GUILTY NH - AH, 14, North Conway, 9 October 2013 - #12

[necco]

It's very interesting that she's not hospitalized. It certainly sounds like she needs a specialized diet and IV fluids.

Pensfan
verified psychiatric mental health nurse

Isn't her mom a nurse? Maybe, given her mom's training and the notoriety involved in this case, they've opted to treat her at home under careful supervision.

This poor, poor girl.

 

[momrids6]

Earlier it was said that she was in good health.

If she has been starved, feeding her high caloric food will send her into shock which can be lethal.

Pensfan
verified psychiatric mental health nurse

could be in the past 5 days she has refused to eat..imo

I'm with you- she needs to be in a hospital with psych services, as Linda7 mentioned upthread too

 

[mpnola]

I am so glad they released a statement. It is not about "deserve" versus privacy or anything. It is about making a community feel appreciated and letting them in a little bit! I hope this will be the turning point where most (I know it will never be all) of the negative talk will stop and the support will start again. People are generally supportive until they feel misled or taken advantage of, even if it is only a feeling, not necessarily a reality. I think this will make people feel more connected again. I hope. Get better soon, sweet child!!! The thousands of people who were invested in the plight to find you are also invested to see you succeed in life! You have a world of support behind you for life now!

 

[Pensfan]

"Associate Attorney General Jane Young said Abby was in good condition. Experts said her safe return and good health indicate someone was, in some form or another, caring for her."

http://www.wcvb.com/news/photos-rel...-disappearance-mystery/27095538#ixzz38XSyrhCv

 

[margarita25]

This whole thing is really disturbing, thinking about the possibilities. It's so great that Abby is back home.

LE has given us this sketch. I wonder if they have tried to crosscheck it like they do on CSI using facial recognition software. I wonder if that technology exists in real life, surely it does. And if so, it has not yielded a hit which could imply this guy is not in their data base at all.

This is all really scary. Time is of essence obviously if there is some active perv out there enticing / kidnapping young girls. I wish LE would comment on this aspect more. In Jessica Ridgeway's case, LE really went out of their way to stress the danger to the community and the aspect of a predator on the loose.

 

[margarita25]

"Associate Attorney General Jane Young said Abby was in good condition. Experts said her safe return and good health indicate someone was, in some form or another, caring for her."

http://www.wcvb.com/news/photos-rel...-disappearance-mystery/27095538#ixzz38XSyrhCv

good health / good condition---subjective / relative terms?

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

good health / good condition---subjective / relative terms?

Respectfully, I'd say it's likely a more subjective, relative description coming from a mom than the atty general's office. JMO. On Monday, she was declared to be in "good condition" and authorities were convinced she'd been hidden, harbored, and taken care of due to that good health.

Unfortunately, due to its contradictory nature, I'm afraid this family statement might just be construed as an unsubstantiated attempt to gain sympathy from an irritated public. :/ I hope the AG and family can eventually agree on what is actually going on.

 

[inthedark14]

good health / good condition---subjective / relative terms?

Agreed. Does good heath mean doesn't require hospitalization or surgery? Does good health mean that she has no broken bones and can walk and talk?

Everything in this case since the beginning has been a mystery wrapped in an enigma.

AH's family has made a public statement and have stated that AH is at home, healing and recovering. That is enough for me at this point. This girl, this 15-year-old girl has been away from home for nine plus months. Since she has been home the media and even people close to her are clamoring for her to talk to them, for LE to tell them everything that is going on.

I know that everyone posting here wants to know what happened, but I also know why I love being a part of this community. If AH's own community and people she knows won't stop demanding that they be told everything that happened to this young lady, at least we can stand here and support her.

inthedark14 from Chicago, IL lighting a candle for AH and her family tonight...keep being strong H family. You are in the thoughts and prayers of many.

 

[liltexans]

“Abby is very thin and weak,” she said. “We continue to work towards getting her to eat.”

Hernandez, a Conway, N.H., teen, has been working with authorities to help them understand how she disappeared and where she has been, but officials say that she is traumatized and they do not yet have the full story.

“Our biggest challenge is, we’re dealing with incomplete information,” said Kieran Ramsey, assistant special agent in charge of the of Boston Division of the FBI. “The victim in this case is a 15-year-old girl. It’s not as cut and dried as people think that somebody can exactly recount what happened, when, and where.”

Authorities have stopped short of calling the man a suspect, though Ramsey said that investigators do have a “description of his involvement.” They are not releasing any more information about him, Ramsey said, until they locate and talk to him.

“Our biggest concern is, let’s find out who this is and make sure we get an interview with this person,” said Ramsey.

Investigators do not know if the man is from New Hampshire, said Ramsey, nor do they know if Hernandez remained in New Hampshire during her nine-month absence.

“That’s one of the disturbing factors of this,” he said. “This is a 15-year-old girl, 14 at the time, who literally just vanished for nine months. We need to account for that.”

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...family-says/4EIKOIp06mdG8jw8FedtzM/story.html

 

[margarita25]

So, hypothetically speaking (my introduction to every post here, lol), IF Abby went willingly with an older male and wanted to protect his identity if she cared for him, the sketch could be a red herring.

 

[cluciano63]

Actually, her condition could also reflect living on the streets with other teens, jmo.

 

[liltexans]

"Assuming that she's been through some sort of trauma, she's probably having a great deal of trouble just relaxing and feeling safe and secure," said Dr. Laura Slap-Shelton.

Slap-Shelton is a licensed psychologist at Southern Maine Health Care in Biddeford.

She said answers will probably come slowly, even as the criminal investigation tries to find out the identity of the man Abby said picked her up.

Where was she for nine months?

How was she able to return home in seemingly good condition?

"It's going to be a long process for her to really start talking about what happened, which would be my best bet," said Slap-Shelton.

http://m.wmtw.com/news/psychologist-weighs-in-on-hernandez-case/27157220#!bmJmhJ

 

[margarita25]

http://m.wmtw.com/news/psychologist-weighs-in-on-hernandez-case/27157220#!bmJmhJ

Also from this link:

"Assuming that she's been through some sort of trauma, she's probably having a great deal of trouble just relaxing and feeling safe and secure," said Dr. Laura Slap-Shelton."

 

[momrids6]

Since Hernandez’s return, authorities have advised the public to “remain vigilant,” but have not said that there is any threat to public safety.


“If she was taken against her will or enticed away, we have the potential that somebody could do it again,” said Ramsey. “We haven’t substantiated that yet. That’s why we haven’t raised the alarm.”

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...family-says/4EIKOIp06mdG8jw8FedtzM/story.html

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

Actually, her condition could also reflect living on the streets with other teens, jmo.

Normally, yes...but that was why the AG said they thought she'd been harbored and aided by an adult--precisely because she was in "good condition." Clean clothes, fed, given shelter...those were the clues they indicated led them to believe she hadn't disappeared "on her own."

This roller-coastering of 'facts' is wearing me thin. I think I'll just wait until there is resolution to this case by LE...whenever that may be. They've implied she was NOT abducted, but a runaway who was taken care of...then mom and best friends release a statement 5 days later saying their daughter is in poor health, thin (she was to start with), and they're working on getting her to eat solid foods?

And then all the sudden media is interviewing random psychologists who are commenting on her trauma but who know NOTHING yet about where she's been or what she's been doing for the past 9 months?

:/

ETA: I'm glad she's home, truly...but otherwise am feeling frustrated trying to put together the facts in this case.

 

[Fireweed]

So who is lying? One person says that she is in good health. In fact, her condition is so good that there was no way someone was not taking care of her these past months, and another person says she is just now eating solids foods and is very thin and weak.

Didn't the woman who runs the bring Abby home site say that she and her mom "could just sit across the room smiling at each other all day?" Something here is so not adding up. And yes, I have a huge amount of sympathy for anyone weak and thin and half-starving, I am just confused as to which version of Abby's current state is the truth.

 

[Fireweed]

InMotion, ITA. This is getting obnoxious. Are we getting the truth from anyone?

LE has repeatedly said that they know that Abby had help from an adult because she was in "good condition" and so someone must have provided her with what she needed. If she is so sick and thin as to barely being able to eat solid foods, then isn't that assumption perhaps faulty? Like, really, really faulty? If her condition is as the family described, then I am not at all sold on an adult taking care of her these past nine months. Maybe, as someone said, she was just scrounging on the street.

I cannot believe that LE would make a brash assumption based upon her being in good health, when, according to the family, she is in very poor health.

 

[mpnola]

Normally, yes...but that was why the AG said they thought she'd been harbored and aided by an adult--precisely because she was in "good condition." Clean clothes, fed, given shelter...those were the clues they indicated led them to believe she hadn't disappeared "on her own."

This roller-coastering of 'facts' is wearing me thin. I think I'll just wait until there is resolution to this case by LE...whenever that may be. They've implied she was NOT abducted, but a runaway who was taken care of...then mom and best friends release a statement 5 days later saying their daughter is in poor health, thin (she was to start with), and they're working on getting her to eat solid foods?

And then all the sudden media is interviewing random psychologists who are commenting on her trauma but who know NOTHING yet about where she's been or what she's been doing for the past 9 months?

:/

ETA: I'm glad she's home, truly...but otherwise am feeling frustrated trying to put together the facts in this case.

I completely agree. I'm not sure why this case is so shrouded in mystery, but I will probably check-in here and put my brain power elsewhere. Even in a case of seeeeeerious trauma of the 3 Ohio girls, we knew solid details almost immediately! Who they were, how long they were there, where they were taken from, how he got them in the truck... and they were gone for years!! Shawn Hornbeck and Ben Ownby details were released almost immediately, too- both who were minors at the time of abduction AND the time of rescue.

It doesn't mean I support her any less, quite the opposite, I support her as much and more than the past 9 months! I am just waiting for the adults to get their stories and acts together.

 

[cluciano63]

I can't see why LE would point out that she seemed in good health, as if she had been cared for, if in fact she was in such poor condition that she can not eat. And were the clothes falling off of her, or did they still fit? It does not take much of a weight change for a pair of pants to no longer fit, Imo.

I hope she is okay. But honestly, I have never known of such a case as this is turning out to be, i,e so conflicting, etc. Somehow, LE's comment about how no one would be charged for expense, etc makes me think that there is a fair chance she left on her own. Jmo

 

[Fireweed]

Yeah that is right. I was wondering why I found the family's statement to be so perplexing. The attorney general very clearly said that she was fed. Is the attorney general just making stuff up? I am so, so confused.