GUILTY NM - Jesus Acosta-Contreras, Roberta Marquez-Chavez, child abuse, Albuquerque, 2011

[hollyblue]

Local dispatchers touched by the children:

http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/crime/dispatchers-helping-abused-girls

 

[Quiche]

I didn't think anyone was cutting her that much slack. Like I said,it ended up an editorial. The excuses are always the same, that's what I was getting at. "i didn't know how to be a mother" or "I was abused growing up" or "I was overwhelmed." or "I was an addict." I'm just sick of the excuses, and they seem to be the same old tired ones day after day. I was more responding to the welfare part of your post, krkrjx. It's a sad reality that sometimes it really is the welfare check. That's why they keep the kids even knowing that they suck at this parenting gig.

It's taken me a long time to accept that some people are just mean AND (errrr) have a low IQ. A lethal mix, imo. Prisons are made for folks like these and I hope they never experience a moment of freedom ever again!

I pray these little ones can overcome the horrible circumstances from which they've been rescued-- let them be soothed and comforted every step of the way toward health and happiness. rayer:

 

[MorenoI]

Horrible! I am soooooooooo sick of " I was scared of him" BS! Really just scared for yourself?? what about your babies??? JMO

 

[cluciano63]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45807503/ns/local_news-albuquerque_nm/

Police still seeking the boyfriend...I checked local news sites and it seems they have not yet found him...

http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S2430804.shtml?cat=500

 

[mysticrose]

This man is a coward and needs to step up, turn himself in. Better yet I hope LE finds him and he runs so they can taser him and beat the snot out of him for a few minutes That would make my day ...

 

[mysticrose]

Community shows outpouring support for Albuquerque girls found in bathtub


Two girls who were found naked and abused in a bathtub are out of the hospital and in foster care, Children Youth and Families Department officials said.

The Albuquerque Police Department said donations from the community have been delivered to the children.

APD said it received so many donations that it will be able to give items to other children subject to child abuse

http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S2433996.shtml?cat=516

 

[mysticrose]

Wanted ,Jesus Acosta-Contreras

http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S2430804.shtml?cat=500

 

[not_my_kids]

The way I see it, even if you were a lifelong victim of abuse, you know that it hurts to be hungry, you know that it hurts to be beaten, and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that being stabbed is pretty painful too. Abuse breaks your soul, but if you allow it to remain broken, and you repeat the cycle, you lose your victim title in my eyes, and become nothing but another perp.

Even if you spent the last several years of your life waiting for the next fix, who cares? Not I. Unless someone tied you down and held the needle in your vein or the pipe to your mouth, you made that choice, and likewise, all further choices related to your addiction. Every addict makes a choice every time they use. It might not be a conscious choice, but it is a choice, and it is theirs alone.

SO, yes, the reasons behind abuse need to be examined. And as I see it, the reason is that some people are too lazy to rise above their raising. If you were beaten as a child, you know there is a better way. No one lives their lives in a vacuum. Especially if they have had children. They know there are options to addiction, to abuse, but they are too lazy and broken to seek them out, to get creative, to prove that their lives were not wasted by the way they were raised.

Excuses, all of it. You were abused, you were starved, you were on drugs? Tough. So was I. And yet, my kids aren't beaten, they don't go hungry, and I quit using for them. Anyone else that CHOOSES not to do the same is guilty. Period. MOO. And as far as second chances, the mother got a second chance when she left the home where she had been raised, if in fact there was any abuse to her as a child.

She saw nothing wrong with her actions...nothing wrong with allowing a man to leave her beaten, starved, burned, and stabbed children in a bathtub. That's not a problem with drugs, that's an intentional smothering of all maternal instinct and desire to be a functional human. I'm glad that she's behind bars and I hope she stays there.

Now, all they have to do is catch Jesus, and I'll be as happy as a pig in slop.

 

[Belinda]

Totally excellent post, not my kids.

 

[Belinda]

When Roberta Marquez-Chavez faced a judge Monday, she asked him why she was being charged, claiming she did nothing wrong. The judge disagreed. He said there was more than enough evidence to keep her behind bars. He set her bail at $100,000 cash surety.

BBM - Totally unbelivable. How can this woman honestly think she did nothing wrong? It boggles the mind. Good on the judge for slapping her with a huge bond. It's about time judges starting taking these cases seriously and targeting all the people involved. I'm sick to death of the mothers walking away from these cases.

 

[not_my_kids]

A woman arrested on Christmas Eve in connection with the severe abuse and neglect of her 3- and 5-year- old daughters also has an 11-month-old child who does not appear to have been abused.

http://www.abqjournal.com/main/2011/12/29/news/abuse-suspect-has-3rd-child.html

Every excuse goes out the window. You can't blame drugs or your upbringing, if you are able to care for/protect one of your kids, but not the other two. And the same thing goes for Jesus. If you can keep from abusing one of the kids half to death, you can keep from abusing all three.

 

[Lovejac]

A woman arrested on Christmas Eve in connection with the severe abuse and neglect of her 3- and 5-year- old daughters also has an 11-month-old child who does not appear to have been abused.

http://www.abqjournal.com/main/2011/12/29/news/abuse-suspect-has-3rd-child.html

Every excuse goes out the window. You can't blame drugs or your upbringing, if you are able to care for/protect one of your kids, but not the other two. And the same thing goes for Jesus. If you can keep from abusing one of the kids half to death, you can keep from abusing all three.

I cant open that link, but I'm assuming that child was unscathed because possibly he is Jesus' biological child. I also wonder if that baby is a male.

No excuse.

 

[not_my_kids]

I cant open that link, but I'm assuming that child was unscathed because possibly he is Jesus' biological child. I also wonder if that baby is a male.

No excuse.

THat's what I was thinking. The youngest is "their" child instead of just "her" child, and was given special treatment because of it. As if that wouldn't screw the kids up even more...realizing that they were being hurt because they weren't "special" like the baby.

Although I am glad that at least one person survived these monsters without too much harm.

 

[LCoastMom]

This article calls Contreras the girls father:

Albuquerque police are still looking for the father of two girls who were found naked, beaten and starving in the family bathtub last week.

http://www.kob.com/article/stories/S2430804.shtml?cat=500

 

[LCoastMom]

A grand jury indicted Roberta Marquez-Chavez , 19, on 15 counts in the alleged abuse of her daughters, ages 3 and 5.

The girls were found malnourished and living in a bath tub with a total of more than twenty fractures combined between them.

Police are still seeking her boyfriend, Jesus Acosta-Contreras, 28, who is on the run.

http://www.kob.com/article/stories/s2452059.shtml

She's been indicted on child abuse charges. Attempted murder sounds more accurate.

 

[JeannaT]

BBM - Totally unbelivable. How can this woman honestly think she did nothing wrong? It boggles the mind. Good on the judge for slapping her with a huge bond. It's about time judges starting taking these cases seriously and targeting all the people involved. I'm sick to death of the mothers walking away from these cases.

I'm interested in your comment. In my observation, mothers usually get stiffer sentences than boyfriends who maim the kids, and in many cases, torture the kids to death.

The mothers, who stood by and did nothing to protect their children, are treated more harshly, IMHO, than men who do the actual crime.

Some people agree with that, saying the mother is responsible for the kids and the boyfriend isn't, but I think the one who actually commits the crime - not the one who simply doesn't prevent it - should be held to a bigger penalty.

P.S. The one glimmer of hope in this story is the kids are alive and apparently will recover physically. So often this horror doesn't come to light until at least one child is dead. Kudos to the neighbor for acting quickly.

 

[Belinda]

I'm interested in your comment. In my observation, mothers usually get stiffer sentences than boyfriends who maim the kids, and in many cases, torture the kids to death.

The mothers, who stood by and did nothing to protect their children, are treated more harshly, IMHO, than men who do the actual crime.

Some people agree with that, saying the mother is responsible for the kids and the boyfriend isn't, but I think the one who actually commits the crime - not the one who simply doesn't prevent it - should be held to a bigger penalty.

P.S. The one glimmer of hope in this story is the kids are alive and apparently will recover physically. So often this horror doesn't come to light until at least one child is dead. Kudos to the neighbor for acting quickly.

I've seen many, many cases in my research where the mother was not charged at all. Further, even when they were, the sentence was a pittance. I've done a lot of research on child abuse cases and this is just what I have found. It may simply depend on the state it occurs in.

 

[JeannaT]

Thanks for your reply, Belinda. I'm not just idly curious here - I've done a lot of research too on child abuse cases, and I don't think I've ever seen a case where the mother knowingly stood by and allowed her children to be killed by a boyfriend, and the mother wasn't at least charged in the death, and usually treated more harshly in sentencing.

A few cases come to mind, specifically one here in Austin Texas around 1994, I'm wracking my brain trying to think of their names. The mother was in another room putting on her makeup, when her then live in boyfriend (named Greg Z) beat her toddler son to death in the bathroom. She sits in prison, and he (I don't believe) ever saw the inside of a jail cell to this day although the facts are not in dispute about what happened and who was responsible.

In the case of Nixmary Brown, the murderer boyfriend was given 25 years in prison, and the mother, who did nothing to help, got 43 years.

I don't want to derail this thread, but am truly curious about cases where a mother knowingly stood by while her boyfriend murdered her child, and she was not charged at all. (Lisa Steinberg aside, they were a long time married couple and the mother had previously had all the bones broken in her face by that monster Joel Steinberg).

Thanks -

 

[Rayemonde]

October 2014 - mother pleads guilty to child abandonment.

APD says the girls, who were three and five at the time, had 20 broken bones between them.

http://krqe.com/2014/10/03/woman-pleads-guilty-to-child-abandonment/

 

[Rayemonde]

February 2015 - sentenced to 5 years.

Marquez-Chavez blamed her boyfriend, Jesus Acosta-Contreras, who has been on the run since. She told police she didn't report him because she was afraid of him.

http://m.koat.com/news/kids-in-bathtub-case-mother-sentenced-to-5-years/31481974


Roberta Marquez-Chavez