Identified! NJ - Atlantic Highlands, WhtFem 15-20, UP1458, Skeletal on hillside, Dec'88 - Nancy Carol Fitzgerald

  • #61
Would not hurt to send it in to DOE for a match panel assessment. I see that the UID has a gap between the the upper central incisors whereas Margaret had two missing teeth in top right front. That would have been reported as a characteristic on the UID. Looks as if there were no pants found with the UID but there were brown leather platform sandals - Margaret was wearing brown leather sandals when she was last seen. So - could very well be her.
 
  • #62
Thanks Jane in Oz for combining the info here to compare! :blowkiss:
 
  • #63
Thanks for your feedback, everyone, I sent Rocky an email. We will see...
 
  • #64
to be honest, I don't really see a resemblance, but then again I don't really rely on reconstructions for anything other than bone structure, and all the other factors seem to match. I say call it in!
 
  • #65
I don't know if that means ruled out or under investigation, the email came back from Rocky....
 
  • #66
sillygilly "Already submitted"

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I don't know if that means ruled out or under investigation, the email came back from Rocky....
Yesterday 02:56 PM

I received the same response back from Rocky last week when I submitted a possible match between http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/479ufnj.html and http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/..._brittany.html. I just left it at that and didn't go any further contacting anyone else.
 
  • #67
I wonder if there is a list of people already ruled out somewhere? This might be quite useful.
 
  • #68
I couldn't find a rule out list for Monmouth Jane...and I really think there are some strong similarities between Jane and Denise Sheehy http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/754dfny.html

The clothes are almost spot on, the teeth look similar (doe conflicts with NAMUS, so I am going by NAMUS) and height and weight are close.

I saw that Denise's sister has still been looking for her...and I am wondering if she has submitted her DNA to get Denise on CODIS.
 
  • #69
here is more info on Jane:

1973-1975: Unknown Female Skeletal Remains
Unknown Sketch Unknown Composite

On December 10, 1988, while local residents gathered to help clear a parcel of land that runs along the Sandy Hook Bay in Atlantic Highlands for a bicycle trail, a local volunteer found what he at first thought was a plastic ball, which turned out to be a human skull. The resident reported the find to the Atlantic Highlands Police Department who began an investigation into this found human skull.

Once the Monmouth County Medical Examiner's Office and the State of New Jersey Medical Examiner's Office confirmed that the skull was human, the Atlantic Highlands Police Department, with the assistance of the Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office, New Jersey State Police, Connecticut State Police, Monmouth County Medical Examiner's Office, State of New Jersey Medical Examiner's Office, Burlington County Medical Examiner's Office, the local Department of Public Works and Water Department, excavated the area by sifting the earth in four sectors, recovering more than 85% of the skeletal remains.

An anthropology examination was performed upon the skeletal remains, which were identified as a:

* Caucasian female
* between the ages of 15 to 18 years old at time of death
* 5'1" to 5'4"
* approximately 100 to 120 pounds.

The decedent was found to be wearing the following:

* platform sandal shoes, composed of brown leather with brown painted plastic platform soles and a 2½ inch high heel, size 6½
* knee high white acrylic socks
* grey & red nylon long sleeved laced top
* white brassiere

additional items near the remains:

* portion of one pink rubber "thong-type" sandal
* leather like shoe or small boot with a picture of a football scene on side in red and white

A botanist reviewed the scene and clothing in the skeletal remains and estimated the body had been in that same location for approximately the previous fifteen years. This would put the year of death at approximately 1973 to 1975.

An investigation by the Atlantic Highlands Police Department was conducted in an attempt to identify the human skeletal remains. The human skeletal remains were mapped out and placed in the National Police computer system for all law enforcement departments to compare to their missing persons. The local media from the tri-state area converged on the small town of Atlantic Highlands and broadcast the human skeletal recovery for about four straight days. Massive medical coverage was aired and a special program called Crime Beat highlighted this case. No identification was made.

In 1992, with the assistance of the FBI, a clay reconstruction was made over the human skull and is a possible resemblance of what this recovered female skeletal remains may have looked like. Additionally, several parts of the skeletal remains were sent to LabCorp in Research Triangle Park, North Carolina for mitochondrial DNA profiling in 1997.

The Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office and the Atlantic Highlands Police Department now have a DNA profile that can be used to link this female subject to a family member as well as dental records.
 
  • #70
I wonder if Sheryl Tillinghast has been looked at.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/t/tillinghast_sheryl.html

The one thing that catches my attention is the condition of her teeth which match the description of MJD's teeth.

tillinghast_sheryl2.jpg
20UFNJ2.jpg


Her height is within range although her weight is a little higher than the estimate (I presume based on MJD's clothing).

Her hometown of Wassaic NY is 140 miles from Monmouth County NJ.

And since she wasn't reported missing until 1998, she may have been missed in the sweep for possibles when MJD's remains were found.
 
  • #71
i think that might be a possible, my only concern with Sheryl matching was dental. The NAMUS chart on MJD shows some fillings/restoration.

Also, wondering if Sheryl's DNA has been entered into CODIS...
 
  • #72
i think that might be a possible, my only concern with Sheryl matching was dental. The NAMUS chart on MJD shows some fillings/restoration.

Also, wondering if Sheryl's DNA has been entered into CODIS...

Ditto, she's worth checking into.
 
  • #73
Also, wondering if Sheryl's DNA has been entered into CODIS...

I had already checked Sheryl's Doe page, and it didn't say anythinhg about DNA, but I should have also checked Sheryl's NamUs profile:

https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/3259/0/

It says DNA Status: Sample Submitted, Tests Complete. It's fair to say "submitted" means entered in CODIS. And the UID's DNA is definitely in CODIS.

Therefore, Sheryl is a CODIS rule-out.
 
  • #74
I had already checked Sheryl's Doe page, and it didn't say anythinhg about DNA, but I should have also checked Sheryl's NamUs profile:

https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/3259/0/

It says DNA Status: Sample Submitted, Tests Complete. It's fair to say "submitted" means entered in CODIS. And the UID's DNA is definitely in CODIS.

Therefore, Sheryl is a CODIS rule-out.

I thought that meant it was submitted for testing, and if it was in CODIS, it said "entered in CODIS"????
 
  • #75
I thought that meant it was submitted for testing, and if it was in CODIS, it said "entered in CODIS"????

You're right - Maybe I shouldn't presume things that aren't as explicitly stated as I would like. I'm making a conscious effort to not cling to theories that get contradicted by closer examination. I've been guilty of that on occasion.

I just wish that they would be more clear about that. If DNA was put into CODIS, they should explicitly say so.
 
  • #76
I am reminded of the old saying about "assume" makes an "🤬🤬🤬" of "u" and "me"... :p Something I do rather often. I'm trying to really look at the evidence, not just the faces (which I'm not very good at) but all the other evidence. It's hard when there's often so little available, but ignoring things isn't good.
 
  • #77
  • #78
I am confused with Namus info.

Comparing
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/20ufnj.html and
https://identifyus.org/cases/1458

Date of discovery, location, height, weight estimates match, more or less. Both agree that the age was 15+ but Namus puts the upper end of the range at 20 and DN at 30 years old. The case numbers given are different. DN says the victim was estimated to have been buried at the location for over 10 years, so, sometime in the 1970s. Namus says probable year of death was 1980 to 1988. Namus lists fewer clothing items than DN and gives her platform sandal size as 8 1/2, not 6 1/2.
 
  • #79
I noticed that Michele Reidenbach's chin seems to look pretty similar to this UID's. Her other stats are dead on too.

Michele's stats:

Height: 5'0 - 5'4 - Match
Weight: 110 - 120 lbs - Match
Age: 16 (within age range of 15 - 30) - Match

The timeframe for the estimate is over 10 years. If this was a match, it would be 9 years.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/reidenbach_michele.html
 
  • #80
http://blog.nj.com/deadlysecrets/2007/08/chapter_fifteen.html#incart_mrt

Just read this article about a SK operating in Monmouth County in the 60s/70s, who was convicted of abducting and murdering Rosemary Calandriello: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/calandriello_rosemary.html

I would be surprised if Rosemary hadn't already been compared with Monmouth Jane, but the fact that the SK said he had killed Rosemary near Sandy Hook Bay, where Jane was found leaves me scratching my head.

There are some discrepancies, including the shoes, and Rosemary disappeared in 1969 which prior to timeline in DN/Namus...

But what strikes me as a "signature" linking the SK to Jane is the lack of bottoms discovered. On his known victims, this was also case. If there is a link, that would date Jane to pre 1975, when he was incarcerated.

As always, JMHO.
 

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