GUILTY NH - AH, 14, North Conway, 9 October 2013 - # 5

[Crickets]

She didn't mention anything new at all. And she messed up details about how she went missing. Oh, she also called her a cheerleader. Other than showing her name and photo, it was pointless unfortunately.

Yeah, she needs to hire new fact-checkers. That segment makes me question everything she has ever stated as fact on her show about every other case. Based on what she just said about Abby, about 50% of what she says on her show is probably not accurate.

 

[Gardenlady]

To all those following missing persons cases in Massachusetts, as has been mentioned on this thread, a hiker came across remains near the Brockton/Bridgewater line today. A new WSer posted the news on the Debbie Melo thread. She disappeared nearby in June 2000. Just thought you might like to know.

I hope if Abigail is deceased, it won't take this long for her to be found

Bodhi, I posted on Debbie Mello's thread, but giving a heads up here for others too - any chance the remains found could be Jennifer Fay, 16, of Brockton, missing since '89? (Thread here: MA MA - Jennifer Fay, 16, Brockton, 16 Nov 1989 *merged* - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community )

 

[Cardinal47]

Yeah, except I think she's getting some of the details wrong (cheerleader? got on the school bus? went missing between the bus stop and her home?) What??? It's not helpful if they're putting out false info! At least they got her name right and put her photo out there for people to see all over the country... :facepalm:

Nancy gets soooo much wrong with these cases.

 

[Plumeria5]

So frustrating that such a big, national show cannot take the time to confirm that the case information they are presenting is correct before going on air.

I thought most news anchors took time to research and know their subject matter but when a reporter gives Nancy old information she always seems to be shocked to hear it and has them repeat what they said. When she was a prosecutor I bet she was much more involved in preparation but now with a family I think she just shows up at airtime.

 

[Cardinal47]

Earlier today someone posted that we should go back to the basics. IMHO the basic situation is Abby went missing from her home town, on her way home from school. Someone at school or someone she was in contact with via her cell phone (or possibly a computer or device used at the school--but wouldn't those be monitored or blocked for personal contact?) Someone she knew and was in contact with knew were Abby was last, wheres she was headed and why she wasn't on the bus. Her BF saw her walking received **one of the last texts** we are told were sent by Abby. Who else was she in contact with that day and the days leading up to it. Someone knows, this is small community and a somewhat small school.

Something happened to Abby and someone or more than one someone in that small community knows exactly what. I think that LE may be holding their cards close because I have no doubt that they have a very clear picture of Abby's digital footprint in the days leading up to her being missing.

ALWAYS MOO

Well evidently even knowing all of those things you mention that LE surely knows by now doesn't solve the crime.

Evidently nothing much was said just kid stuff. Knowing who a person is talking to and what they are saying doesn't help in an abduction.

The only way this info would help is if she would have said somebody's following me or a car passed me twice or something like that.

Reading all her Facebook messages didn't help.

Remember the last press conference where they said...'we got nothing'! This after going through her real life, social life and secret life...nothing.

 

[cluciano63]

NG turns every young girl into a cheerleader. Facts be dam*ed. Not a place to for accuracy, by any means. JMO

I thought she would be interested in the "mystery" of Dad, though.

 

[Mom24]

She didn't mention anything new at all. And she messed up details about how she went missing. Oh, she also called her a cheerleader. Other than showing her name and photo, it was pointless unfortunately.

Where's Walter when you need him. sigh.

 

[Cardinal47]

So frustrating that such a big, national show cannot take the time to confirm that the case information they are presenting is correct before going on air.

We know soooo little about Abby maybe she was a cheerleader in middle school.

Nancy didn't pull that one out of ... ...!

 

[Bodhi]

Yeah, she needs to hire new fact-checkers. That segment makes me question everything she has ever stated as fact on her show about every other case. Based on what she just said about Abby, about 50% of what she says on her show is probably not accurate.

That's why I stopped watching. The initial publicity can be a good thing but the facts are often incorrect or taken out of context. And even more unbearable was the mindnumbing repetitiveness. The reporters, experts, and host provide a lot of hype but very little substance. All IMOO!

 

[Rivernh]

Nancy gets soooo much wrong with these cases.

I have skipped watching her since her rude interview with Elizabeth Smart. IMHO she is only in it for ratings. When I listen to her it reminds me of nails on a chalkboard.
The only positive is it gets Abby's photo out there.

 

[Bodhi]

Bodhi, I posted on Debbie Mello's thread, but giving a heads up here for others too - any chance the remains found could be Jennifer Fay, 16, of Brockton, missing since '89? (Thread here: MA MA - Jennifer Fay, 16, Brockton, 16 Nov 1989 *merged* - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community )

I am not familiar with Jennifer Fay. I will check out that thread. Thanks.

According to the link that MamaJoJo provided to the Brockton Enterprise article, it had not been determined if the bones were human. But the article was last updated at 11 this morning.
http://www.enterprisenews.com/topst...-unidentified-remains-on-Brockton-s-east-side

 

[dlc]

BBM

I can't imagine LE would comment publicly on where RH owns a private home/property, as he is a private citizen and has not been named a POI in the case.

JMO

Really? I can't recall many cases where they _don't_ comment on where a victim's closest relatives live. I mean, right now for example, I know that Bryce Laspisa's parents live in Laguna Niguel, California, and prior to that they lived in Naperville, Illinois. I know where Dylan Redwine's parents live, and Kyron Horman's...and I could go on and on. In fact, I can't recall a case where a parent lived in an "secret" location.

But you may be right.

JMO, etc.

 

[Bodhi]

NG turns every young girl into a cheerleader. Facts be dam*ed. Not a place to for accuracy, by any means. JMO

I thought she would be interested in the "mystery" of Dad, though.

That's funny, cluciano. She does! I guess if I ever want to get a case discussed on NG, I will be sure to say she is a cheerleader.

 

[dlc]

Can't the father state where he lives? I know he doesn't have to, but this seemingly ridiculous secrecy about him is a huge distraction, taking away from the issue of Abigail IMO.

Exactly.

 

[dlc]

i gave it some thought over dinner..... neither are a POI and according to Kieran Ramsey of the FBI both have cooperated fully..... whether they are divorced or not is NOT going to find Abby...... it's clear they do not live together... and according to ZH Abby's dad has 2 residences, one of them SEEMS to be out of state.... sooooo really no need to sleuth..... I don't want to see any of us violate the TOS for WS.....

Do you have a link for this? I don't recall anyone being officially cleared, but maybe I missed it.

Thank you.

 

[Plumeria5]

"Scrubbed in sunshine" also comes to mind.

 

[Donna64]

I watched the Abby segment also tonight. I listened very intently. I am quite sure Nancy said "she got off the bus" not "she got on the bus. If she did say that and if its true what she said, then this changes a few things. Her mother said Abby was supposed to take the bus right? Well, if she got off the bus, disobeying her mother knowingly, then she must of done it for a good reason.

 

[rizzo0904]

I watched the Abby segment also tonight. I listened very intently. I am quite sure Nancy said "she got off the bus" not "she got on the bus. If she did say that and if its true what she said, then this changes a few things. Her mother said Abby was supposed to take the bus right? Well, if she got off the bus, disobeying her mother knowingly, then she must of done it for a good reason.

I didn't think of it that way. I hear "got off the bus" and assume it to mean at home. But maybe it means she got on the bus and then off again before it left school.

 

[dlc]

great post. MOO, but there could be a witsec/parole/custodial situation.

regardless, i agree with most that it's none of our business.

that said, when LE says everyone is cooperating, this particular rabbit doesn't believe it.

someone has a shaky alibi...i've said it before and i'll say it until abigail comes home...where were the 2,000 members of the greater conway community between 3pm and 7pm on october 9th. i went to college with 6x that many and i can remember details of those four years...my hope is that LE doesn't believe it when someone says "well, i was HERE, duh"...because i don't believe they were there...

Thank you!

You're correct; could be any number of reasons. As to whether or not it's anyone's business, well, one can and should ask that question about many things discussed here and elsewhere.

& I think the White Rabbit is on the right trail re: cooperation, or at least full cooperation, of all parties.

JMO of course.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

NG turns every young girl into a cheerleader. Facts be dam*ed. Not a place to for accuracy, by any means. JMO

I thought she would be interested in the "mystery" of Dad, though.

I don't understand how being a "cheerleader" would "sell" Abigail's story since there is no evidence of it? I could see if they had lots of pictures of her in her uniform, or videos of her performing, interviews with fellow cheerleaders, maybe she went to competition in Disney World, dating the quarterback, etc...but they don't have any of that? In Hailey Dunn's case, they had one picture of her in her uniform, and they would always scream that she was a cheerleader. I just don't understand how just saying the missing girl is a "cheerleader" is supposedly compelling enough to the general public on its own.