NH NH - Maura Murray, 21, Haverhill, 9 Feb 2004 - # 5

[Peabody]

On this day when so many of the world celebrate everlasting life,

I pray a special prayer that Maura is well and for the comfort of all who love her.

Her future mother-in-law signs all of her emails with the following scripture:

"Our help is from the Lord, who created heaven and earth." Psalm 24:8




With God's help, there will be answers for Maura and her loved ones.

 

[Peabody]

On this day when so many of the world celebrate everlasting life,

I pray a special prayer that Maura is well and for the comfort of all who love her.

Her future mother-in-law signs all of her emails with the following scripture:

"Our help is from the Lord, who created heaven and earth." Psalm 24:8




With God's help, there will be answers for Maura and her loved ones.

 

[CW]

Continue on..

 

[Gabby]

Prayers for Maura and the ones who have never given up the search for her

 

[nnglas]

Wow!! What happened to everyone? Any new info or investigative options?

 

[wondering22]

I went and searched briefly, and here is the latest news article I could locate containing her name:


WorldNetDaily: Serial killer behind 'disappearing' women?

9 evening at about 7:20 pm, Maura Murray, a 21-year old University of ... The still unsolved disappearances of Brianna Maitland and Maura Murray have caused ...

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49328

 

[nnglas]

I have always thought that maybe she just walked off. I am not so sure now. But I don't think it was a serial killer. I will say this much, this is a very strange case indeed. But I really think it is important to keep talking about it and looking at all the angles.

 

[wondering22]

Hi, again!

Maura Murray has also been mentioned in another active thread entitled, New England Missing and Murdered:


http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1079270



And also mentioned in Missing Young Women in NH:


http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21997

 

[wondering22]

I have always thought that maybe she just walked off. I am not so sure now. But I don't think it was a serial killer. I will say this much, this is a very strange case indeed. But I really think it is important to keep talking about it and looking at all the angles.

Yes, it is a strange case, indeed. Like you, I had the impression she walked away, and like you, I no longer am so convinced of that.

And, too, I have NO idea if any serial killer is involved, but it sure does seem like we have an outright epidemic of Missing Young Women throughout the United States.

It is very disconcerting. There's way too many.

 

[nnglas]

Yes, there does seem to be an epidemic with young women missing. Very scary indeed.


I have always been interested in this case. But a couple of weeks ago, my car broke down (ran out of gas) at around 2am. It just bought everything back to my mind.

I could still see her behavior before the 2nd accident as suspect, but, I also have some serious questions about one of the police officers in the case.

 

[gatetrekker44]

thread awhile back( which came about as a direct result of Maura's disappearance) one of the speculations on the thread was about possible involvement of some elements of LE-because of prior misdeeds of LE in NH as well as a general "feel" that some type of a cover-up might have taken place.
I still have grave doubts about the thoroughness of the investigation of Maura's disappearance-not the least of which started when LE was soooo
quick to label her as "voluntarily missing" and then their apparent reversal after public questioning of this as well as Fred Murray and Sharon Rausch's tireless efforts to keep Maura's name in the media hoping some answers would be forthcoming.
I also had a current member of LE in a large city in the northeast US look at the info about the missing and murdered women in NH-and that person thought there were way too many based on current population info and that there was a real possibility there might be a serial killer operating in the area of Maura's disappearance.
If you haven't seen it-please see Boxerz' "map" of the missing and murdered in NH-it is quite eye-opening!

 

[nnglas]

I have a question about this case maybe someone who is close to the family would know the answer.


The police officer, if I am not mistaken, Cecil Smith. Did he ever explain why he originally told the Murray family that he didn't know that a young girl was driving the car. Or am I getting that detail mixed up? Because I seem to remember that he looked for her with the SBD that night. Or maybe he didn't tell the family that. Can anyone verify this information, and if he did do that, anybody have any theories why he did that?

 

[Masterj]

I have a question about this case maybe someone who is close to the family would know the answer.


The police officer, if I am not mistaken, Cecil Smith. Did he ever explain why he originally told the Murray family that he didn't know that a young girl was driving the car. Or am I getting that detail mixed up? Because I seem to remember that he looked for her with the SBD that night. Or maybe he didn't tell the family that. Can anyone verify this information, and if he did do that, anybody have any theories why he did that?

Unfortunately, I think you are correct. Although he spent time that night searching for Maura, he never called Fred Murray (owner of the car). He later claimed he didn't know a young girl was driving it. I don't know if he had a motive behind lying or was just lazy in regard to his job responsibilities.

 

[murraydwyer]

Maura's dad, the registered owner of the car, was not contacted until late Tuesday afternoon.

As reported by Sharon Rausch from a journal she kept at the time of Maura's disappearance:

2/10/04 3:20 p.m -Fred receives a voice message on his home phone about his car being found abandoned near
Woodsville NH on the evening of February 9th. Fred’s answering machine notes the time of day as 3:20 PM EST. Fred is at work on a contracted job in another state and does not get the message until later.

NOTES:

At approximately 5:00 or 5:30 PM Fred Murray receives a call from his daughter Kathleen. The Haverhill Police have reached her brother, Freddie Murray’s residence (Freddie resides with his mother Laurie Murray, younger brother and Maura when she is not at school.) The police reported to Freddie that they found an abandoned car owned by Frederick Murray. Freddie told them that was his sister’s car and they had to search for her. The policeman that talked to Freddie said that if she was missing, he would have to contact their local police department. When Freddie called the local police department he was told that he would have to call the University of Massachusetts at Amherst Police Department, Maura’s current residence. . Fred Murray, the father called Haverhill Police Department and begged them to start looking for Maura.

There are two different household telephone numbers listed in Maura's dad's name...

 

[gatetrekker44]

was that Cecil Smith was not truthful about knowing that a young woman was driving(he knew from Atwood the description of the driver)-the fact that he was driving an SUV that was later rather abruptly sold by LE-and I have NEVER seen or heard a satisfactory explanation as to why that was...

 

[hydemi]

there is some discussion on the Maura site now which echoes the new posts above about who lied--Cecil Smith, Atwood, the construction worker.

My two cents is that busdriver Atwood's lies were more self inflating and self protecting of his image, not to mention self defensive as he surely knew or thought that he was on the hook as the "last person" to see or to have any interaction with Maura before she disappeared. So he makes up a claim about having been a police officer in Taunton to boost his image when in fact he should have kept her car in view or gone to the Westmans the nearest neighbor, and later he says he "ran" into the house (all 350 lbs) to call for help when the Case Info timeline shows a gap of fourteen minutes between his call at 7.43pm and Westman's at 7.29pm.

Cecil Smith's lie to Sharon Rausch about not knowing the abandoned car was driven by a young female is clearly (it seems) designed to avoid responsibility for there having been no real or immediate search within the first 24-48 hours other than a little driving around the area by himself and Atwood. Whatever report he filed sat on someone's desk at the Haverhill police department on Tuesday 2/10/04 before calls were made to Mr Murray.

The CW (construction worker) lies are surely more important as to what really happened to Maura if in fact he saw her or passed her either at the scene or four miles east as his story claims. I and others have enumerated many scenarios as to his interaction with or observation of Maura. It has always been extremely suggestive to me that Lt Scarinza of NHSP dropped all reference to the CW sighting of her in the June 2004 summary of her case which he offered at the joint press conference held at Vermont State Police barracks on the two cases of Maura and of Brianna Maitland--whereas in May he had hailed the CW story as a breakthrough and the first real lead in the case. It seems he was less sure of the CW story a month later, and of course we have no idea of how the police have followed up with or investigated the CW's story except that it remains the last "lead" however questionable.

 

[Masterj]

Great summary hydemi.

 

[Bobbisangel]

I wonder if this case will ever be solved. It makes it so hard when LE screws up so badly in the beginning. It is obvious that Maura didn't just get out of her car and walk to the ends of the earth :banghead:

I feel so bad for her family and everything that they have had to go through. Not only have they lost their daughter but they've had no help from LE. I don't doubt that there are cops that are involved with picking up young girls and doing things that they shouldn't. Heck, some cop could have stopped and picked Maura up. She probably would have gotten in a car with a cop thinking that he was going to help her. She was such a beautiful girl. Everytime I look at her picture I think how pretty she was and what a bright future she had ahead of her. Someone ended that future and I just hope and pray that she is found and her killer is caught and punished.

 

[nnglas]

Ok, guys. I couldn't wait to get off work to tell you who I talked to today. A little background....... I work customer service for a big online shopping website. SO... I am one the phone this afternoon, and this lady calls because she is making a return, and needs the information to send the item back. So she goes on and on about how busy she is because she is in this television series that is just starting, and she says "oh let me plug my show" and she says something about this haunting show on ctv. I didn't really think much of it, so I asked her for her order number and when I pulled up the account, I read the name and I kept telling her it sounded familiar. Then I starting thinking about all the court tv stuff and I asked her "are you a psychic?" and she said yeah! Have your heard of me? It was Carla Baron!!!! I asked her if she had helped with the Maura Murray case, and she started talking about Fred Murray and a couple of other things. So you guys I tried to pump her for any inside information, and I think she gave me a little. And not pyschic predictions, real stuff. Anyway, I was wondering what kind of psychic is she. I know I can remember her name being mentioned a few times. But I am not sure how well she does. Anybody got any idea? She did give me her psychic theory about what happenned to Maura, but she gave me some factual things too. Not a lot but just a few interesting tidbits. She told me she worked on the Brianna Maitland case too. Im not sure if I can say what she said. But her psychic theory I guess would be ok. Anyway let me know what kind of psychic she is?

 

[Kelly]

Ok, guys. I couldn't wait to get off work to tell you who I talked to today. A little background....... I work customer service for a big online shopping website. SO... I am one the phone this afternoon, and this lady calls because she is making a return, and needs the information to send the item back. So she goes on and on about how busy she is because she is in this television series that is just starting, and she says "oh let me plug my show" and she says something about this haunting show on ctv. I didn't really think much of it, so I asked her for her order number and when I pulled up the account, I read the name and I kept telling her it sounded familiar. Then I starting thinking about all the court tv stuff and I asked her "are you a psychic?" and she said yeah! Have your heard of me? It was Carla Baron!!!! I asked her if she had helped with the Maura Murray case, and she started talking about Fred Murray and a couple of other things. So you guys I tried to pump her for any inside information, and I think she gave me a little. And not pyschic predictions, real stuff. Anyway, I was wondering what kind of psychic is she. I know I can remember her name being mentioned a few times. But I am not sure how well she does. Anybody got any idea? She did give me her psychic theory about what happenned to Maura, but she gave me some factual things too. Not a lot but just a few interesting tidbits. She told me she worked on the Brianna Maitland case too. Im not sure if I can say what she said. But her psychic theory I guess would be ok. Anyway let me know what kind of psychic she is?

She is a full of herself and nonsense "psychic". Don't be fooled.
http://www.iigwest.com/carla_report.html