NH NH/CA - Terry Peder Rasmussen, suspected SK, Allenstown, 1981-2000's - #4

[Alleykins]

Folie, I had exact same thoughts and posted about it in May in the other thread and yes, it has me baffled too. Yes, he is revisiting many of the places he lived before. Here is copy of my post and highlighting in red one and only area which I pretty much did not concentrate on at the time but is now quite important - his home town, area he grew up at in Arizona:

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Sorry for overposting but I also have to mention something I noticed few weeks ago and I have not seen mentioned it here before.

I finally checked the map as I am not familiar with mentioned places and I have noticed certain pattern in Terry's travels. He often comebacks years later to the areas he lived before and lives there again for some time. I have not noticed that before, as area 1 mile away from his previous place would have different name so without looking at map most of us not local would not know.

To make it more clear, I will name areas A, B and C

Area A - Near San Francisco - Redwood City, CA; Palo Alto, CA - lived there in 1970 with his first family/wife and his son is borned there

Area B - Ingleside, TX - lived there Dec 1975 or 1976

Area C - Near Los Angeles - where he met and lived with Marlyse sometimes in 2nd half of 78 (area La Puente, CA, Hawaiian Gardens, CA)

Now, look at his travel after 1981 in NH.

Verified insider said that they suspect that he stayed in Tx area (Area B) for some time in his unknown years between end of 1981 and March 1984, on his journey from NH east coast to west coast. That would mean he is back in the that same approximate area where he lived with middle child and child's mum just around 4 or 5 years earlier, but now comes to the area with Denise and Lisa (probably under alias we are not yet aware off).

March 84 - May 85 - he moves back to the area C - Los Angeles area - Los Alamitos, CA. This has my head really scratching. So after 6 years he comes back with baby Lisa and probably Denise or someone else to the area where Marlyse lived for very long time, where he met her, where her mum lives, where her first ex still lived and also 2nd ex husband who likely knew Terry too. He comes back after her and both children MURDER to that same area he took them from, and on top of it now using new name. I know it is quite populated area but still, would you call it risky or arrogant?

Than after car crash he goes back with Lisa in Jan 1986 right back in the area A - Near San Francisco- RV Park in Scotts Valley. Right next to place where he used to live with his first family and children in 1970. Using new name.

Murder of Eunsoon in 2001 in Richmond - that is also Area A, right next to San Francisco too. Using new name.

I have left out area of Phoenix Arizona as I am not concentrating on that area at the moment, but he actually came back to live there 3 times (lived there with his bio family, came back to live there from Hawaii with his 1st wife and came back to live there from Ca in 1973, again with the first wife)

Last thought - after he left Area C - near Los Angeles - with Marlyse sometimes after Dec 78 but before Dec 79 and was moving to east coast it is fair to say he probably stopped on the way with her and her children in Area B (Ingleside, Tx) again - where I assume middle child would still be with someone at this point. I wonder if he picked her up than or came back year or two later from NH and went back to NH again with her.

With not much sleep, please feel free to let me know if my thoughts are completely out there, far reaching or if they are making some sense.

NH - NH - Allenstown, Adult Female & 3 Children, found Nov'85 & May'00 #2

That's a pretty good summation. I was at a loss to keep the CA locations straight, too, not being from there.

 

[Al Ka]

Places that could be all apart of TPR's ficticious storyline, however both were within areas TPR had once lived;

1980 Arrest Records
San Pedro, CA (Los Angeles)
Pal Alto, CA (Close to Redwood City, San Francisco)

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Wow Folie, you digging staff out like Sherlock Holmes . Thank you for finding this, I have not seen it before.

Very interesting he did not hide at that time yet that he lived previously in California. I don't recall him being arrested in California yet for anything at that point though. Few arrests he had prior to 1980 were all in Arizona.

It is also interesting as it confirms for a fact that by 6 June 1980 he STILL works at Waumbec Mills as he was picked up by police there.

Did you see funny detail? In February arrest he states he is 34 and in June he is suddenly 37 . His real biological age.

 

[folieadeuxnola]

Wow Folie, you digging staff out like Sherlock Holmes . Thank you for finding this, I have not seen it before.

Very interesting he did not hide at that time yet that he lived previously in California. I don't recall him being arrested in California yet for anything at that point though. Few arrests he had prior to 1980 were all in Arizona.

It is also interesting as it confirms for a fact that by 6 June 1980 he STILL works at Waumbec Mills as he was picked up by police there.

Did you see funny detail? In February arrest he states he is 34 and in June he is suddenly 37 . His real biological age.

Alka it is in the NHDOJ site just to clarify these were the arrests in NH the places named in CA were his place of birth or what he stated was his place of birth. In all we know that was not correct however he lied often and in the grand scheme of things there is some since of truth in every lie TPR told.

Yes I for some reason thought the arrest was in May however that was when the warrant for arrest or the infraction was issued he was not arrested until June.

The birth dates are interesting as well as Alleykins stated he tend to forget what he said from the time before.

 

[folieadeuxnola]

Just throwing this out there anyone know if RM's ex-wife is still alive ? Find it so strange that TPR would use the name Donna Walters in his 1985 arrest it was so similar to RM's ex-wife name. I find it interesting that right about the time of RM's divorce from the 2nd wife Aug 80 is within the estimated time frame A4 were killed. Have often wonder if RM was trying to rekindle or either become more active in Sara's life at this time. Would that have set TPR off ?

TPR tended to utilize names or places he had encountered or visited with his factitious stories. In some sense of it TPR was actually giving clues through his stories... and were the Alice in Wonderland trying to figure it out.

 

[AliceInPain]

Did anyone look into this?
Orange County has a database of UIDs and missing but noone fits.
I've been looking at ancestry forums and older missing people forums, found two that were of interest and sent it in but never heard back.
Are they even working on this anymore?

 

[Alleykins]

Did anyone look into this?
Orange County has a database of UIDs and missing but noone fits.
I've been looking at ancestry forums and older missing people forums, found two that were of interest and sent it in but never heard back.
Are they even working on this anymore?

Those potential missing women may not have stayed missing and escaped his clutches, unscathed, or they could have come from anywhere, like DB.

 

[Keishi]

Headley mentioned in the 20/20 special, 1:20 mark, 1985 in the Anaheim area as a likely location for additional victims.
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Also, verified insider user forthevictims on Apr 19 2017, stated,

“Only can say between 81 after he left NH and 84 when he showed up in SoCal.(real CMK ID stolen while working in LaPorte TX early 1980s) More than likely plenty enough time to groom another victim as when he showed up and was working in SoCal he already had another 6 month old girl with him along with Lisa.

So most likely areas for more victims-TX. SoCal-witness that he was dating a woman-see Anaheim PD press release. Suspected serial killer spent time in Anaheim, more victims feared And 1990 to 2002 Contra Costa County.”



Terry Rasmussen was also seen wearing a Disneyland T-shirt in New Hampshire with Denise Beaudin prior to this so it’s possible he knew this woman or others in the Anaheim, Orange County, California area (where Disneyland is located) earlier.

From folieadeuxnola’s timeline:

“1981
• (Summer 1981) – New Hampshire, Hillsborough, Manchester - Photograph taken at Party on Leda Avenue; Note: TR is wearing Disneyland Ragland T-Shirt“

 

[folieadeuxnola]

Those potential missing women may not have stayed missing and escaped his clutches, unscathed, or they could have come from anywhere, like DB.

Escaped or dumped in a relationship is possible. Women whom he could not develop a deeper relationship esp one with too many ties to family and friends. One that would keep in steady contact with family and would not leave at a drop of a hat if decided.

All thou so far with TPR's current track record most of his victims did not escape.

I circle back around to the babysitter ... she knew TPR and survived. Have not read anymore than she had been a babysitter for D/L and a 6mth old... But I'm sure she probably may have had additional information that has never been made public.

Was it a one time job or did she babysit on a few occasions. How did she come in contact with TPR to babysit .. want ad, neighbor, friend of a friend ? IMO their is some vital information with the babysitter.

 

[folieadeuxnola]

Did anyone look into this?
Orange County has a database of UIDs and missing but noone fits.
I've been looking at ancestry forums and older missing people forums, found two that were of interest and sent it in but never heard back.
Are they even working on this anymore?

@forthevictims

 

[AliceInPain]

@forthevictims

Thanks, and sorted.

Here are two boards to look at.
Long Lost Family Bulletin Board - Your family.com
The Seeker, Reuniting The World!

Not easily found on google but thousands of posts.
Come join me searching whenever
Anyone with links to other discontinued (or current) boards please post.

Also, any FB people, please join lost family / missing family / missing people groups on FB.

 

[folieadeuxnola]

Its crazy how many were looking for TPR, Marlyse and children on these message boards but never connected.

 

[Alleykins]

Its crazy how many were looking for TPR, Marlyse and children on these message boards but never connected.

IKR? One post was mere months before the 2nd barrel was found.
(from the ancestry forum).

 

[Alleykins]

Also, like I posited on an earlier thread, because so many families were most likely involved (and turns out there were), each had a different piece of the puzzle to add. The major missing pieces now, in regards to the A4 case, are the MC's family. There were three different families looking for Marlyse & her girls, because if they found one of them, it might lead them to the others. However, this doesn't appear to be the case for the MC, which leads me to believe no one searching for the other 3 victims knew about her. I don't recall anything mentioned about Marlyse's family knowing of her when they spoke to Marlyse's family and found out they knew TPR. (If they did, I will stand corrected).

 

[AliceInPain]

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[AliceInPain]

Congratulations.
Bravo.

 

[AliceInPain]

I posted before.Why would you not?
Honest question.

 

[forthevictims]

Investigation Discovery will be airing a 2 part show on this case with more information before the year is over. Hopefully it will generate leads on other victims. When the release dates are firmed up I'll post it here.

 

[carolann0308]

"when he showed up and was working in SoCal he already had another 6 month old girl with him along with Lisa"

I don't remember reading about a 2nd child being in California when he abandoned Lisa

 

[Alleykins]

"when he showed up and was working in SoCal he already had another 6 month old girl with him along with Lisa"

I don't remember reading about a 2nd child being in California when he abandoned Lisa

I don't think he had an infant with him when he abandoned D/L in the campground/trailer park. I believe the report of the 6 month old was from a babysitter, who recalled watching her and a baby, prior to her being abandoned.

 

[Keishi]

On the Navajo Nation and Black Mesa Mine announcement: Has anyone noticed that Peabody Energy is based in St. Louis, Missouri? This is the coal company that had a very favorable mining contract with the Navajo in the Black Mesa area. To my knowledge, it hasnt been announced what company he may have worked for.

St Louis was a location Rasmussen claimed to have worked for an energy company but it could not be verified.

I wonder if New Hampshire State Police have found info that he may have been in Missouri. I’m just thinking out loud. I have nothing new to add on this but someone else might.