NM NM - Tijeras, near Ideal Cement Plant, WhtFem 17-22, UP13186, clothes, belt, shoe, Sep'88

[Romulus]

NamUs UP 13186

https://identifyus.org/en/cases/13186

Unidentified White Female

Found September 9, 1988 in Bernalillo County, NM
Body Condition: Not recognizable - Partial skeletal parts only
Probable year of death: 1983 to 1986
Estimated postmortem interval: 2 years


Vital Statistics
Estimated age: 17-22
Approximate Height: cannot estimate
Approximate Weight: cannot estimate.
Hair Color: Unknown

Eye Color: Unknown
Scars and marks: Nothing
Clothing & Accessories

Clothing: Denim pants, blue or black, inseam measures 28"; Faded light blue or pale green long sleeved blouse; One left shoe with five pair of eyelets, rubber sole, suede upper; 26" long yellow metal stretch belt with yellow buckle and a gray metal buckle; White brassiere, torn; No labels on any of the clothing;

Jewerly: nothing
Footwear: nothing
Accessories: nothing

Identifiers
Fingerprints: Fingerprint not available
Dentals: Dental information / charting is available and entered
DNA: Sample submitted - Tests not complete

Case History: Skeletal remains recovered in an arroyo near the Ideal Cement Plant, Tijeras, NM

 

[Romulus]

Dental radiographs of this female UID

 

[JupiterAmmon]

The plant is apparently now called GCC of America. It is 15 miles from Albuquerque and right off the main freeway east out of Albuquerque (the 40).

 

[Gardener1850]

A poster in Clara Grunst's thread is wondering if this could be her: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?370511-MO-Clara-Grunst-21-Joplin-9-Oct-1984

(I haven't compared cases to see how likely it is, just connecting the two threads)

 

[Mariekristi86]

A poster in Clara Grunst's thread is wondering if this could be her: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?370511-MO-Clara-Grunst-21-Joplin-9-Oct-1984

(I haven't compared cases to see how likely it is, just connecting the two threads)

Thanks

Her case is super frustrating because she was known to hitch hike and was last known to be riding with a truck driver. She could have ended up anywhere!

 

[Otterly]

Thanks

Her case is super frustrating because she was known to hitch hike and was last known to be riding with a truck driver. She could have ended up anywhere!

Since the UID and Clara both have dentals available, hopefully this can be a quick rule in/out.

 

[Romulus]

1459UFNM

1459UFNM - Unidentified Female

Date of Discovery: September 9, 1988
Location of Discovery: Tijeras, Bernalillo County, New Mexico
Estimated Date of Death: 1983-1986
State of Remains: Skeletal
Cause of Death: Unknown

Physical Description
Estimated Age: 17-22 years old
Race: White
Sex: Female
Height: Unknown
Weight: Unknown
Hair Color: Unknown
Eye Color: Unknown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Unknown

Identifiers
Dentals: Available.
Fingerprints: Not available.
DNA: Unknown.

Clothing & Personal Items
Clothing: Denim pants, blue or black, inseam measures 28"; Faded light blue or pale green long sleeved blouse; One left shoe with five pair of eyelets, rubber sole, suede upper; 26" long yellow metal stretch belt with yellow buckle and a gray metal buckle; White brassiere, torn; No labels on any of the clothing.
Jewelry: Unknown.
Additional Personal Items: Unknown.

Circumstances of Discovery
The decedent's remains were found in an arroyo near the Ideal Cement Plant in Tijeras, New Mexico.

Investigating Agency(s)
Agency Name: New Mexico Office of the Chief Medical Examiner
Agency Contact Person: Peter Loomis
Agency Phone Number: 505-272-3053
Agency E-Mail: N/A
Agency Case Number: 1988-03978

Agency Name: Bernalillo County Sheriff's Department
Agency Contact Person: N/A
Agency Phone Number: 505-468-7100
Agency E-Mail: N/A
Agency Case Number: Unknown

NCIC Case Number: Unknown
NamUs Case Number: 13186

Information Source(s)
NamUs

 

[carbuff]

Updated Namus link: Unidentified Person Case

One exclusion, Esther Valdez.

 

[victoriarobinson642]

Going through some older cases-only remotely possible match is O'dina Lucero, but the timeline is more than a little off.
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

 

[Earth]

I wonder if this is connected to David Parker Ray.

 

[Laughing]

The map location is also The Musical Highway:

wasn't aware of this lady when we drove this part of Route 66.

RIP, Ms. Musical Highway.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Since the UID and Clara both have dentals available, hopefully this can be a quick rule in/out.

Does anyone know if Clara was ever submitted for this UID?
Or if there are any new exclusions?

 

[MadMcGoo]

Does anyone know if Clara was ever submitted for this UID?
Or if there are any new exclusions?

Esther Valdez is still the only exclusion listed.

 

[victoriarobinson642]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
Alice Fay White's very sparse case was added to NAMUS today. She went missing from about 70 miles away from Tijeras.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
Alice Fay White's very sparse case was added to NAMUS today. She went missing from about 70 miles away from Tijeras.

I also saw AFW's case on the Dashboard today, and will try to make her a thread here tomorrow. I agree that at least age and time-frame seem to match, but I don't feel comfortable trying to contact LE, etc. about it myself.

As an aside, how sad that AFW has no photo and is just now in NamUs.

 

[Romulus]

Link Namus is off, but still on Doe Network.

Bernalillo County Jane Doe (1988)

 

[victoriarobinson642]

Still working on my end. Maybe there's a broken link.

 

[carbuff]

Yes, case is still there. Esther Valdez is still the only exclusion. The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Namus has been funky the last couple of weeks, especially with older links, so it was probably just a glitch.

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Bumping case up.

I'm finding 93 White or Hispanic women listed in NamUs, ages 17-22, who went missing between the beginning of 1983 and end of 1986 nationwide. I'm sure location and circumstances and then dental records would rule quite a few out, though.

This case bothers me. She was in an arroyo, out in the open. No height, likeness, etc. Nameless for decades now...

 

[Laughing]

Bumping case up.

I'm finding 93 White or Hispanic women listed in NamUs, ages 17-22, who went missing between the beginning of 1983 and end of 1986 nationwide. I'm sure location and circumstances and then dental records would rule quite a few out, though.

This case bothers me. She was in an arroyo, out in the open. No height, likeness, etc. Nameless for decades now...

And found close enough to an Interstate to be from anywhere. Unfortunate young lady!