NM NM - Taos, WhtFem 21-51, UP146825, skull in property, Canadian passport for female, March 2025 (Fiana Kim D. Scarlet Haarsma)

[Virtualanomaly]

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2. The 1970 birthdate comes from the only located record of a Fiana Haarsma, which suggests she was born in April 1970 and lived close to Taos, New Mexico (hence the assumption that it may be the same woman). Of course, this would make her 55 this year, so it falls outside the suggested age range for the doe.
   
   I'm finding it difficult to determine the age of the woman in the passport photo, especially since no further details have been provided. I would say the woman in the photo genuinely looks like she could be in her early 30s to late 40s, depending on how you look at it, but how old is the actual passport? The hair and other features don't immediately scream one specific era, so this could be a passport photo from this year or it could be from 20 years ago and out of date. I agree that it is odd/frustrating that more details have not been released especially as a passport would have quite significant identifying info on it.
   
   Also, perhaps most notable, is the fact that we're all operating on the assumption that the passport belongs to the woman whose skull was found. Not only might the passport be a fake, but it may also not be the identity of the doe and/or the holder may be otherwise involved in the case

   Have you found any death record for a Fiana Haarsma or any records she might have returned to Canada? I was thinking maybe the doe is a daughter of Fiana Haarsma and had her passport for whatever reason.

 

[Snoopster]

Probably a dumb question, but the reporting neighbour said they hadn't seen their neighbour for a couple of years. But what wasn't said in the missing persons case report was whether the neighbour LOOKED like the person in the passport photo.

 

[CastleCat16]

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   Have you found any death record for a Fiana Haarsma or any records she might have returned to Canada? I was thinking maybe the doe is a daughter of Fiana Haarsma and had her passport for whatever reason.

I've found quite literally no other records of a fiana haarsma existing bar that one. makes me think its most likely a name change and her birth name is kim. (fiana is also quite a rare Irish name so not exactly common in the US or Canada which further makes me think this may be a chosen new name situation)

the only record for fiana also doesn't mention Canada at all. just says residence is el prado which again makes me think name change

 

[CastleCat16]

Probably a dumb question, but the reporting neighbour said they hadn't seen their neighbour for a couple of years. But what wasn't said in the missing persons case report was whether the neighbour LOOKED like the person in the passport photo.

agree, it's really unclear if (1) the skull is believed to be the neighbour they hadn't heard from and (2) if the passport belonged to the neighbour. There's a lot of holes in the info currently available

 

[Aurora90]

She implied she went with someone to that. Air bnb. I wonder who it was?

That plus the door found ripped open makes me worried this might be a homicide?

 

[CastleCat16]

Managed to find a newspaper article which mentions Kim and brother Todd (kids of Ken and Joyce Haarsma). It suggests Kim was 10 in 1980, which would match perfectly with the Fiana K. Haarsma born April 1970 record. Calgary Herald from Calgary, Alberta, Canada [on the webpage the last name looks mispelled but it is spelled as haarsma on the document itself]

 

[CastleCat16]

I think I will contact NM police and possibly RCMP and send my tip their way. I think this is Catrina Haarsma. or at the very least is a descendant of Mr and Mrs Aga Haarsma and one of their three sons.

Managed to find Bob Haarsma's wife's obituary where Catrina is spelt as Caitriona, and through another family member's facebook worked out that Catrina/Caitriona is married and her last name is Merkley so I don't think this is her. I'm currently looking into Bob Haarsma's living brother Ken Haarsma, who apparently has a daughter called Kim (I can find basically no record of Ken, his wife, or his two children anywhere other than one newspaper which indicates Kim was born c.1970)

 

[The4TierBridge]

I've found quite literally no other records of a fiana haarsma existing bar that one. makes me think its most likely a name change and her birth name is kim. (fiana is also quite a rare Irish name so not exactly common in the US or Canada which further makes me think this may be a chosen new name situation)

the only record for fiana also doesn't mention Canada at all. just says residence is el prado which again makes me think name change

Not trying to insult a dead lady or anybody else in this thread, but I feel like that lack of public records lines up very well with a person nobody noticed was dead for 2 years.

Not that possible name changes and immigration wouldn't contribute to that, but she would probably have been hard to trace even without those.

 

[Beekarina]

The 1970 birthdate comes from the only located record of a Fiana Haarsma, which suggests she was born in April 1970 and lived close to Taos, New Mexico (hence the assumption that it may be the same woman). Of course, this would make her 55 this year, so it falls outside the suggested age range for the doe.

I'm finding it difficult to determine the age of the woman in the passport photo, especially since no further details have been provided. I would say the woman in the photo genuinely looks like she could be in her early 30s to late 40s, depending on how you look at it, but how old is the actual passport? The hair and other features don't immediately scream one specific era, so this could be a passport photo from this year or it could be from 20 years ago and out of date. I agree that it is odd/frustrating that more details have not been released especially as a passport would have quite significant identifying info on it.

Also, perhaps most notable, is the fact that we're all operating on the assumption that the passport belongs to the woman whose skull was found. Not only might the passport be a fake, but it may also not be the identity of the doe and/or the holder may be otherwise involved in the case

While the earrings are kind of generic hippie, they were very popular in the 1990s.

So, if she was born in 1970, it could be a passport photo taken around 2000 or so. We have no information about the age of the passport, but we are assuming it is old or fake based on her smiling in the photo, right? So to me, I think her being 55 now could be correct. She kept an old passport.

JMO.

 

[Beekarina]

To add.. another website mentions Fiana S

Strange the date is October 2024.....If the review is for the same property, or something nearby (?) was someone logged into her account and leaving random reviews to make it seem as if she was still alive last fall?

I'm thinking of the neighbor who said they had not seen her in "two years", but perhaps that was an exaggeration?

 

[wmm85]

The Canadian passport is definitely an older one. She is smiling in the photo, and smiling in Canadian passport photos was disallowed sometime in the early 2000s. Since then, a person being photographed for a Canadian passport must have a "neutral" expression. Also, Canada didn't get 10 year passports until 2013. They were only valid for a maximum of 5 years prior to that.

 

[Romulus]

 

[Aurora90]

The Canadian passport is definitely an older one. She is smiling in the photo, and smiling in Canadian passport photos was disallowed sometime in the early 2000s. Since then, a person being photographed for a Canadian passport must have a "neutral" expression. Also, Canada didn't get 10 year passports until 2013. They were only valid for a maximum of 5 years prior to that.

I was just about to say this. Smiling is not allowed since I wanna say around 2002? I had to get a new passport then and the rule was new when I was a teen.

 

[SluethinAway]

agree, it's really unclear if (1) the skull is believed to be the neighbour they hadn't heard from and (2) if the passport belonged to the neighbour. There's a lot of holes in the info currently available

I agree. We have more information than some UIDs with a name but I am coming up completely dry on finding any info on her.
If they really want the publics help, we're going to need a little more than that

 

[Beekarina]

I was so sure she was a descendant of Mr and Mrs Aga Haarsma from Saskatchewan. They had 3 sons, Kenneth, Ronald, and Robert.

I also found this:

HUGHES-HAARSMA

Elizabeth Ann Hughes and Kenneth Chiam Haarsma were married July 21 at El Pueblito United Methodist Church in Taos, N.M. The bride, daughter of Dr. and Mrs. Jesse Hughes of Hampton, is a graduate o…

www.dailypress.com

I was even more convinced when I saw the obit for brother Robert Haarsma and saw he had a daughter named Catrina whom I can find no record of. Their likeness to each other is strong.

https://battlefordsnow.com/listing/robert-peter-haarsma/

Robert Haarsma and Jane Doe
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I tried to add color, and have to say I think you are definitely on to something here. Hope they look into a possible family connection.

It is far from perfect/natural, but gave it a go....

 

[CastleCat16]

I tried to add color, and have to say I think you are definitely on to something here. Hope they look into a possible family connection.

It is far from perfect/natural, but gave it a go....View attachment 602074

I agree that she's likely a descendent of this pair but don't think she's this brother's kid; I think she's a daughter of the third and only living brother, Ken. That would explain the facial similarities between other members of the family who can be found online but why she wasn't mentioned in either of the other brother's obits.

Great work on the colourisation though!

 

[Aurora90]

She's certainly related to him. I went digging and found all the obits plus the record of Ken in Taos. I just couldn't find a record of Ken's children that's why I thought she was Robert's child. I feel certain this is probably being worked by LE. I wonder if they need to actually confirm via dna to be certain?

 

[CastleCat16]

She's certainly related to him. I went digging and found all the obits plus the record of Ken in Taos. I just couldn't find a record of Ken's children that's why I thought she was Robert's child. I feel certain this is probably being worked by LE. I wonder if they need to actually confirm via dna to be certain?

There are no records of Ken's kids on sites such as FamilySearch, unfortunately (although there is also no record of Ken or his wife on such sites which is unusual). I only know Ken exists from the obits and found out that his daughter is called Kim from a website created by members of the Stonehouse family (their mother's side of the family). I then located another news article mentioning the kids, which provided their ages in 1980.

I agree in assuming LE has to have already established this link using information on the passport and records we can't publicly access and they aren't releasing further updates at this time until a positive match can be made. But for non-LE, trying to find traces of this entire branch of the family online is virtually impossible; it's like they've all completely vanished (as in not even any of the other brothers' children seem to have a connection with either parents or children on social media either). All round quite an odd situation.

 

[Trexxy]

I did find this info, but it’s not a lot.

 

[NervousNellie]

Okay, I'm going to try this again.

The circumstances of recovery from the original post include a couple of items I haven't seen discussed yet:

Circumstances of Recovery: Neighbor was walking on neighboring property and found skull, properties miles apart; hadn't seen female neighbor in 2 years; trailer door ripped/wide open; journal found outside complaining of neighbor, Canadian passport for female found outside

Is the neighbor that found the skull the same neighbor that was complained about in the found journal? Was the neighbor trespassing because they hadn't seen the female neighbor, or were they just trespassing? What were the complaints in the journal? Trespassing?

How long did it seem the found items had been outside? How long had the skull been outside.

Is it possible Fiana's name change(s) came with significant lifestyle change(s)?