GUILTY NH - AH, 14, North Conway, 9 October 2013 - # 4

[mac66]

The mother was interviewed on channel 4 in Boston tonight and her English
is perfect. Maybe a faint accent, but nothing that prevented her speaking or
being understood. She sounded American born to me. She didn't give any
real news, but did lead me more in the direction that Abby had met someone
on line. Before I was leaning towards strictly stranger abduction. Just the way Mom responded to questions.

 

[CatFancier]

Here's another thought too: I require my 15 y/o daughter to call me as soon as she gets home from school, so that I know she made it. I don't generally leave my office for close to 4 hours after she gets home, but I know what time she should be there. If I don't hear from her, I call or text her right away. Abby's mom could have been "looking" via phone calls, text messages, etc for her daughter from 3:00 in the afternoon, even if she didn't physically make it home from work until later that evening.

She could have been calling all the friends, BF, Abby's sister, etc well before walking in the door, and had it in her head, "If I don't hear from her by the time I get home, I'm calling the police."

Still doesn't explain LE's extremely enthusiastic response, but may explain why Mom called so soon after getting home from work.

I completely agree with this assessment CMac. I do think something was obvious when she got home though or the house wouldn't have been taped. And they wouldn't have taped it up over missing candy.

We see literally hundreds of runaways who get no attention at all, there has to be something big we do not know.

 

[blefuscu]

Yeah, why so soon? What did she see (or not see, for that matter) when she got home that made her call 911 INSTANTLY, and how did she convince LE just as fast to call in God and everybody to search for her missing teen? Especially if Abby never made it home after school. Something made Mom hit that panic button immediately. They even sealed off the condo!

I've got teenagers. If I got home and they weren't there, and I'd had no texts to say they were going out, I'd freak! Mom was expecting Abby to be home, if there was no evidence she got home, dogs needing to be walked, no note, phone switched off, I'd be on the phone to the police too.

 

[2Hope4]

I have a question!

We can't even mention the Dad here without getting hands smacked, but go look at Erica Parson's thread!!! Her parents haven't officially been named either! Yet page after page about her parents, grandparents, aunts, etc. Why the difference??

 

[CMac2]

I've got teenagers. If I got home and they weren't there, and I'd had no texts to say they were going out, I'd freak! Mom was expecting Abby to be home, if there was no evidence she got home, dogs needing to be walked, no note, phone switched off, I'd be on the phone to the police too.

I'd freak too. Never meant to imply I wouldn't. I'm just saying- along with many others on this thread- that unless something was horribly amiss at home (in addition to the missing teen, that is), I'd look for for her first, and then call LE. Abby's mom clearly did the right thing, because it's been weeks and no one's seen her daughter.

If it was just the fact that Mom called LE so quickly, ok. We've seen that before. Her calling so fast coupled with LE's HUGE and immediate response, makes me wonder what else we're missing.

Similarly to Mom, LE was obviously right in acting so swiftly. As right as they were to do so, however, it isn't normal, which is why many of us are curious about what makes this case different than so many other missing teens? They obviously have something huge that they have decided not to share- which is fine, but doesn't alter the facts- it's just unusual.

 

[2Hope4]

http://nhpr.org/post/lighting-way-abigail-hernandez

Listen to the song at the end. Her friend recorded it. Nicely done.

 

[blefuscu]

I honestly think that the media has been on a tight reign on this case. Seems to be much that isn't being said. I did wonder, and this is just me thinking out loud, about the boyfriends' dad being so outspoken, but then that could just be me thinking.

It's so scary that a teenager could just "disappear". The cases on here where it happens scare me to death.

 

[korncrasy]

Yeah, why so soon? What did she see (or not see, for that matter) when she got home that made her call 911 INSTANTLY, and how did she convince LE just as fast to call in God and everybody to search for her missing teen? Especially if Abby never made it home after school. Something made Mom hit that panic button immediately. They even sealed off the condo!

I keep thinking mom got home at 7 and may have checked the answering machine..If I heard a message from my daughter scared or distressed I would call LE by 7:17 too..Could it be the 6:30 call?maybe AH secretly hit the speed dial for home while struggling&zenya heard the commotion on the answering machine.

 

[CMac2]

I keep thinking mom got home at 7 and may have checked the answering machine..If I heard a message from my daughter scared or distressed I would call LE by 7:17 too..Could it be the 6:30 call?maybe AH secretly hit the speed dial for home while struggling&zenya heard the commotion on the answering machine.

Ok, that thought just scared the bejeezus out of me. How scary would that be? And you're right- if I came home to a message or something like that, I would immediately call LE. With a quickness! That's a way to explain how it's possible Abby didn't make it home, but Mom still hit the panic button as quickly as she did upon arriving home herself.

ETA: Might also explain why LE was so mortified when word of that 6:30 call got out in the press, and why they walked it back so fast. If there's a perp, and he knows he grabbed Abby at, say 3:15 PM or something, he's not going to be happy to learn she was able to use her phone somehow at 6:30.

 

[Cardinal47]

:ditto: Wasn't it reported that ZH arrived home at 7pm and reported AH missing at 7:17pm?

It was never reported what time Zenya returned from work...only what time she called LE. I suspect she had put in a lot of time trying to find Abby before calling LE. To be fair most of us don't want to call LE on our daughter so she must have been frantic by then.

Yeah, why so soon? What did she see (or not see, for that matter) when she got home that made her call 911 INSTANTLY, and how did she convince LE just as fast to call in God and everybody to search for her missing teen? Especially if Abby never made it home after school. Something made Mom hit that panic button immediately. They even sealed off the condo!

I think she had a whole lot of looking, hunting and calling before she called LE.

Are we sure the time Mom came home was reported? I have seen various postings about that.

Nobody has ever given a time of Moms arrival. Many have ASSUMED she got home when she made the LE call. I am sure that is NOT correct.

Well really all we know is when she called the police...... and now that I think of it, it would have been conway police first at the scene and them to call the shot that said get the AG's office out here and state police major crimes.... then from there jane young would have been the one to get the fbi involved so really, zenya could have been home for an hoyr or so trying to find her daughter and then call LE at 7:10 p.m...... but what did conway police find that made them tae this so absolutely seriously since the moment they arrived on scene????

That's the million dollar question right now.

They initially said over and over again that they believed she'd made it home. They said this was because of the K-9 track. I've never heard of anyone stating anything as absolute fact based solely on a K-9's reaction to scent- I know the dogs can be extremely helpful, but I always thought they FOUND something at the home, something that combined with the K-9 track, made them relatively certain she made it home. Then they backtracked on that statement, and said she really didn't make it home.

On the rare occasion LE is willing to release something as fact in this case, just wait a few days- they'll say the opposite later.

I agree- I'd call friends, check with neighbors, drive her normal route home, etc. THEN I'd call police. My kid (knock on wood) has never gone AWOL, even for a short time, and I'd still do those things first. What did Abby's mom see that made her bypass all those things? How did she know??

I don't believe they ever said 'she made it home'. I think it was said that K9 dogs followed her scent to her home. A huge difference!

afaik, we don't know what time mom came home. there hasn't been a link provided with that information.

Never.

 

[Snoods]

She is a John Lennon fan, and she vanished in his birthday. Lots of people head to NYC on a sort of pilgrimage on that day.

Anyway...I just wish (all) LE would be more open with the public until a person is found, and worry about protecting possible clues later. JMO

Wow, I find that very interesting. This is an outside of the box suggestion that is credible to me lease:. Has she ever disappeared before? Is anyone else missing, even an older person? I doubt she would have set off on such a trek by herself and she would have had to have some money.

ETA: Just read that it wasn't a known fact that Abby liked John Lennon but an idea. Still a great idea! But I give it less credence since it's unknown whether Abby liked John Lennon or not.

 

[2Hope4]

It was stated on Nancy Grace that she arrived home at 7 PM!

 

[CMac2]

I don't believe they ever said 'she made it home'. I think it was said that K9 dogs followed her scent to her home. A huge difference!

Yes, they did say she made it home. Multiple times.

The teen was last seen leaving Kennett High School around 2:30 p.m. Wednesday. Police say she made it home but when her mother returned later, Abigail was gone.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_...ers-searching-for-n.h-teen-missing-five-days/

And:

Investigators believe she made it home, but they’re not sure what happened next.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/mom-plea-missing-teen-badly-article-1.1485980#ixzz2j4nHCgNW

These are only 2 of about 20 articles I've seen that all say the exact same thing, during the first week or so of Abby's disappearance.

 

[Cardinal47]

I think we have 'filled in the blanks' wherever we don't know what happened.

We have no idea why LE acted so fast but if you have a frantic mother who has spent the last two hours calling all her friends and acquaintainces and can't find her teenage daughter I think they did the right thing.

From the very beginning I never thought Zenya returned home from work at 7pm. She worked in a nursing home and their workday ends at 3,4 or 5 not 7pm. And I don't think she accepted any overtime that evening since she had been unable to locate her daughter by text or phone. I am sure she drove home quite quickly.

The million dollar question for me is why did LE fire up so quickly. Thats one I shall ponder this evening.

 

[Snoods]

Considering they found two bodies when they were first out searching for her I agree with you!

Whoa, really? That's pretty interesting.

 

[cluciano63]

If there had been signs of an abduction, a message, a struggle, etc...I doubt LE would be even be talking about runaway possibilities. I don't think there were/are any real clues.

 

[AmandaReckonwith]

For those who may not have checked this out, here is a link to the Abigail Hernandez Case Archive:
http://s296.photobucket.com/user/crankycrankerson/library/Abigail%20Hernandez%20%20-NH-#/user/crankycrankerson/library/Abigail%20Hernandez%20%20-NH-?sort=6&page=1&_suid=138301582026104498687597886087

I have been saving (almost) everything I could find about this case. Pics, vids, articles. Updated daily when time allows.

 

[CatFancier]

I have a question!

We can't even mention the Dad here without getting hands smacked, but go look at Erica Parson's thread!!! Her parents haven't officially been named either! Yet page after page about her parents, grandparents, aunts, etc. Why the difference??

All of the players in Erica's case have been interviewed or discussed in detail in MSM. The only discussion about Abby's has been that he's not there. There is not enough to go on with this. If he gives a statement, he will be open for discussion.

Additionally, when negative comments are written about Erica's birth mom, who is not a suspect, they are zapped as well. If you have questions about moderation, please PM a mod rather than address your concerns on the thread.

 

[jellybeanz]

http://nhpr.org/post/lighting-way-abigail-hernandez

Listen to the song at the end. Her friend recorded it. Nicely done.

Thats a beautiful piece of piano.

 

[Cardinal47]

Yes, they did say she made it home. Multiple times.



http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_...ers-searching-for-n.h-teen-missing-five-days/

And:



http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/mom-plea-missing-teen-badly-article-1.1485980#ixzz2j4nHCgNW

These are only 2 of about 20 articles I've seen that all say the exact same thing, during the first week or so of Abby's disappearance.

Well I have had an epiphany on this one. I have read every single article on missing Abby and I thought for sure they had no idea if she arrived home or not?

I feel like I have been walking through the threads...blindfolded. DUH to me.

So now I am thinking something had to be amiss for LE to act so quickly. What could it be?

Why too have they been searching Abbys route home if she made it home safely? That makes no sense.