GUILTY NM - 11 children found in "filthy" compound with little food, training to commit terrorism, Taos, Aug 2018

[katydid23]

THEY FOUND THE REMAINS OF A CHILD YESTERDAY????

 

[katydid23]

Child's remains found on New Mexico compound believed to be missing Georgia boy



TAOS, N.M. -- A child's remains have been found on a compound in New Mexico where authorities were looking for a missing Jonesboro, Georgia boy.

Authorities said in the news conference that they have not positively identified the remains as missing Abdul-Ghani Wahhaj.

"The child was found on the inner portion of the compound," Sheriff Taos County Sheriff Jerry L. Hogrefe said.


Child's remains found on New Mexico compound believed to be missing Georgia boy

 

[katydid23]

 

[Really?]

So disturbing and sad

 

[SuziQ]

Oh sad! It's a bad summer for children.

 

[claudianunes]

Oh no...

 

[Owutatangledweb]

We have no information that the women were there voluntarily AFAIK.

Likewise, there is no information that anyone in the group was an "extremist". They evidently were observant muslims, but we've recently had multiple-child-abuse arrests in families of other faiths, including observant christians. Those designations reflect religious beliefs; they are not by nature "extremist", but individuals can become so, as can those who are non-observant (the recent case where a woman drove her whole family off a cliff in California springs to mind).

Very frequently religious+guns+hiding in remote places= extremist or ~ crazy

 

[Owutatangledweb]

Those poor babies.

 

[Chelly]

Oh god I live in New Mexico, haven't read all the posts. Just need to know. Can someone tell me how to help? now.

 

[RickshawFan]

11 kids rescued from armed ‘extremists’ at buried compound, New Mexico sheriff says

“I absolutely knew that we couldn’t wait on another agency to step up and we had to go check this out as soon as possible, so I began working on a search warrant,” Hogrefe said in the release. “The occupants were most likely heavily armed and considered extremist of the Muslim belief,” he added.

The sheriff's wording reflects his personal prejudices.

It's unclear what "extremist of the Muslim belief" means. It's also unduly inflammatory by playing on many folks' unfounded fear of muslims' religious beliefs. By comparison, I don't believe I ever heard FLDS polygamists called "extremists of the Mormon belief," although that would be a very apt description.

Maybe the arrested men were extremists. After all, they seem to have created an extreme situation out there in the New Mexico desert. IMO any person who abuses kids could be described as extremists creating an extreme situation. But is it really necessary to saddle that on a religious belief? The answer is NO.

 

[RickshawFan]

Ha! Two years ago they were only harassing elderly women at immigration, because they did not have a hotel booking and did not know the address of the house that they would be spending most time in. I knew the address of my friend's sister whose home I would be arriving at, who lived near the airport, but not the address of my friend who I would be staying with. For three quarters of an hour at 2am in the morning I was questioned. I also was not carrying with me any proof that I even had a friend in the US. My baggage was searched, my hands were swabbed. My passport stamps were examined and I was asked why I had inboard and outboard stamps from Thailand.
Way, way over the top.

Could you clarify what your story responds to?
It's normal to examine passport stamps. That's what they do when you arrive in a country. That stage of entering is called "Immigration." It happens right before "Customs." Passports get scrutinized even for children, people in wheelchairs, school girls, holiday makers, business people. Everyone except diplomats has their passports examined closely and gruffly. And even folks carrying American diplomatic passports and entering the US don't get an entirely free pass.
It's also normal to require an address where you'll be when in the country. Many countries require it. It's fairly typical for that to be filled out on a form before you land. That's just how it is.

 

[RickshawFan]

... Jason Badger, who owns the land where the compound was found. “Not quite sure what they were searching for, hopefully that missing child. They did have dogs up there sniffing around which is good. I'm very happy they were doing that.”

Doesn't it seem unusual that this "compound" was on someone's land and the owner doesn't seem to have known about it? What's with that?

 

[bears10]

Doesn't it seem unusual that this "compound" was on someone's land and the owner doesn't seem to have known about it? What's with that?

Property owner Jason Badger said he and his wife had pressed authorities to remove the group from the makeshift compound on his land.

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Court records show a judge dismissed an eviction notice filed by Badger against Lucas Morton in June. The records didn’t provide further details on the judge’s decision.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...dc9316-99e2-11e8-a8d8-9b4c13286d6b_story.html

Eta. BBM. He knew about it and went to court over it.

 

[Jennifer17]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...dc9316-99e2-11e8-a8d8-9b4c13286d6b_story.html

Eta. BBM. He knew about it and went to court over it.

Were they just squatting there?

 

[bears10]

Were they just squatting there?

Investigators believe one of the suspects owned an adjacent property but built the compound on the Badgers' property "by mistake," according to the affidavit for the search warrant.

The Badgers tried to negotiate with the occupants to do a land swap, but Wahhaj wasn't able to come up with the funds to complete the swap, they said. The couple said they tried to get the group to move, but were told by the Sheriff's Department that they had to file an eviction notice to the occupants.

"We had told them several times that you know they're not tenants, they're not paying this rent, they're squatters, they're there illegally -- I don't want them there," Jason Badger said.

More info at the link

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...-we-know-about-new-mexico-compound/index.html

 

[DakotaMayi]

I am very afraid that the poor missing child will be found buried in the desert, nearby. He seemed to be in very poor health, and the living conditions were horrid. Let alone the thought, that he had to possibly endure an exorcism. Many innocent children have died in that way. This case is very upsetting in so many ways.

Yeah, I'm honestly surprised to hear that he was alive just a few weeks ago.

 

[DakotaMayi]

The sheriff's wording reflects his personal prejudices.

It's unclear what "extremist of the Muslim belief" means. It's also unduly inflammatory by playing on many folks' unfounded fear of muslims' religious beliefs. By comparison, I don't believe I ever heard FLDS polygamists called "extremists of the Mormon belief," although that would be a very apt description.

Maybe the arrested men were extremists. After all, they seem to have created an extreme situation out there in the New Mexico desert. IMO any person who abuses kids could be described as extremists creating an extreme situation. But is it really necessary to saddle that on a religious belief? The answer is NO.

Depends what they know about these individuals. You can't seriously be saying that we have all of the information? I'll take what the Sheriff is saying.

 

[Elley Mae]

“They are our Muslim brothers and sisters. I have no opinion about what they have done or what they are accused of doing. I am supporting them simply because they are my Muslim brothers and sisters,” Latifa said.

She said her husband met at least of one the men in jail, who had concerns about the food.

“They were hoping for more appropriate food, but they are doing alright with the food because they can eat vegetarian food. They would rather have what is called halal food,” said Latifa.

NM couple meets with suspects arrested at compound

 

[Elley Mae]

One 8-year-old child said that all the adults in the compound had seen Abdul-Ghani deceased and that “Uncle Lucas” – an apparent reference to Morton – washed the body twice and buried it in either a tunnel deputies found around the compound or in the “toilet room.”

Remains of young child found at compound

When questioned, the women gave their names and the names of their children, “but would not give any information as to the whereabouts of AG Wahhaj except to say that ‘he is not my son and I (we) am not allowed to talk about him,'” the affidavit states.

But Hogrefe wrote that when he interviewed the three women individually, they confirmed Abdul-Ghani had been there by confirming with a “head nod.”

 

[DakotaMayi]

“They are our Muslim brothers and sisters. I have no opinion about what they have done or what they are accused of doing. I am supporting them simply because they are my Muslim brothers and sisters,” Latifa said.

She said her husband met at least of one the men in jail, who had concerns about the food.

“They were hoping for more appropriate food, but they are doing alright with the food because they can eat vegetarian food. They would rather have what is called halal food,” said Latifa.

NM couple meets with suspects arrested at compound

Say what now?

Hm, I think I might need to take a hike on out of this thread.