AMBER ALERT NJ - Dulce Mariá Alavez, 5, abducted at Bridgeton City Park, Cumberland County, 16 Sept 2019 #4

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  • #21
You underestimate the reality of deportation. If you saw something vague, of only possible import, and you step forward to share that; you are risking losing your entire family, your home, your children, your job, your whole life. That is a HUGE DEAL for a “maybe”.

ICE just came into NJ this week to make a big show of aggressive arrests. They locked up the father of Noema’s unborn child for his immigration status. This is a VERY BIG DEAL. Asking someone to give up literally everything they hold dear in life, including their own children, to share something that may or may not even be helpful or relevant, is a VERY big deal.

It’s unfair to ask someone to sacrifice their family for someone else’s. Would you give up your child’s safety and security for the possibility that another child might be found? What if what you said turned out to be useless but your child’s safety and security (and yours and that of your whole family) was now gone anyway, simply because you spoke up?

It would be one thing if you knew FOR SURE what you had to say would save this child. But still, asking a parent to sacrifice their own child’s safety for the possibility that another child might be helped is a nearly impossible ask. Asking a parent to sacrifice their own child’s safety and security to ABSOLUTELY help another child is STILL a big ask.

The only way LE could’ve avoided this problem effectively would’ve been to proactively offer some sort of protective custody or witness protection for anyone who came forward. They should’ve done that BEFORE the stepfather of the missing girl was arrested by ICE. In my opinion, that was the last hope for community witness cooperation. After that happened, there would be no real community witnesses no matter what the reward was. Unless the reward was guaranteed instant citizenship, eye witnesses were done coming forward at that point. I said it then and I don’t think that’s changed.

I’m proud of NJ for taking a stand to protect immigrant witnesses (making communities safer) but clearly more must be done. This is a prime example of how dangerous it can be for a community when immigrants feel unsafe talking to LE about crimes they have seen or heard about. It’s so frustrating.

That's NOT what the poster suggested. The poster suggested anonymously reporting a tip, which the Sheriff has made numerous assurances can be done. Furthermore, he's working with local clergy. (Another avenue of anonymously reporting.) No one expects anyone to give up their family.
 
  • #22
Yes, the concept of discussing gangs was dismissed by many but it seems that gangs are a part of the culture in Cumberland County and to dismiss their presence for any number of the issues previously cited might do the investigation a disservice. I would think LE has actively pursued the local gangs for information and given the number of gangs that are present in Cumberland County this is no small job.
They use a gang help then ?
 
  • #23
Where did you see that the family is looking to increase the reward?
I think it was mentioned in the crowdfunding post.
 
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Going off the idea that the playground and park was under construction, could this person be related to the work being done on the park?
If the playground was under construction that leads to more questions. Who was doing construction: City rec department? Independent contractor? Both? As someone mentioned in a back post, shoes could be work boots. Van could be work van. Depending on soil composition in that area could a dirty, dusty van take on a reddish hugh?
 
  • #26
In this case, the lack of solid information and no pressers, are adding to the case losing press presence. The press can only regurgitate the same details for so long before people become disheartened, frustrated, perhaps even afraid due to LE being stymied. I am not so sure that in this case the fact that she's a U.S. citizen of Hispanic origin has had much influence on the lack of media presence.

Additionally, it's easy to elicit stories about an adult. They've lived longer, interacted with more people, and their contemporaries can give detailed accounts about them. A 5 year-old has barely begun to live. Those stories and details that allowed us to feel like we really got to "know" MT, unfortunately, they just aren't there for little Dulce. Social media is another avenue that people can explore and get to know, in a sense, a missing adult. That is also not available with a 5 year-old.

I wonder if Mom, friends, or family have any cellphone video of her or some way, without a presser...since they don't seem to be coming, to keep providing information? Even if it's not details about the abduction, it's still information about Dulce. That will help keep this in the forefront of people's minds.

Have you seen the clip they shared of Dulce singing a song from Frozen?
 
  • #27
I just drove past a giant electronic billboard with Dulce photo and Amber alert and phone number in Monmouth county. Hopefully there are more popping up everywhere and will keep her face out there.
 
  • #28
I just drove past a giant electronic billboard with Dulce photo and Amber alert and phone number in Monmouth county. Hopefully there are more popping up everywhere and will keep her face out there.

I traveled up the Parkway and Turnpike (towards NYC) this morning from the LBI area and have not seen anything.
 
  • #29
TWO WEEKS since little Dulce Maria Alavez went missing. Police believe the 5YO girl was abducted from Bridgeton City Park. Please continue to share to help bring this sweet girl—a daughter, sister, cousin, friend—back home to her family @FOX29philly

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Kelly Rule on Twitter
 
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I'm in the Cherry Hill and the signs on Route 38 and 295 do not mention her anymore. And it was not on the news this morning either.
 
  • #32
Hmm maybe the board wasn’t rented so they posted the amber alert instead of the advertise here message? I’ll try and take a photo later
 
  • #33
It was on the route 35 bridge NB -ironically where Sarah Sarah body was dumped.

I wonder why the Parkway, to this date, has never put up her AMBER ALERT.
 
  • #34
Search for missing 5-year-old Dulce Alavez enters 3rd week with few clues in Amber Alert case

The search for missing 5-year-old Dulce Alavez enters its third week on Monday as investigators continue to pursue possible leads and tips after she went missing Sept. 16 at Bridgeton City Park, possibly taken by a man in a red van.

“We continue the search for Dulce,” Jennifer Webb-McRae of the Cumberland County Prosecutor’s Office said in the last official update offered on Friday. “We ask the public to continue to remain observant and report any information (to) assist us in finding Dulce and in determining the circumstances leading to Dulce’s disappearance.”

A witness later told police a man led Dulce to a red van with a sliding door. He is described as a clean-shaven, Hispanic, with a thin build and facial acne. Authorities said he is about 5-feet-8 inches tall. That triggered an Amber Alert the day after she disappeared.

The search for Dulce remains the only active Amber Alert case nationally as of Monday morning, according to missingkids.org.
 
  • #35
If the playground was under construction that leads to more questions. Who was doing construction: City rec department? Independent contractor? Both? As someone mentioned in a back post, shoes could be work boots. Van could be work van. Depending on soil composition in that area could a dirty, dusty van take on a reddish hugh?
As far as I can tell, nobody was there constructing anything at the time.
 
  • #36
I just saw another one on Gsp 127 Nb Driscoll bridge -it rotates messages
It doesn’t have the fbi on it but it says Red
Are there different levels of amber alert ?
It probably said Red van? I don't believe there are red Amber alerts.
 
  • #37
(O/T, I’m reminded of Lucas Hernandez’ case when they kept searching the park (totally different case here of course).)

There have been a number of searches over the years in PA, NJ and DE where the victim was later found in an area that was searched. There are a number of reasons why this happens. The volunteer teams do the best they can with what evidence presents itself. Some teams are better trackers, others are better line searchers and others have neither and depend on their dogs. Same with LE. Not all LE are trained in SAR. From what we know, it appears to be 30% she is still in the park and 60% she was moved elsewhere, but that's just my educated guess.
 
  • #38
That's disappointing. Keeping the picture and contact information in the public's eye is critical.
 
  • #39
Where did you see that the family is looking to increase the reward?

The reward was already increased to $65,000 on September 20th as per an announcement by philanthropist Bill Pulte on Twitter.

Bill Pulte on Twitter

I’ve only seen it referenced by the org, The Missing. It seems to have been ignored by everyone else.

Locate The Missing

However, Bill Pulte DOES give his money away to causes he selects on his twitter profile as referenced by MSM. For some reason, his announcement about Dulce was ignored and considered unverified, but this is not the first time he’s done this.

Meet the 31-year-old Twitter philanthropist giving away money to strangers online

Further digging reveals that some
individuals have made complaints about him (though nothing I’ve found on MSM). It could be the complaints or the way he gives his money away that has caused his “donation” to be excluded from official announcements. But it definitely was offered.
 

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  • #40
They use a gang help then ?
IMO, yes the gangs could help if they wanted to assist here. Its a complex situation for LE to work with gang but my guess is that LE will try just about anything to try and find a missing 5 yo. innocent child. Pure speculation on my part but I can't see LE taking gang cooperation off the table in order to bring Dulce home.
 
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