I did ask Timothy if he ever had any physical contact with these boys and if he ever picked them up and tickled them.
Timothy said it was highly likely that he would have. Timothy said it was a playful environment, like he wanted. However, Timothy said that the dad, Ronald, would make SL and VL hug him, and he didn't really want them to.
I did ask Timothy what the protocol was for touching children and picking them up and touching them? I also asked if that was allowed? Timothy initially said, "It's not allowed at all. There is no, there's no protocol. I mean, I'm always around people, right? Uh, uh, uh, it would be, it would be, you know, in front of the parents. There would never be a weird moment about it. I don' really remember picking those boys up. Uh, I remember picking up the boy who followed them. I'd pick him up, and he'd be giggling, and that would sort of get him ready to act." Timothy then stated, "I don't remember those boys. No, I don‘t, I don't actually, I don't remember it, it, if it happened, I don't remember overtly tickling the boys ever, but it wouldn't be uncommon for me."