NH NH/CA - Terry Peder Rasmussen, suspected SK, Allenstown, 1981-2000's - #3

[folieadeuxnola]

The last known whereabouts in Dec 75-76 per his (ex) wife was an apartment in Ingleside, Texax, then by employment in June 78. What I found interesting in an obit of Jun 95 he is listed as Terry P of Texas, question is had TR been in contact with his immediate relatives since Dec 75-76 or up until Jun 78.

Do not understand why they would list Terry P of Texas 20 years later if they had not heard from TR nor knew of his whereabouts after Jun 78.

After NH I believe TR tended to gravitate to areas he was some what familiar with i.e. AZ CA CO ID OR TX WA

There is always a shred of truth in every lie told ...

 

[shebbear]

The last known whereabouts in Dec 75-76 per his (ex) wife was an apartment in Ingleside, Texax, then by employment in June 78. What I found interesting in an obit of Jun 95 he is listed as Terry P of Texas, question is had TR been in contact with his immediate relatives since Dec 75-76 or up until Jun 78.

Do not understand why they would list Terry P of Texas 20 years later if they had not heard from TR nor knew of his whereabouts after Jun 78.

After NH I believe TR tended to gravitate to areas he was some what familiar with i.e. AZ CA CO ID OR TX WA

There is always a shred of truth in every lie told ...

I have seen similar issues before in obituaries, including mentioning as a survivor someone who was already dead. People are under stress at the time of a death, and they are pooling together whatever they can recall.

 

[folieadeuxnola]

We have talked about apartment rental records in NH, what about in CA. We know he talked about a "nurse" in the OC, in which I believe she is the one that picked up D/L from the crash and the other a babysitter. We heard very little from the babysitter other than she took care of 2 children, whether that information was proved to be true or not cannot recall. The nurse if she is still alive and the babysitter could provide a good bit of information. How did the babysitter come in contact with TR to take care of the children.

:thinking: :thinking: :thinking:

OT - Anyone else feeling emotionally distressed that you cannot get into NAMUS :tantrum:

 

[carbuff]

The last known whereabouts in Dec 75-76 per his (ex) wife was an apartment in Ingleside, Texax, then by employment in June 78. What I found interesting in an obit of Jun 95 he is listed as Terry P of Texas, question is had TR been in contact with his immediate relatives since Dec 75-76 or up until Jun 78.

Do not understand why they would list Terry P of Texas 20 years later if they had not heard from TR nor knew of his whereabouts after Jun 78.

After NH I believe TR tended to gravitate to areas he was some what familiar with i.e. AZ CA CO ID OR TX WA

There is always a shred of truth in every lie told ...

They probably assumed that if he had died somewhere, they would have been notified. You don't usually think that a family member you haven't heard from for a while has changed their names multiple times and become a serial killer...

 

[folieadeuxnola]

You don't usually think that a family member you haven't heard from for a while has changed their names multiple times and become a serial killer...

You got that right .....:laughing:

 

[Al Ka]

Al Ka post #715, snp'd for focus

I'm not sure it would help ID the A4 victims, but I think accounting for this time period might help find Denise Beaudin and other possible, as of yet, unknown victims.
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You are correct, that would not ID the A4 victims. For better focus I would split up certain timeframes to periods of relevance which is linked to them and Terry, and where/how to find them based on his locations

* Denise period - Dec 1981 till about 1984 (completely empty timeframe so far)
* A4 period - from June 1978 till about Dec 1979 (Terry met them in this period). Their demise would be between those years up to 1981, but up to 83 can't be excluded yet.
* Mother of middle's child period - they met between June 1975 up to 1978/1979

 

[Al Ka]

The last known whereabouts in Dec 75-76 per his (ex) wife was an apartment in Ingleside, Texax, then by employment in June 78. What I found interesting in an obit of Jun 95 he is listed as Terry P of Texas, question is had TR been in contact with his immediate relatives since Dec 75-76 or up until Jun 78.

Do not understand why they would list Terry P of Texas 20 years later if they had not heard from TR nor knew of his whereabouts after Jun 78.

After NH I believe TR tended to gravitate to areas he was some what familiar with i.e. AZ CA CO ID OR TX WA

There is always a shred of truth in every lie told ...

I don't recall anymore obit from 95, so I am curious as at that point I think he had only 2 family members left... Would you be so kind to PM me link please?

With regards to Terry having contact with family - it was stated officially that since Xmas 75/76 he did not have contact with his wife/children's family.

However there was zero statements about his parents side of family or his siblings or his contact with them. So at this point we can't exclude that he did.

 

[Al Ka]

We have talked about apartment rental records in NH, what about in CA. We know he talked about a "nurse" in the OC, in which I believe she is the one that picked up D/L from the crash and the other a babysitter. We heard very little from the babysitter other than she took care of 2 children, whether that information was proved to be true or not cannot recall. The nurse if she is still alive and the babysitter could provide a good bit of information. How did the babysitter come in contact with TR to take care of the children.

:thinking: :thinking: :thinking:

OT - Anyone else feeling emotionally distressed that you cannot get into NAMUS :tantrum:

whoa, say whaat? Did I miss some entire story?

I don't recal details of crash were every published or that someone did pick up child (Lisa) from there? And nurse was only mentioned by Terry when she no longer was present with him and with reference that Donna, his partner was nurse?

(What does OC stands for?)

 

[Stephen2016]

whoa, say whaat? Did I miss some entire story?

I don't recal details of crash were every published or that someone did pick up child (Lisa) from there? And nurse was only mentioned by Terry when she no longer was present with him and with reference that Donna, his partner was nurse?

(What does OC stands for?)

I've heard this also... If there is a link I'd love to see it.

There was a article that I thought I saw where Dawn / Lisa had a vague recollection of her brother's and sisters. Not what she was told about them but what she remembered. I can't find it and I'm starting to wonder if I actually read it. But her recollection of it was that the sexes and the ages of them were similar or I'd say exact to the victims in allenstown / Bear Brook State Park. So I wondered if they left NH in Dec 1981 or just moved from Hayward Street . Then of course in 1984 / 85 he is working as curtis mayo kimball in california. Dawn / Lisa would of been about 3 or 4 I guess around that time. The property where the barrels were found there was a fire July 4th weekend 1983 . Lisa would of been I guess about 2yrs old or so. I wish if that article existed I could find it . Anyways.. it would be good to know more about certain time periods in this .

 

[Springrain]

The last known whereabouts in Dec 75-76 per his (ex) wife was an apartment in Ingleside, Texax, then by employment in June 78. What I found interesting in an obit of Jun 95 he is listed as Terry P of Texas, question is had TR been in contact with his immediate relatives since Dec 75-76 or up until Jun 78.

Do not understand why they would list Terry P of Texas 20 years later if they had not heard from TR nor knew of his whereabouts after Jun 78.

After NH I believe TR tended to gravitate to areas he was some what familiar with i.e. AZ CA CO ID OR TX WA

There is always a shred of truth in every lie told ...

OK, WA sounds familiar for Terry but I can't remember when he was there...can you remind me?

 

[folieadeuxnola]

OK, WA sounds familiar for Terry but I can't remember when he was there...can you remind me?

It was one of the possible states he may have been in, nothing has ever been specifically stated for fact that TR had been there or not. In all I guess its my opinion that TR at some point traveled through there in the least, he loved the East Coast and we sure do not know where he went for lengthy periods of time. He did mention Oregon on a few occassions

 

[folieadeuxnola]

whoa, say whaat? Did I miss some entire story?

I don't recal details of crash were every published or that someone did pick up child (Lisa) from there? And nurse was only mentioned by Terry when she no longer was present with him and with reference that Donna, his partner was nurse?

(What does OC stands for?)

It's back in Thread # 2

 

[Al Ka]

OK, WA sounds familiar for Terry but I can't remember when he was there...can you remind me?

It was in one of newest articles I think from last year. They have mentioned that Terry went to WA to pick berries sometimes in 80s. They did mention small city too and that he was also familiar with market there.

Also, when he was arrested in 2002 in Ca he had called his psychologist who was based in WA. They did mention city too. So he definitely has some ties there.

 

[Al Ka]

whoa, say whaat? Did I miss some entire story?

I don't recal details of crash were every published or that someone did pick up child (Lisa) from there? And nurse was only mentioned by Terry when she no longer was present with him and with reference that Donna, his partner was nurse?

(What does OC stands for?)

It's back in Thread # 2

Ok, refresher on Donna, nurse from thread 2
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1985-Donna LaPorte, wife (listed as an alternative name for Denise LaPorte)
Alias used: Curtis Mayo Kimball, location: Orange County, CA
Notes: a 1986 newpaper article referring his 1985 arrest mentions her as Evans wife who is a nurse in Orange county

Donna Walter (listed as an alternative name for Donna LaPorte)

1986-Denise LaPorte, wife
alias used: by the year, probably Gordon Curtis Jenson/Jensen, location: found in an autobiography authorities optained in Scotts Valley, Santa Cruz County, CA.
Notes: Mentions he met her in Quebec, Canada, and married her in Roanoke, Virginia. He claimed she died in TX (Corpus Christi, or Houston).
the last three are likely the same person.

A 1988 article mentions her as: Donna Jenson, AKA Denise/Donna La Port nee: La Port and mentions Evans as Gordon Curtis Jenson, AKA Curtis Mayo Jenson.

(post #860 https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...lenstown-1981-2000-s-2/page58&highlight=Donna)
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So Curtis Mayo Kimball while working from March 1984 to May 1985 in Los Alamitos, he lived in Anaheim with female and children. In was stated also in Anaheim PD release, however it was never mentioned by them how many or their ages.

Anaheim PD release (it is not stated in article, only in video) - http://abc7.com/news/suspected-serial-killer-spent-time-in-anaheim-more-victims-feared/1754816/

Age of that other child (not Lisa) came from our verified insider (person is verified for reason) as 6 month old.

It is from a witness that babysat Lisa along with the 6 month old.

(post 898 https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...lenstown-1981-2000-s-2/page60&highlight=Donna)
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To add to Denise's period - Dec 1981 - Feb 1984
- ID from real Curtis Kimball stolen while working in LaPorte TX early 1980s. Real Kimball lived near Atlanta, GA. (post #877 - https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...lenstown-1981-2000-s-2/page59&highlight=Donna)
- ID from real Mockerman stolen outside of Atlanta GA in the early 1980s (post #911 - https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...lenstown-1981-2000-s-2/page61&highlight=Donna

More about stolen IDs - post #1759 https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...&p=13577768&highlight=greensboro#post13577768

Still searching more for crash info that Lisa was taken care of by Donna

 

[folieadeuxnola]

It was in one of newest articles I think from last year. They have mentioned that Terry went to WA to pick berries sometimes in 80s. They did mention small city too and that he was also familiar with market there.

Also, when he was arrested in 2002 in Ca he had called his psychologist who was based in WA. They did mention city too. So he definitely has some ties there.

It was Eugene Oregon that TR called his psychologist, TR made statements that he was familiar with Dexter, OR and the Dexter Market. TR had also mentioned a cabin in Oregon believe this was during his time he was being questioned by LE on the whereabouts of Eusoon. TR also claimed to have traveled to Oregon somewhere between 86-89 to pick berries.

 

[Alleykins]

I wonder if TR was ever stationed in WA while in the Navy. Big navy base there.

 

[Al Ka]

It was Eugene Oregon that TR called his psychologist, TR made statements that he was familiar with Dexter, OR and the Dexter Market. TR had also mentioned a cabin in Oregon believe this was during his time he was being questioned by LE on the whereabouts of Eusoon. TR also claimed to have traveled to Oregon somewhere between 86-89 to pick berries.

ThankYou for correction! I did mix up Oregon with Washington.

 

[folieadeuxnola]

ThankYou for correction! I did mix up Oregon with Washington.

No worries Al Ka, there is so much information out there that sometimes states and places tend to collide.

 

[Stephen2016]

Just wondering is it at all possible that Lisa's / Dawn's siblings could be the allenstown victims ? Or is there something that definitely makes that impossible . Rather than say they died from blunt force trauma it' less drastic to say they died because they ate poison mushrooms and grass while camping. But in my opinion this would only be a possibility if they stayed in NH when they left Hayward street. Would be interesting to know if when they left Hayward street if they took the furniture with them. ..Apparently they moved out in less than a week from when they were last seen and never said a word about moving.

 

[Alleykins]

This was posted before, but this is the Boston Globe article about Finding Lisa (Dawn Beaudin).
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...ly-new-life/vCCxbYYUD63kjIoIMJQiWM/story.html