NH NH - Maura Murray, 21, Haverhill, 9 Feb 2004 - # 9

[scoops]

If Maura did strike vasi with her car: in my opinion it would explain

Why fred shows up to amherst less than 48 hours later (school was cancelled that friday due to a winter storm) fred is on scene Saturday (possible damage control in dealing with a terrified and depressed daughter and having to deal with her car).


Why maura (I admit I don't have her driving record, but I bet she wasn't a regular car crasher) would all of a sudden become a demolition derby driver in the span of 48 hours (emotionallly broken from hitting someone not even knowing at that point likely if the guy survived or not)

I think father does his best to calm daughter down that weekend, and may even leave (for work) that sunday thinking that they are going to work through this mess.

Come to find out, it wasn't enough. Maura is still depressed and in a don't give a hoot mood come Monday when she leaves without telling any of her family.

I think based on her bank account withdrawl and the specific items she packed, that maura was headed for a motel/hotel that monday (explains whey she left so late in the day and got towards the white mountains at dark).

I think she wakes up tuesday morning (if she didn't have that second wreck) parks her car near a trail (campground parking area for example so it can be found), leaves a note for family (she wrote at the hotel monday night) inside the car, locks car up and heads towards the mountains, spends her last moments one earth in daylight in the white mountains.

It is just a theory, and no more valid than anyone else'es

 

[Skigirl]

I think what Renner is doing is pretty simple: Posting any and all theories without really much evidence or grounding in fact for most of them because it drives traffic to his website and it makes a market for his book. Although I think he really is curious/does want to know what happened to Maura, I think he'd pretty much publish any outlandish thing he could imagine -- and then post something else about why it's wrong -- if he thought it would sell another copy.

 

[MysteryMaven]

I feel like ppl on this discussion have a lot of compassion for missing people and their families. It's nice to see! I can't say the same for other places online. Always good discussion and debate going on too.
McSpy summed up what I was thinking very succinctly, that James Renner just has it out for Fred Murray because Fred spurned him.

 

[hannah1988]

Thinking about Maura today. Hope she is found soon.

Maura is the first case that I started following, and I really don't like how it feels like you need to pick a side in the debate (cough cough, Renner or Fred). The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle of their stories.

Let's remember the real reason that we're here: To find Maura.

 

[scoops]

If anyone still has some questions about that thursday night maura had her meltdown at work and had to be escorted back to her dorm ... then now would be the time to ask away.

Maura's supervisor has graciously taken time away from her busy schedule to answer questions about that night and about maura.

I hope to wrap up my questions with her sometime this week, but would like to make sure I cover all bases.

Clint

 

[McSpy]

If anyone still has some questions about that thursday night maura had her meltdown at work and had to be escorted back to her dorm ... then now would be the time to ask away.

Maura's supervisor has graciously taken time away from her busy schedule to answer questions about that night and about maura.

I hope to wrap up my questions with her sometime this week, but would like to make sure I cover all bases.

Clint

Here are a few questions:

Was it possible Maura could sneak away from her post?

Did the supervisor know about the credit card fraud allegations?

Thanks!

 

[McSpy]

Thinking about Maura today. Hope she is found soon.

Maura is the first case that I started following, and I really don't like how it feels like you need to pick a side in the debate (cough cough, Renner or Fred). The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle of their stories.

Let's remember the real reason that we're here: To find Maura.

It's not a matter of picking a side. Discussions sometimes include disagreements. JMO

 

[scoops]

Here are a few questions:

Was it possible Maura could sneak away from her post?

Did the supervisor know about the credit card fraud allegations?

Thanks!

McSpy,

Both of those questions have been asked already. If you think of anymore ask away. I didn't bombard her with all my questions at once, I have broken up the interview into sections vie email, so you have a few days to think of something.

 

[McSpy]

McSpy,

Both of those questions have been asked already. If you think of anymore ask away. I didn't bombard her with all my questions at once, I have broken up the interview into sections vie email, so you have a few days to think of something.

Did she answer these questions recently or were these answers buried in some old media article somewhere? Thanks!

 

[scoops]

Did she answer these questions recently or were these answers buried in some old media article somewhere? Thanks!

She is answering these questions presently.

I will likely not release the interview publically, but I may (with her permission) provide some direct quotes from her.

 

[OldSteve]

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I have thought about many of these same points you make and my original theory was that maura succumbed to the elements. There is plenty of places to head off and hide and eventually perish at and figuring out exactly which place someone like maura may have dodged away for would be like trying to find a needle in a haystack, especially if the further you get away from where her car was crashed at.

Would you know if any of the areas MM could have run off to prohibited hunting? Hunters often are the ones who find victims or clues - yet, I wonder if the forest being under Federal authority (I think) might not allow hunting?

 

[scoops]

Snipped to point of interest:


Would you know if any of the areas MM could have run off to prohibited hunting? Hunters often are the ones who find victims or clues - yet, I wonder if the forest being under Federal authority (I think) might not allow hunting?

That is a good question, however, I would have to defer that to someone more local and familiar with the area.

 

[hannah1988]

Thinking about Maura today; where are you?!?

 

[gnomony]

http://mauramurray.blogspot.com/2013/04/about-that-red-truck.html

 

[McSpy]

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Would you know if any of the areas MM could have run off to prohibited hunting? Hunters often are the ones who find victims or clues - yet, I wonder if the forest being under Federal authority (I think) might not allow hunting?

There is private property too. Someone could live on a large wooded lot and not allow hunting, but not venture out far on their property. In other words, they don't know what could be in their woods. Just a possibility.

 

[scoops]

This will be my final Maura Murray post.

Evidently a certain fiction writer named James Renner AKA Gnomony ... doesn't like me interviewing people he has interviewed, so he went crying like a little girl to them and begged them to stop cooperating.

I did mange to get four pages of quotes from maura's supervisor before the drama queen stepped in and intervened.

Here is the best I could do about the night maura had her meltdown at work.



FACT: Maura's offical job title was "Security Monitor"
FACT: Maura worked from 8 p.m. to 2 a.m. the night of her meltdown at work.

FACT:Vasi Hit and run was reported a block over from the Melville Dorm Maura worked at - at precisely 12:20 a.m.

Fact:Maura's supervisor was told something was wrong with maura and she went to check on maura somewhere close to 1 a.m.

FACT:When Supervisor entered the dorm maura was working the front desk at and walked right up to maura and asked her what the matter was, maura was non-responsive and staring straight past the supervisor.

FACT:Two females entered the dorm (One a resident, the other a guest of the resident) and Maura did not acknowledge them or request that the guest be signed in and continued staring ahead blankly as allthewhile the supervisor was continuing to ask maura what was wrong and getting no response out of maura

FACT:Finally Maura GESTURED TO HER CELL PHONE and told the supervisor "My Sister" before immediately breaking down and beginning to cry.

FACT:Supervisor got permission to check maura out of work early (30 to 45 minutes before 2 a.m.) YET MAURA REMAINED AT THE DESK FROZEN, as the supervisor finally decided to go and pack up maura's textbooks and cell phone herself and carry maura's backpack for her as she headed for the front door which finally prompted maura to get up and exit the building.

FACT:Supervisor turned over a witness statement to police.

OPINION: Police read about maura pointing to her phone and saying "MY SISTER" and that is how they determined that a phone call that took place from 10:10 p.m. to 10:38 p.m. between maura and her sister, must be the source of maura's meltdown.

FACT:Maura actually was on her cell phone at 12:07 a.m. that same night and less than an hour before her meltdown.

OPINION:Maura was talking to her boyfriend from 12:07 a.m. to 12:14 a.m.

OBSERVATION:Why has this phone call not been talked about publically, yet we talk about the 10:10 phone call that was hours before maura's meltdown.

 

[Unscripted]

Mr. Renner’s update from his interview with Maura’s supervisor, Karen Mayotte, regarding the Petrit Vasi accident: http://mauramurray.blogspot.com/2013/04/more-reasons-to-forget-vasi-connection.html

 

[hannah1988]

Forgive me because I'm new here. Is there a map available that shows what areas around the accident scene have been searched?

 

[missingnotforgotten]

Forgive me because I'm new here. Is there a map available that shows what areas around the accident scene have been searched?

Not that I have seen.

 

[hannah1988]

I've started rereading Maura's threads on here from the beginning, and it just reinforces how frustrating this case is! It's like the perfect storm of frustrating circumstances:

1) Questionable work by NH LE - I obviously don't know the details but it seems like a lot of people both in Maura's family and outside of her family are frustrated with how the case was handled. Rumors that witnesses were not interviewed, leads were not followed up, etc.

2) A small window of disappearance - TEN MINUTES?! In most disappearances, you can't pinpoint a timeframe and location of disappearance like that!

3) Conflicting stories/evidence - The red cross phone call, the letter from/to Billy, the phone call at work, etc.

4) Family "issues" - I'm not sure what's going on with Maura's family, and I don't really want to speculate because I don't know them and people respond differently to tragedy. That being said, there are some dynamics there that understandably attract attention.

5) Who is Maura?! She wanted to escape, but was she planning to escape for good? Unfortunately, I think there are some unflattering things about Maura and her family that will never come out and therefore we may never be able to grasp her intentions and her mindset that night.

Uggggh! Frustrated!!!!