GUILTY NH - AH, 14, North Conway, 9 October 2013 - # 4

[rizzo0904]

KOS....great minds think alike!

 

[Jmoose]

All of the players in Erica's case have been interviewed or discussed in detail in MSM. The only discussion about Abby's has been that he's not there. There is not enough to go on with this. If he gives a statement, he will be open for discussion.

Additionally, when negative comments are written about Erica's birth mom, who is not a suspect, they are zapped as well. If you have questions about moderation, please PM a mod rather than address your concerns on the thread.

Thanks for being diligent about this, CatFancier-on the Sarah Majoras thread, there were people who tried "sleuthing" her boyfriend, who was confirmed to be way out of town when she died. As a matter of fact, even though LE has concluded that she died accidentally, they are still insinuating that he had something to do with it!

 

[takeitfromme412]

why are we still bashing jdc??? I looked a the posts in question.... if he is contact with a particular detective it is actually the WISE thing to do to pass the info directly to that detective rather than to call the fbi hotline over and over....... i am sure that the detectives working with those closest to abby have provided their cell phone numbers to them so they can stay in constant direct contact..... that is how NH state police detectives do things around here..... i don't know if they are "not as nice" in other states

 

[takeitfromme412]

please remember that those closest to abby are also victims in this case..... i know how it feels to be close to someone who is missing and/or murdered and this kind of thing does not help at all.... its just non-productive

 

[Eileen730]

Thanks for being diligent about this, CatFancier-on the Sarah Majoras thread, there were people who tried "sleuthing" her boyfriend, who was confirmed to be way out of town when she died. As a matter of fact, even though LE has concluded that she died accidentally, they are still insinuating that he had something to do with it!

But that was only because their friend died the same way in the same place
and her BF was not out of town, Just wanted to add my :twocents:
Have to agree it was Hinkey!

 

[white rabbit]

the admin is dmnc, jdc's wife. they've both mentioned their son in context, and both have access as individual posters and administrators on the page. each has been in contact with zh and the admin(s) have spoken on her behalf in the posts. agreed about the discrepancy in script, also explained by two (or more) admin's using the one nic.

JMO, that's the way i've read it so far...

 

[takeitfromme412]

none of us know who could be responsible.... even zenya does not know apparently

 

[amomandherblog]

the admin is dmnc, jdc's wife. they've both mentioned their son in context, and both have access as individual posters and administrators on the page. each has been in contact with zh and the admin(s) have spoken on her behalf in the posts. agreed about the discrepancy in script, also explained by two (or more) admin's using the one nic.

JMO, that's the way i've read it so far...

On the Help Find Abigail facebook page, I'm almost certain that the regular admin's initials are AS (I'm guessing I'm not allowed to use a full name here, altho she is not a minor). There are posts that are duplicates on her personal page and the Abby page. Now, maybe she made someone else an admin who posted the weird thing about IMs....but normally, I do not believe JDC or his wife runs that page.

 

[Lots2Learn]

Stating that something doesn't sound right isn't proclaiming someone is innocent or guilty. It is just stating that is odd.
There are a lot of odd things happening here and they need to addressed

 

[takeitfromme412]

On the Help Find Abigail facebook page, I'm almost certain that the regular admin's initials are AS (I'm guessing I'm not allowed to use a full name here, altho she is not a minor). There are posts that are duplicates on her personal page and the Abby page. Now, maybe she made someone else an admin who posted the weird thing about IMs....but normally, I do not believe JDC or his wife runs that page.

oh i really do think that they do, they are just trying to do what they can to help.... from what i have seen they have been very concerned, want and willing to help and just want abby home.... i just feel it isn't fair for people to speculate or bash them in any way.... their son is abby's boyfriend.....!!!!! and he is 14 yrs old for christ sake!!!!! it upsets me to see them bashed.... they have not been named as suspects in anyway, so why be non-productive and insinuate that one of them made abby go missing......

 

[CMac2]

No one is bashing JDC, but people need to be aware of their behavior in general. That includes admins of FB pages. A page that has generally been a good place to find updates on search efforts, prayer requests, etc. was last night turned into something bizarre by the admin of the page.

CatFancier has stated that the contents of an official "Missing" FB page are allowed to be discussed here as long as what you're discussing was posted by an admin of that page. Is that not what we were discussing here?

It is both untrue and unfair to say people are bashing JDC. I realize we were towing the line and needed the friendly reminder in previous threads about not sleuthing him, but what he, or anyone else posts in the context of being an admin on Abby's Missing page is something we should be allowed to discuss, IMO.

 

[alreetlike]

Here's another thought too: I require my 15 y/o daughter to call me as soon as she gets home from school, so that I know she made it. I don't generally leave my office for close to 4 hours after she gets home, but I know what time she should be there. If I don't hear from her, I call or text her right away. Abby's mom could have been "looking" via phone calls, text messages, etc for her daughter from 3:00 in the afternoon, even if she didn't physically make it home from work until later that evening.

She could have been calling all the friends, BF, Abby's sister, etc well before walking in the door, and had it in her head, "If I don't hear from her by the time I get home, I'm calling the police."

Still doesn't explain LE's extremely enthusiastic response, but may explain why Mom called so soon after getting home from work.

I'm not a mother myself, but I can see many people doing this, thinking they'd rather look like a fool to the cops for acting too soon than have their kid missing.

LE putting up crime scene tape around the family home? Here at WS, when a child goes missing and in the end it's found out that one or both parents (or another family member) had murdered the poor kid, I've seen it a lot where we're griping that LE should have ran a tighter ship & taped off the house to search for clues of a crime. So maybe that's what they did this time? :

I was thinking the exact same thing. So many times in threads on here I find myself and others saying "They waited HOW LONG to report her missing?!" or "Whaaattt? They didn't search the home/cars STRAIGHT AWAY?"

Yet here we're suspicious for the opposite reasons! Damned if you do, damned if you don't, I guess.

I'm not having a pop at anyone here, by the way. Just pondering.

 

[takeitfromme412]

ok, i saw the slip up, where at first they were trying to remain anonymous, but i had a feeling it would come out who they were anyway.... and then the IM (probably really a pm on fb) seems like someone gave them info, that person should have called it in themselves but whatever, i have had people pass info to me because for whatever reason they don't want to call it in and i made the call..... all it says is he is going to have a chat with the detective he is in touch with (state trooper) and pass the info and any other info along directly to him..... soooo my question is.... what is wrong with that????

 

[takeitfromme412]

honestly, i'm really trying to see.... am i missing something???? i'm still working on my morning coffee guys lol.... fill me in.... what do you guys see that i am not seeing???

 

[CMac2]

ok, i saw the slip up, where at first they were trying to remain anonymous, but i had a feeling it would come out who they were anyway.... and then the IM (probably really a pm on fb) seems like someone gave them info, that person should have called it in themselves but whatever, i have had people pass info to me because for whatever reason they don't want to call it in and i made the call..... all it says is he is going to have a chat with the detective he is in touch with (state trooper) and pass the info and any other info along directly to him..... soooo my question is.... what is wrong with that????

Nothing is wrong with it. It is simply unusual. Not criminal, but outside of the norm. The person posting as Admin last night on Abby's Missing page brought a different style to the page. Once we realized who it was, we were quite surprised.

How many cases are you aware of where a person, known to a very young teen girl who's missing in the way this person is known, is also helping to head up the official FB page? It isn't common.

Mentioning that we noticed something different from the norm, something that was broadcast by an Admin on the official Missing FB page (a public forum that SEEKS traffic for its cause) does not equate to bashing.

 

[MaliaMansly]

ok, i saw the slip up, where at first they were trying to remain anonymous, but i had a feeling it would come out who they were anyway.... and then the IM (probably really a pm on fb) seems like someone gave them info, that person should have called it in themselves but whatever, i have had people pass info to me because for whatever reason they don't want to call it in and i made the call..... all it says is he is going to have a chat with the detective he is in touch with (state trooper) and pass the info and any other info along directly to him..... soooo my question is.... what is wrong with that????

JMO, but maybe the problem is that he made the IM seem so important and then he made a big deal about the fact that he was going to WAIT to report it! This is a CHILD who is missing!!! WTH is he waiting to report ANY INFO??? I don't care if he is the Pope, if he has info, a FB page is NOT the page to brag that he has it! REPORT IT immediately as LE has asked be done and keep his mouth (fingers) shut about it! He instead appears to bragging he has info that he isn't going to share until HE is ready! That's just the way I read it though.

 

[CMac2]

JMO, but maybe the problem is that he made the IM seem so important and then he made a big deal about the fact that he was going to WAIT to report it! This is a CHILD who is missing!!! WTH is he waiting to report ANY INFO??? I don't care if he is the Pope, if he has info, a FB page is NOT the page to brag that he has it! REPORT IT immediately as LE has asked be done and keep his mouth (fingers) shut about it! He instead appears to bragging he has info that he isn't going to share until HE is ready! That's just the way I read it though.

This. Yes. It makes the person posting as admin seem more interested in the attention one gets from being part of a high profile case, with the secondary goal being to pass on whatever useful information the page may gather.

 

[bettiepageturner]

Just wondering, but in yalls experience, who most typically runs the missing FB page in terms of victim association? This JDC revelation has brought up some interesting points, but I know with Jessica Heeringa's case there was talk about how unusual it was that a (female) stranger to the family was running it. I'd assume the victim's family is usually too worn out to run it themselves.

As for the different writing style, I've noticed the discrepancy in the replies since the very beginning. It's been more unusual to me when the replies were written without grammatical/spelling errors. There used to be a poster there writing very helpful reminders on not disrupting potential evidence on personal searches and the admin would just kind of halfheartedly reply "hey thanks" rather than reposting it for more attention, generating similar advice themselves, etc. Always struck me as an unusual and repetitive page admin style, and that's not a suggestion about any unnamed players.

In any case, it's certainly weird that they'd delete inquiries as to their identities and pledge anonymity for their own safety, then turn around and do this.

 

[MaliaMansly]

Just wondering, but in yalls experience, who most typically runs the missing FB page in terms of victim association? This JDC revelation has brought up some interesting points, but I know with Jessica Heeringa's case there was talk about how unusual it was that a (female) stranger to the family was running it. I'd assume the victim's family is usually too worn out to run it themselves.

As for the different writing style, I've noticed the discrepancy in the replies since the very beginning. It's been more unusual to me when the replies were written without grammatical/spelling errors. There used to be a poster there writing very helpful reminders on not disrupting potential evidence on personal searches and the admin would just kind of halfheartedly reply "hey thanks" rather than reposting it for more attention, generating similar advice themselves, etc. Always struck me as an unusual and repetitive page admin style, and that's not a suggestion about any unnamed players.

In any case, it's certainly weird that they'd delete inquiries as to their identities and pledge anonymity for their own safety, then turn around and do this.

TBH, I've seen a range from close family friends to strangers whom the case really touches to strangers who have bad intentions ($$$) run FB pages for missing persons. Seems like with every missing person, umpteen FB pages appear. Usually they get weeded out and the most sincere one triumphs.

I honestly can't say though that I've ever seen an admin of a missing person's page brag about having info and state they were waiting to report it. This is a first for that one.

 

[rachaellouise]

I've never seen someone with such little personal association with the victim (i.e boyfriends father) insert themselves into a case so much.. not sure what to make of it. JMO