GUILTY NM - 11 children found in "filthy" compound with little food, training to commit terrorism, Taos, Aug 2018

[EuTuCroquet?]

https://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/The-Latest-New-Mexico-DA-eyes-no-bail-for-13141021.php

A defense attorney is questioning accusations that a man arrested at a ramshackle New Mexico compound was training children to commit school shootings.

Aleks Kostich of the Taos County Public Defender's Office said Wednesday the allegations by prosecutors against Siraj Ibn Wahhaj (see-DAHJ' IBN wah-HAJ') lacked additional explanation, except to say the information came from the foster parent of a child removed from the compound last week.​

 

[Jennifer17]

https://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/The-Latest-New-Mexico-DA-eyes-no-bail-for-13141021.php

A defense attorney is questioning accusations that a man arrested at a ramshackle New Mexico compound was training children to commit school shootings.

Aleks Kostich of the Taos County Public Defender's Office said Wednesday the allegations by prosecutors against Siraj Ibn Wahhaj (see-DAHJ' IBN wah-HAJ') lacked additional explanation, except to say the information came from the foster parent of a child removed from the compound last week.​

I would question that too. When were these kids let out of that closed environment to be set loose on schools? I hope that those kids are not going to be further damaged by foster parents with their own agenda.

 

[katydid23]

I would question that too. When were these kids let out of that closed environment to be set loose on schools? I hope that those kids are not going to be further damaged by foster parents with their own agenda.

I wonder who has more of an agenda? An extremist who moves a large group of kids to a remote desert compound, with weapons, and no food or resources---or the foster mother who repeated what one of the children in the compound told her?

They hid the body of a 3 yr old in the bathroom area, and all of the children shared a living space with their dead friend.

I have no doubts that the leader of this group was 'training' the 15 yr old at least, to use weapons in the future, in line with the extremists visions.

 

[katydid23]

https://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/The-Latest-New-Mexico-DA-eyes-no-bail-for-13141021.php

A defense attorney is questioning accusations that a man arrested at a ramshackle New Mexico compound was training children to commit school shootings.

Aleks Kostich of the Taos County Public Defender's Office said Wednesday the allegations by prosecutors against Siraj Ibn Wahhaj (see-DAHJ' IBN wah-HAJ') lacked additional explanation, except to say the information came from the foster parent of a child removed from the compound last week.​

If I have to decide which person seems more credible---the foster mother, or Siraj Ibn Wahhaj, I am going with the foster mother.

 

[Jennifer17]

If I have to decide which person seems more credible---the foster mother, or Siraj Ibn Wahhaj, I am going with the foster mother.

One person. Have the other foster parents reported any of this?

 

[katydid23]

One person. Have the other foster parents reported any of this?

It's too early to know. I am assuming she may have been the foster mother of the 15 yr old or one of the eldest.

I don't see any reason for her to lie. All they have to do is ask the child for corroboration.


But it seems pretty logical that the men would be training the kids as militia. Why else go to a remote desert compound with weapons and no resources?

 

[DakotaMayi]

by Associated Press
August 8, 2018
The father of a still-missing boy was allegedly training children to commit school gun massacres. The remains of a 3-year-old boy found near the compound have not yet been identified.


New Mexico compound where 11 starving, filthy children held captive was training ground for school shooters: Report

Oh just get rid of him. What a waste of human life he is.

 

[Elley Mae]

I would question that too. When were these kids let out of that closed environment to be set loose on schools? I hope that those kids are not going to be further damaged by foster parents with their own agenda.

It’s obvious that the 5 adults did not have a good “agenda” living in the middle of no where with 11 live children and one dead and buried.


What would a foster parents agenda be?

 

[Elley Mae]

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In January, a Facebook account of Naeemah Rashid, who said she is the imam’s daughter-in-law, posted a picture of other children around the missing poster for Abdul-Ghani.
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“I wanted to take the time now to make sure we also focus on praying for the other children as well, because of their parents making these choices it’s going to affect these children as well,” she wrote. “AND AGAIN THE FATHER (SIRAJ IBN) AND SON (ABDUL GHANI) WAS THE ONLY ONES REPORTED AS MISSING TO THE POLICE, BUT THEY ARE LIKELY TO BE TRAVELING TOGETHER WITH ALL IN THE PICTURE BELOW.”

Children were brought to New Mexico compound for weapons training, officials said

 

[Elley Mae]

According to court documents, one of the eleven children told their foster parent they'd been trained, "…in the use of an assault rifle in preparation for a future school shooting, to kill as many people as possible."

The documents also state the children were transported across state lines for the purpose of "receiving advanced weapons training to commit future acts of violence."

Jacobson addressed whether parents should be concerned about the children possibly attending public school, now that they're in foster care.

Children rescued from northern NM compound placed in foster care

 

[DakotaMayi]

According to court documents, one of the eleven children told their foster parent they'd been trained, "…in the use of an assault rifle in preparation for a future school shooting, to kill as many people as possible."

The documents also state the children were transported across state lines for the purpose of "receiving advanced weapons training to commit future acts of violence."

Jacobson addressed whether parents should be concerned about the children possibly attending public school, now that they're in foster care.

Children rescued from northern NM compound placed in foster care

I know they are only kids, but it's very worrying. I hope they feel grateful that they have been rescued and given better opportunities rather than feel angry that they have been taken away from their parents. Anger like that could leave them feeling very bitter towards the country.

 

[Elley Mae]

Man arrested at New Mexico compound is son of imam with possible link to 1993 World Trade Center bombing

Man arrested at New Mexico compound is son of imam with possible link to 1993 World Trade Center bombing

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Siraj Wahhaj, who shares a name with his son who was arrested Saturday, testified as a character witness for Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, the notorious "blind sheikh" who was convicted in 1995 of plotting terror attacks in the U.S.

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The elder Wahhaj heads Masjid At-Taqwa mosque in Brooklyn, New York, which has attracted radical speakers over the years.

 

[Niner]

Okay updates -

Siraj = 11 counts of child abuse:

Register of Actions Activity
Event Date Event Description Event Result Party Type Party # Amount
08/08/2018 ORD: DETENTION/ ARRAIGNMENT
Arraignment Order (To be held pending no bond hearing)
08/08/2018 REQUEST FOR HEARING/ SETTING P 1
Request for Setting (Matter to be Heard: State's Expedited Motion for Pretrial Detention/No Bond Hold)
08/08/2018 MTN: for Pretrial Preventive Detention
State's Expedited Motion for Pretrial Detention/No Bond Hold
08/08/2018 OPN: CRIMINAL INFORMATION / COMPLAINT
Criminal Complaint (The State of New Mexico charges the Defendant, Siraj Ibn Wahhaj, with 11 counts of Abuse of a Child (Does Not Result in Death or Great Bodily Harm) and Custodial Interference (Right to Custody))

Hearings for this Case
Hearing Date Hearing Time Hearing Type Hearing Judge Court
08/13/2018 11:30 AM MOTION HEARING McElroy, Jeff F. TAOS DISTRICT COURT

link: Stale Session

Fugitive from Justice charge:
Register of Actions Activity
Event Date Event Description Event Result Party Type Party # Amount
08/08/2018 NTC: OF HEARING
Status Hearing
08/08/2018 Conditional Order of Appointment
08/08/2018 ORD: SETTING CONDITIONS OF RELEASE
08/08/2018 ADVISEMENT OF RIGHTS READ
08/06/2018 PROBABLE CAUSE DETERMINATION / FOUND
08/06/2018 STATEMENT OF PROBABLE CAUSE
08/06/2018 OPN: CRIMINAL COMPLAINT FILED

Hearings for this Case
Hearing Date Hearing Time Hearing Type Hearing Judge Court
09/12/2018 2:00 PM Status Hearing Shannon, Jeffrey A. TAOS MAGISTRATE COURT

link: Stale Session

 

[Niner]

Leveille - 11 counts of child abuse:

Register of Actions Activity
Event Date Event Description Event Result Party Type Party # Amount
08/08/2018 CLS: DISMISSED WITHOUT PREJUDICE
08/08/2018 NTC: Notice of Dismissal P 1
Notice of Dismissal of Felony Criminal Compliant
08/06/2018 WAR: PHYSICAL WARRANT RETURNED
08/06/2018 OPN: CRIMINAL COMPLAINT FILED
08/05/2018 WAR: PRE-ADJUDICATION WARRANT SERVED

link: Stale Session

Register of Actions Activity
Event Date Event Description Event Result Party Type Party # Amount
08/08/2018 NTC: OF HEARING
August 10, 2018 at 9:00 am - State's Expedited Motion for Pretrial Detention / No Bond Hold
08/08/2018 NTC: OF HEARING
August 8, 2018 at 2:30 pm - Arraignment
08/08/2018 ORD: DETENTION/ ARRAIGNMENT
Hold Without Bond Pending Hearing
08/08/2018 OPN: CRIMINAL INFORMATION / COMPLAINT P 1
Count 1-11: Abuse of a Child (Does Not Result in Death or Great Bodily Harm)
08/08/2018 REQUEST FOR HEARING/ SETTING P 1
Request for Setting (Matter to be Heard: State's Expedited Motion for Pretrial Detention/No Bond Hold)
08/08/2018 MTN: for Pretrial Preventive Detention
State's Expedited Motion for Pretrial Detention/No Bond Hold

Hearings for this Case
Hearing Date Hearing Time Hearing Type Hearing Judge Court Court Room
08/10/2018 9:00 AM DETENTION HEARING Backus, Sarah C. TAOS DISTRICT COURT

Stale Session

 

[Niner]

Hujrah:

Register of Actions Activity
Event Date Event Description Event Result Party Type Party # Amount
08/08/2018 CLS: DISMISSED WITHOUT PREJUDICE
08/08/2018 NTC: Notice of Dismissal
Notice of Dismissal of Felony Criminal Compliant
08/07/2018 PROBABLE CAUSE DETERMINATION / FOUND
08/06/2018 WAR: PHYSICAL WARRANT RETURNED
08/06/2018 OPN: CRIMINAL COMPLAINT FILED

link: Stale Session

Register of Actions Activity
Event Date Event Description Event Result Party Type Party # Amount
08/08/2018 AMENDED NOTICE
Amended Notice of Hearing (Arraignment is scheduled for August 8, 2018 at 2:30 pm)
08/08/2018 ORD: DETENTION/ ARRAIGNMENT
Arraignment Order (To be held without bond pending hearing)
08/08/2018 NTC: OF HEARING
August 13, 2018 at 12:45 pm - State's Expedited Motion for Pretrial Detention / No Bond Hold
08/08/2018 NTC: OF HEARING
August 8, 2018 at 1:00 pm - Arraignment on Criminal Complaint
08/08/2018 OPN: CRIMINAL INFORMATION / COMPLAINT P 1
Count 1-11: Abuse of a Child (Does Not Result in Death or Great Bodily Harm)
08/08/2018 REQUEST FOR HEARING/ SETTING P 1
Request for Setting (Matter to be Heard: State's Expedited Motion for Pretrial Detention/No Bond Hold)
08/08/2018 MTN: for Pretrial Preventive Detention
State's Expedited Motion for Pretrial Detention/No Bond Hold

Hearings for this Case
Hearing Date Hearing Time Hearing Type Hearing Judge Court
08/13/2018 12:45 PM DETENTION HEARING Chavez, Emilio J.
TAOS DISTRICT COURT

link: Stale Session

 

[Niner]

under Subhannan:

Register of Actions Activity
Event Date Event Description Event Result Party Type Party # Amount
08/08/2018 CLS: DISMISSED WITHOUT PREJUDICE
08/08/2018 NTC: Notice of Dismissal P 1
Notice of Dismissal of Felony Criminal Complaint
08/07/2018 PROBABLE CAUSE DETERMINATION / FOUND
08/06/2018 WAR: PHYSICAL WARRANT RETURNED
08/06/2018 OPN: CRIMINAL COMPLAINT FILED


now under Subhannah:

Register of Actions Activity
Event Date Event Description Event Result Party Type Party # Amount
08/08/2018 NTC: OF HEARING
Amended Notice of Hearing (August 8, 2018 at 2:30 pm - Arraignment)
08/08/2018 ORD: DETENTION/ ARRAIGNMENT
Hold Without Bond Pending Hearing
08/08/2018 NTC: OF HEARING
August 13, 2018 at 12:45 - State's Expedited Motion for Pretrial Detention / No Bond Hold
08/08/2018 NTC: OF HEARING
August 8, 2018 at 1:00 pm - Arraignment on Criminal Complaint
08/08/2018 OPN: CRIMINAL INFORMATION / COMPLAINT
Criminal Complaint (The State of New Mexico charges the Defendant Subhannah Wahhaj with 11 counts of Abuse of a Child (Does not Result in Death or Great Bodily Harm)
08/08/2018 REQUEST FOR HEARING/ SETTING P 1
Request for Setting (Matter to be Heard: State's Expedited Motion for Pretrial Detention/No Bond Hold)
08/08/2018 MTN: for Pretrial Preventive Detention
State's Expedited Motion for Pretrial Detention/No Bond Hold

Hearings for this Case
Hearing Date Hearing Time Hearing Type Hearing Judge Court Court Room
08/13/2018 12:45 PM DETENTION HEARING Chavez, Emilio J. TAOS DISTRICT COURT

 

[Niner]

Morton - Harboring or Aiding a felony charge:

Event Result Party Type Party # Amount
08/08/2018 CLS: DISMISSED WITHOUT PREJUDICE
08/08/2018 NTC: Notice of Dismissal
Notice of Dismissal of Felony Criminal Complaint
08/07/2018 PROBABLE CAUSE DETERMINATION / FOUND
08/06/2018 STATEMENT OF PROBABLE CAUSE
08/06/2018 OPN: CRIMINAL COMPLAINT FILED

11 counts of child abuse:
Register of Actions Activity
Event Date Event Description Event Result Party Type Party # Amount
08/08/2018 CLS: DISMISSED WITHOUT PREJUDICE
08/08/2018 NTC: Notice of Dismissal P 1
Notice of Dismissal of Felony Criminal Complaint
08/07/2018 PROBABLE CAUSE DETERMINATION / FOUND
08/06/2018 WAR: PHYSICAL WARRANT RETURNED
08/06/2018 PROBABLE CAUSE DETERMINATION / FOUND D 1
08/06/2018 OPN: CRIMINAL COMPLAINT FILED
Criminal Compliant and Affidavit for Arrest Warrant



Nothing else re-filed yet.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Man at New Mexico compound is accused of training kids for school attacks

Wahhaj was conducting weapons training with assault rifles at the compound.

 

[bears10]

That's where the trooper finds Wahhaj, Lucas Morten and seven children in the car. Wahhaj tells the trooper they are going on a camping trip to New Mexico. The trooper finds ammunition, and guns, but no camping gear.

At the time, there was no Amber Alert issued for Abdul, because his mother and father are still married and share joint custody. Instead, a pick-up order was issued, which is only made available to local law enforcement.

So, the trooper let them go. This was the first missed opportunity.

Finally, on Aug. 2, police received images of texts sent from one of the women on the compound, stating they were starving and in need of food and water.

Several missed opportunities in search for missing boy, dad captured in New Mexico

 

[Gardenista]

I'm having trouble with the family tree. Were any of the women who were arrested actual siblings to SIW? I'm seeing supporters of the group on FB calling the women sisters, but I can't figure out if that's a real thing or a Muslim thing.