it was necessary to share the contents they would have done so, otherwise it's a private communication.

Maybe, but either way I don't think "I ran away" with an explanation of her safety would keep LE/FBI on the case. And if she did and if it did keep them on the case, I feel confident they would have found her by now as a happy runaway teen certainly would be out and about after this long and would have been seen.

 

[geevee]

I think that Cheese is onto the exact reason that Abby's classification has not changed. The analysis of the letter would have been very different depending on whether it was hand written or typed. Handwriting analysis can tell a lot with regard to line weight, stroke, etc as to whether it was written under duress and a typed letter has its own set of unique criteria for determining authenticity. It is my belief that FBI employs the very best in these fields and I feel confident that they have done that so it does not surprise me that between Nov 6 and the PC on Nov 22 that it took that long to analyze it. Of course at that time we had no idea there even was a letter from AH, but looking back I can see that Zenya's letter was a response to the letter that they received. It was short, simplistic and handwritten. I think that is significant.
"Abby's mother has asked to make a plea to Abby..."
not really IMO. ZH is not comfortable at ALL with public appearances.
"Dear Abby I believe you're out there, somewhere, watching and listening to me right now..."
I feel that this is an attempt to illicit a reaction, that if it WAS written by Abby to respond again, this time with a hand written letter like I have.

http://www.bringabbyhome.com/press-conference-from-1122-mom-reads-a-letter-to-abby/

http://www.bringabbyhome.com/letter-from-mom-to-abby/

Totally agree, Steleheart.

 

[cluciano63]

Maybe, but either way I don't think "I ran away" with an explanation of her safety would keep LE/FBI on the case. And if she did and if it did keep them on the case, I feel confident they would have found her by now as a happy runaway teen certainly would be out and about after this long and would have been seen.

I doubt they are active on her case all the time. But she is a missing minor, they could not prove beyond a doubt the letter was from her, and as discussed today, there is no way to determine if she wrote it freely, if she did write it. I don't think LE wants to be on the wrong end of this case, if it turns out she was kidnapped by a random, so they have to stay on top of it, IMO.

 

[Mom24]

There are many definitions of the word "TONE" but only one really applies to the written language: style or manner of expression in speaking or writing.

I expect this means, like many have said, words, phrases and writing style/patterns that Abby would use. All the social media, plus her schoolwork would give them plenty of examples of her tone.

If the letter was being dictated to her or written by a captor, it would be the captor's tone, not Abby's. I believe this is significant if they believe it is Abby's tone. The only caveat, IMO, is that another teenager could possibly have pulled off a fake.

If she was under duress, the words and phrases would match those of when she was angry or upset on social media. Conversely, if she was not under duress they should be able to determine that also from her postings.

BBM
EXCELLENT point Bill!

 

[MURDERER_SERVANT]

http://m.wmur.com/news/ruben-hernan...ail/-/17440650/22804638/-/jdiplq/-/index.html


Not that to sleuth Dad but isn't it odd that he knows Abby's password ? He stated so in his letter dd 4 Nov above and I find it overinvasive..
And he is concerned about her warmth and eating (?) but doesn't mention the worst fear which is whether she's held against her will or not ?? Just my opinions.

 

[cluciano63]

http://m.wmur.com/news/ruben-hernan...ail/-/17440650/22804638/-/jdiplq/-/index.html


Not that to sleuth Dad but isn't it odd that he knows Abby's password ? He stated so in his letter dd 4 Nov above and I find it a bit overinvasive..
And he is concerned about her warmth and eating (?) but doesn't mention the worst fear which is whether she's held against her will or not ?? Just my opinions.

Maybe they shares some online Bible thing...who knows. Also I do not find the warm and eating that weird...parents do not like to imagine the other, much less put it into words.

 

[LookingHoping]

I know all my kids' passwords to all their social media, email, computers, etc.

 

[Curiosum]

http://m.wmur.com/news/ruben-hernan...ail/-/17440650/22804638/-/jdiplq/-/index.html


Not that to sleuth Dad but isn't it odd that he knows Abby's password ? He stated so in his letter dd 4 Nov above and I find it overinvasive..
And he is concerned about her warmth and eating (?) but doesn't mention the worst fear which is whether she's held against her will or not ?? Just my opinions.

When I read his letter, I question if she had an eating disorder. Perhaps there was conflict over this and her treatment and perhaps he believes that she fled to get away from their efforts to help her. Admittedly, I'm reading this as a pediatrician and perhaps I'm way off base.

As far as dad (and or mom) knowing her online passwords, I'm not sure how I feel about that. My husband and I haven't been blessed with navigating adolescence yet but I do have colleagues who do require the passwords of any online accounts their minor children have. I'm not saying that will be the approach we take but I do think parents need to take some approach to ensure that their children are safe online.

 

[LookingHoping]

Are you a verified ped with WS?

As for passwords, I pay for their connection and the devices. My job is to keep them safe. If they change a password without telling me or I find them registered somewhere they didn't give me a password for they are done. Sorry, I put them in car seats as babies and toddlers, buckle them up, helmets for bike riding, I'll watch their online activity. I trust them fully....but even adults screw up their internet safety, a watchful eye is imperative. Same goes for texts.


This post has nothing to do with what I may or may not think of the father.....

 

[LookingHoping]

Maybe they shares some online Bible thing...who knows. Also I do not find the warm and eating that weird...parents do not like to imagine the other, much less put it into words.

I've never met Abby and I get sick thinking about all 'that'. I can't go there mentally for her never mind imagining my own children. I think worrying about all that is completely normal and expected.

 

[LookingHoping]

http://m.wmur.com/news/ruben-hernan... the spectrum of possibilities in his letter.

 

[lillygator]

I know all my kids' passwords to all their social media, email, computers, etc.

as will I as my kids get older, or they will not live under my roof.

 

[Curiosum]

Are you a verified ped with WS?

I'm not sure what this means

 

[tlcya]

a verified poster is someone who has been vetted by site admin as to who they claim to be and how they claim to be an insider to a specific case.

This site has verified experts in their fields (doctors, lawyers, etc)

they also have some members who are verified family members or friends of the the victim or key players in a case.

to read about the verification process click on the appropriate link beneath my siggy.

 

[tlcya]

I'm not sure what this means

:wagon:

Welcome to Websleuths

 

[eileenhawkeye]

When I read his letter, I question if she had an eating disorder. Perhaps there was conflict over this and her treatment and perhaps he believes that she fled to get away from their efforts to help her. Admittedly, I'm reading this as a pediatrician and perhaps I'm way off base.

As far as dad (and or mom) knowing her online passwords, I'm not sure how I feel about that. My husband and I haven't been blessed with navigating adolescence yet but I do have colleagues who do require the passwords of any online accounts their minor children have. I'm not saying that will be the approach we take but I do think parents need to take some approach to ensure that their children are safe online.

I had absolutely zero online supervision (I would be on the Internet starting at age 10, upstairs, with the door locked, and when my parents would knock on the door, I would exit out of it before opening up LOL) growing up. I never did anything bad (although I did AIM chat with plenty of complete strangers from Neopets.com). So while I understand parents wanting to monitor their kid's Internet, I am so grateful that my mine didn't care about that.

 

[LookingHoping]

a verified poster is someone who has been vetted by site admin as to who they claim to be and how they claim to be an insider to a specific case.

This site has verified experts in their fields (doctors, lawyers, etc)

they also have some members who are verified family members or friends of the the victim or key players in a case.

to read about the verification process click on the appropriate link beneath my siggy.

Thx. Took me that long to find link! Verification Process for Professional or Insider Posters - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community. Which I'm putting here just to prove I found the darn thing lol

 

[LookingHoping]

I had absolutely zero online supervision (I would be on the Internet starting at age 10, upstairs, with the door locked, and when my parents would knock on the door, I would exit out of it before opening up LOL) growing up. I never did anything bad (although I did AIM chat with plenty of complete strangers from Neopets.com). So while I understand parents wanting to monitor their kid's Internet, I am so grateful that my mine didn't care about that.

For me it has nothing at all to do with trusting them. It is about keeping them safe. I do not go read every thing every day. I check in now and then...more rarely than they think! I have also told them if they keep a journal in a doc or book that is off limits to me unless I have clear reason to feel they are in danger. I'm not sneaking anything....trying to respect them and be honest. Even five yrs ago the amt of social networking was much less. Too many scams, creeps, etc to let them free I to the world at these young ages..,which is what social networking does. IMHO

Doesn't seem this is directly on topic except for that it shows differences in parenting and why we cannot make any assumptions we gather from letters or other media (nor rumor). The focus needs to be on getting this child back home safe and sound.



Where are you Abby???

 

[Curiosum]

:wagon:

Welcome to Websleuths

Thanks! (and I sent a PM to one of the moderators). I really didn't intend to speak out of turn but when I read his letter that is what struck me. Having said that I'm getting one snippet of his perspective and I may be going in a completely off base direction because I've seen diagnoses like this become a nightmare for children and families. His statement may be completely nothing more than hoping his child is meeting her basic Maslow hierarchy which I think all parents wish for. I guess it was just that he mentioned it several times which made me pick up on this.

 

[Curiosum]

For me it has nothing at all to do with trusting them. It is about keeping them safe. I dint go read every thing every day. I check in now and then...more rarely than they think! I have also told them if they keep a journal in a doc or book that is off limits to me unless I have clear Eason to feel they are in danger. I'm not sneaking anything....trying to respect them and be honest. Even five yrs ago the amt of social networking was much less. Too many scams, creeps, etc to let them free I to the world at these young ages..,which is what social networking does. IMHO

I agree with this. I don't think taking steps to keep your children safe implies that you don't trust them. Unfortunately we live in a world with some less than trustworthy individuals and I think we have a responsibility and a duty to look out for those who aren't quite able to look out for themselves.