NM - Tera Chavez, 26, found dead in her Los Lunas home, 22 Oct 2007 - #1

[NCEast]

I do not buy this experts facts.

I would never blow my head off if I decided to commit suicide!

Nor would I. I would never, ever do anything so horrible that any member of my family would have to walk in on.
Pills would be my method of choice. I hope and pray my life never reaches that point.

 

[NCEast]

I've been booted twice in the last 20 minutes or so.

 

[calamityjane831]

This expert has some very good information and I will give him that. I just feel like yes these passages are taken out of context and the statistics and the clinical information is broad and can be manipulated to fit Tera. Yes and he is paid to be here and that matters to me.

 

[calamityjane831]

9:41 AMAnna V @Anna_Velasquez
MORNING RECESS #levichavez

 

[NCEast]

This expert has some very good information and I will give him that. I just feel like yes these passages are taken out of context and the statistics and the clinical information is broad and can be manipulated to fit Tera. Yes and he is paid to be here and that matters to me.

You are right. He may be an expert in suicides but the information he's giving isn't pertaining to this particular case. It's like you said, too broad and general, he could be talking about any case.
I feel for Tera's parents as I know hearing all of this is stabbing a hole in their hearts and souls. I pray they know this man is just blowing smoke, but her journal entries and texts are her own, and it is bound to hurt them horribly to realize how sad their daughter was.

 

[NCEast]

I have been googling suicide by women and the majority are with handguns. I am very surprised at this statistic.


Dang, it didn't print out on here like I copied it so I thought I deleted it. At any rate, handguns were the number one method for men and women in the U.S. Very surprising to me.

 

[Celeskitty]

I have been googling suicide by women and the majority are with handguns. I am very surprised at this statistic.

Dang, it didn't print out on here like I copied it so I thought I deleted it. At any rate, handguns were the number one method for men and women in the U.S. Very surprising to me.

Its an efficient way to do it, if done properly. I don't condone suicide. Unfortunately, a website I checked suggested the best way is at the temple or in the mouth and lastly at the forehead.

I don't see anywhere in her diary or messages she talks about suicide. Lots of people wish they could disappear. She wrote that years before she died. I don't see how she could leave her kids like that. Also, it would be interesting to know if she was catholic or not.

 

[ChubbyCheeks]

Yes the PT has talked about it before, Aaron Jones talked about it. IMHO the PT has been threading through out the 2 weeks very strong damming evidence but they are very straightforward and matter of fact about it and I hope like NCEast mentioned earlier in the thread hopefully the PT will take their threads and sew them together for the jury in closing... on the other hand DT Serna has to be like a crazy male peacock with his colored ruffled feathers all over the place to distract the jury and who knows it just may work and that is scary because then IMO there is a killer on the loose. For all I know LC could and might go home every night and reads this thread.

Today the notes from Tera was a shock but it is best for the PT to put everything forward. It is best practice to not be on the defense (no pun intended). I just hope what Thunder mentioned up thread is that somehow the PT can bring those notes around. I pray for justice for Tera and her family but I am preparing myself for any outcome even though I will be so so very sad but after the Casey Anthony trial I never let myself feel like that again. I was literally crushed and spent the rest of the summer recovering.

BBM
Agreed. Her getting away with such a gruesome murder of her own child is still something I cannot come to terms with. I stayed away from this board (and others) until the JA trial as I just couldn't bear getting invested in another trial. I'll never get that emotionally involved in another one, ever.

 

[NCEast]

Its an efficient way to do it, if done properly. I don't condone suicide. Unfortunately, a website I checked suggested the best way is at the temple or in the mouth and lastly at the forehead.

I don't see anywhere in her diary or messages she talks about suicide. Lots of people wish they could disappear. She wrote that years before she died. I don't see how she could leave her kids like that. Also, it would be interesting to know if she was catholic or not.

You bring up a good point about her religion. I hope the prosecution will bring it out somehow--especially if she was Catholic. They absolutely do not look at suicide lightly.

 

[ChubbyCheeks]

Good Morning Everyone. I am right there praying with you NCEast. According to LinkdIn and as much as I could find on him Bryan McKay is one of the lead attorneys for the DA's office and has been a prosecutor for quite a while so maybe this is the best the state has to give the Cordova family and the people of New Mexico. I am sending that PT all the prayers I can muster up.

Thanks for this info CJ; it's good to know Mr. McKay is a lead attorney so he must know what he's doing [obviously!]. I need to stop comparing all prosecutors to Juan! I'm not being fair to all the others who are much lower key, which is probably pretty much everyone else. My apologies to the State of NM for being biased!

 

[ChubbyCheeks]

Yall already know how I complain about gaining weight during these trials, and I do--usually from 7 to 10 pounds for about a 3 week trial. I usually don't move away from my desktop computer for anything so I can absorb each and every aspect. My doctor put me on prednisone yesterday so I'll probably end up gaining 30 by the time this one's over. I took my first pill about 2 hours ago and I declare I can already tell a difference. Yall just don't crack open the potato chip bag so I can hear it, it's going to be Dt. Mt. Dew and celery for me for the next month.

:floorlaugh:

Ooops, NC, the laughing is not for your need for prednisone! I hope you're feeling better in no time. But, your comments about hearing the opening of potato chip bags made me chuckle...

 

[NCEast]

Thanks for this info CJ; it's good to know Mr. McKay is a lead attorney so he must know what he's doing [obviously!]. I need to stop comparing all prosecutors to Juan! I'm not being fair to all the others who are much lower key, which is probably pretty much everyone else. My apologies to the State of NM for being biased!

Well, this got me to thinking that maybe NM doesn't have very many murders or other capital crimes. Thus, Mr. McKay could be lead, yet not have very much experience. However, my research turned up this:

Alabama, Missouri, New Mexico

Tying for third-place, each with an average of eight murders per 100,000 people, are Alabama, Missouri and New Mexico. Although these three are geographically disparate states, they have similar populations. All are generally rural states, but contain urban areas --- Birmingham, St. Louis and Albuquerque --- that boost the state's overall population figures and introduce an element of urban crime to largely rural state. These cities may account for some of the homicide rates. Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana --- all states with high per-capital homicide rates --- border each other, forming a cluster of high-homicide states

 

[seattlechiquita]

Wake me when it's Spring.

 

[NCEast]

:floorlaugh:

Ooops, NC, the laughing is not for your need for prednisone! I hope you're feeling better in no time. But, your comments about hearing the opening of potato chip bags made me chuckle...

I'm laughing. I knew what you meant. Don't mention food at all until July 24th!!
Every time yall opened your bag of chips last week I heard it I'm eating yogurt and drinking coffee at the moment, not a good mix at all.

 

[NCEast]

OK, so the prosecution is up. Please do good McKay!!!!

 

[NCEast]

Ok. I'm ready to slap the s*** out of this man already. He won't answer a question directly. He's not getting paid by the prosecution.

 

[seattlechiquita]

Dudes, seriously. I am falling asleep.

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

You bring up a good point about her religion. I hope the prosecution will bring it out somehow--especially if she was Catholic. They absolutely do not look at suicide lightly.

I mentioned the Catholic faith early on because I know that suicide is ranked as severe as murder. Both are mortal sins with a major difference. A murderer may have the chance to repent, be forgiven and enter the kingdom of heaven. A suicide doesn't usually have that option and since I'm Catholic I'll tell you it is the worst thing a person could do. Anybody raised in that faith will tell you it is an affront to God.

 

[NCEast]

McKay needs to ask the witness to limit his answers to the questions asked. McKay is giving him too much freedom to talk. Yes or no answers will suffice.

 

[NCEast]

Oh lordy, Serna is whining.