NM NM - Albuquerque, WhtMale, early 20's, struck by train, mutton chops, name Jack Doss/J.V Doss sewn into clothes, Oct'77

[heartanium]

NAMUS UP138202
Unidentified Male
Location Found: Albuquerque, New Mexico
Date Found: October 20, 1977

Race: White / Caucasian
PMI: Unknown
Estimated year of Death: Unknown
Estimated Age: Adult
Height: 5' 7"(67 inches) , Measured
Weight: 158 lbs, Measured
Hair: Blond/Strawberry or Red/Auburn, partial chin beard and mustache
Eye Color: Gray
Clothing: Unknown
Circumstances: Subject stepped directly onto track and in front of oncoming train.

Condition of Remains: Unknown
Inventory of Remains: Unknown

Agency Info:
ME/C Case Number: 1977-07052

Bernalillo County Sheriff's Department - (505) 468-7100
Agency Number: Unknown

0 Exclusions

Case Media:

"Track Walker Killed by Train," Albuquerque Journal, October 21, 1977, pg 2.

"A man walking down the center of a railroad track was struck and killed Thursday night by a Santa Fe Railway freight train several miles south of Albuquerque."

"The victim, a man in his early 20s, was hit near Desert and Second SW, south of Rio Bravo."

"The engineer said the man was walking down the center of the tracks...He said it looked like the man was trying to put his foot up on the train and climb aboard."

"Arm Severed, Reattached," Carlsbad Current-Argus, October 23, 1977, pg 10.

"Man's Identity Still Unknown," Albuquerque Journal, October 26, 1977, pg 6.

"[The victim] is in his mid 20's, about 5-foot-8, 160 pounds, has bright red hair and red mutton-chops sideburns."

"The names Jack Doss and J.V Doss were sewn on the tags in the dead man's clothing."

"We've called the Dosses in the city directory and their relatives in California and no one seems to know who this is."

 

[victoriarobinson642]

Is there any specific reason they think he was from California?

 

[Tower]

Is there any specific reason they think he was from California?

I think they called some local New Mexico Dosses and those people’s relatives in California. Before the internet, it was probably harder to find all the Dosses who could know this man. Jmo

 

[lolz]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
Harold Hiram Covey? Fits the description although not from cali and a long way from new mexico

 

[Tower]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
Harold Hiram Covey? Fits the description although not from cali and a long way from new mexico

Good match. He had plenty of time to get from Michigan to New Mexico.

 

[heartanium]

Is there any specific reason they think he was from California?

No particular reason mentioned that I could find. I'm thining maybe the Doss's from New Mexico mentioned they had family in California and thats why LE reached out to them.

 

[lolz]

MI - MI - Harold Covey, 20, Oscoda, 23 Dec 1976
Harold does have a thread already, if you'd like to read more about his case

 

[M M cowley Doss]

MI - MI - Harold Covey, 20, Oscoda, 23 Dec 1976
Harold does have a thread already, if you'd like to read more about his case

I know who this person is. He’s my brother in-law. He went missing from boarding school in Charlottesville, VA. He had bright Red hair, gray blue eyes, was 5’8” and about the same weight as reported. I contacted Albuquerque Sheriff’s office today. His mother sewed in to all of the kids clothe their name in their shirt their initials in their pants before they left for camp or boarding school. His mother had died before he went missing but his father James Valentine Doss sent a detective out to Washington when he disappeared. Jack’s father is also now deceased but it would mean a lot to the family and his dear friends to know if Jack died in 1977. The thought of him suffering or being posted upon for years is something I’d like to help stop. I know because of his very distinct features and his name being sewn into his clothes it’s him but I have to be certain before I give this information to the one family member left that I can trust will handle it with tact.

 

[M M cowley Doss]

No particular reason mentioned that I could find. I'm thining maybe the Doss's from New Mexico mentioned they had family in California and thats why LE reached out to them.

 

[M M cowley Doss]

See below entry by Millicent Vowley Doss information about Jack V Doss - I know this is my brother in-law.

 

[M M cowley Doss]

Please if anyone knows how I can provide the proper information to the deputy in NM please let me know. I’ve never been on this site but I’m trying to help people that loved Jack V Doss to know what really happened as certain cruel people have claimed they’ve seen and talked to him.

 

[Andreee]

Please if anyone knows how I can provide the proper information to the deputy in NM please let me know. I’ve never been on this site but I’m trying to help people that loved Jack V Doss to know what really happened as certain cruel people have claimed they’ve seen and talked to him.

Glad you posted this! I'm glad you contacted local authorities in New Mexico law enforcement in Albuquerque. Perhaps other websleuthers can help you also. Please let us know how things go with this!

 

[Mert]

Bernalillo County Sheriff's Department​

Address 401 Roma NW Albuquerque, New Mexico 87102
CountyBernalillo County
Main Phone (505)468-7100
General Email--
Website URL



Info from the original post, NAMUS link.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

I assume you have called the number or tried the website link.

Edit* I got an odd message from the link Namus shows.

I found this link via google to send a message. I hope you persistent, calling and sending messages!

https://www.bernco.gov/contact-us/

It sounds very promising and wonderful to help in this manner. Good luck.

 

[lolz]

Please if anyone knows how I can provide the proper information to the deputy in NM please let me know. I’ve never been on this site but I’m trying to help people that loved Jack V Doss to know what really happened as certain cruel people have claimed they’ve seen and talked to him.

I hope you and your family are able to get closure after nearly 50 years. It's a very long time without answers.

 

[M M cowley Doss]

Glad you posted this! I'm glad you contacted local authorities in New Mexico law enforcement in Albuquerque. Perhaps other websleuthers can help you also. Please let us know how things go with this!

Thank you - I’ve now contacted ORI- UNM as the detective advised. I’m just waiting on his exact birth date

 

[M M cowley Doss]

I hope you and your family are able to get closure after nearly 50 years. It's a very long time without answers.

Thanks so much - I’m hopeful.

 

[M M cowley Doss]

Bernalillo County Sheriff's Department​

Address 401 Roma NW Albuquerque, New Mexico 87102
CountyBernalillo County
Main Phone (505)468-7100
General Email--
Website URL



Info from the original post, NAMUS link.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

I assume you have called the number or tried the website link.

Edit* I got an odd message from the link Namus shows.

I found this link via google to send a message. I hope you persistent, calling and sending messages!

https://www.bernco.gov/contact-us/

It sounds very promising and wonderful to help in this manner. Good luck.

I have now been referred to medical examiner and I did talk to a very helpful detective from missing persons in Albuquerque.

 

[Andreee]

I have now been referred to medical examiner and I did talk to a very helpful detective from missing persons in Albuquerque.

Thanks for the update! When you get confirmation, be sure and let us know and we can get the moderators here to update this case. Amazing if this is resolved after all this time!

 

[M M cowley Doss]

Bernalillo County Sheriff's Department​

Address 401 Roma NW Albuquerque, New Mexico 87102
CountyBernalillo County
Main Phone (505)468-7100
General Email--
Website URL



Info from the original post, NAMUS link.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

I assume you have called the number or tried the website link.

Edit* I got an odd message from the link Namus shows.

I found this link via google to send a message. I hope you persistent, calling and sending messages!

https://www.bernco.gov/contact-us/

It sounds very promising and wonderful to help in this manner. Good luck.

What was odd about the message? I’ve found speaking to people at the sheriffs department and a missing persons investigator, the medical examiner at UNM to be the most direct way to approach this matter. When I go to websites they either need vague information, want my information and or for me to pay fees. The sheriffs office knows the NAMUS case number and the other case information. Once they were given his case number - it was pretty straightforward.

 

[The4TierBridge]

What was odd about the message? I’ve found speaking to people at the sheriffs department and a missing persons investigator, the medical examiner at UNM to be the most direct way to approach this matter. When I go to websites they either need vague information, want my information and or for me to pay fees. The sheriffs office knows the NAMUS case number and the other case information. Once they were given his case number - it was pretty straightforward.

I believe they’re talking about this. I got it too.