No intruder?

[SunnieRN]

Oh, like where's Bill Richardson when you need him?

"A top North Korean general offered Sunday to help return the remains of several hundred U.S. troops killed during the Korean War, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson said.
Maj. Gen. Pak Rim Su told Richardson that the bodies were discovered recently in North Korea."

Nov 29, 1996 ... On this trip, he helped negotiate the release of Evan Hunziker, an American ... down from the $100000 to what was it, $5000 that was finally paid? ... BILL RICHARDSON: There's no question that unless North Korea makes a ...


But what does THAT have to do with PR writing the note????

Maybe nothing. Maybe everything.

"You will be denied the remains for a proper burial."

"We respect your business but not the country that it serves."

"We are a group of individuals..."

"Victory! and its revolutionary connotations that hark back to foreign powers."

"Someone used to exerting authority over others."

"Outspoken against capitalism."

"Obsessed with movies."

"Capable of conscience-free acts."

"A monster beyond imagination."

"Use that good southern common sense of yours."

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Bells going off? None?

So, is this still a 'theory? Or do you now say this is your belief on what happened? About your rudeness, 'nuff said by everyone else!

 

[DeeDee249]

Might I suggest some book reading for you then? Or are you going for that ostrich look?

No, I didn't mean the RDI bible 'Inside the Ramsey Murder Investigation'. The answers are not there.

No thanks, I've read most of the other books on the case.

 

[DeeDee249]

Yeah those Koreans could promote Islam as their 2nd most popular religion...

They could, actually.

 

[DeeDee249]

:boohoo:

Your 'serious consideration' isn't a serious prospect for me, so I'd appreciate it if you'd stop dangling it all the time as if it was something real.

Your choice whether or not to seriously consider my theory has been raised like 5 times. Why so interested? Why not post your theory on what happened instead? I promise to give it serious consideration with no conditions, no hysterics, no smileys, and no RDI tag-team remarks like "Oh I can't believe ANYONE would think THAT" or snappy one liners like "PR wrote the note".

Yep. Patsy wrote the note.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

So, is this still a 'theory? Or do you now say this is your belief on what happened? About your rudeness, 'nuff said by everyone else!

Whats the difference between 'a theory' and 'a belief on what happened'? Do you mean like "final answer"? And do you even know what my belief is yet?

About my rudeness? Check yours...and dont be so rough on the IDI's just because they're not RDI, OK?

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Holdon, do you believe that JonBenet was actually molested in the days leading up to her death?

Is this a rhetorical question? To be honest I didn't bother with the subject.

For further discussion, why not get with the other RDI posters? Some of them are remarkably well versed on the subject.

 

[SunnieRN]

Whats the difference between 'a theory' and 'a belief on what happened'? Do you mean like "final answer"? And do you even know what my belief is yet?

About my rudeness? Check yours...and dont be so rough on the IDI's just because they're not RDI, OK?

I asked you an honest question. Why do you think I was trying to be rude to you? Just like always, you answer a question with another question. No information, no links, no honesty. Maybe your idea that I was being rude to you came about due to the fact that you have no answer to my question. All you have to do is say that.

As for being 'rough on IDI's', it has nothing to do with their not being RDI. It has to do with unfounded, or inaccurate statements, not backed up by fact or links, that can easily be refuted. Posting links and correcting inaccuracies is not being rude. You of course know the difference, but again seem to be trying to skirt the issues and avoid serious discussion, while trying to instigate further argument. No thanks.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

I asked you an honest question. Why do you think I was trying to be rude to you? Just like always, you answer a question with another question. No information, no links, no honesty. Maybe your idea that I was being rude to you came about due to the fact that you have no answer to my question. All you have to do is say that.

As for being 'rough on IDI's', it has nothing to do with their not being RDI. It has to do with unfounded, or inaccurate statements, not backed up by fact or links, that can easily be refuted. Posting links and correcting inaccuracies is not being rude. You of course know the difference, but again seem to be trying to skirt the issues and avoid serious discussion, while trying to instigate further argument. No thanks.

:boohoo:

 

[Let_Forever_Be]

The touch DNA on the leggings matched the DNA that was found in solution with JBR's blood taken up from a swab that was pressed onto red stained area of underwear fabric, for the expressed purpose of finding assailant DNA. Sure enough, there it was.

Since when is a jug of milk on the same criminal context as inside crotch underwear of a sexual assault victim? Do you really think JBR's underwear is a convenience store item?

Do you even read your own posts?

1. They weren't leggings -- they were longjohns.
2. There was indeed a dna match between the longjohns and underwear. But since it has not been presented as blood, saliva or semen dna we might infer that the matching dna is only touch-dna. From that, well, there's a plethora of explanations as to how touch-dna could be on those garment : JohnBenet, the perpetrator (one of the parents perhaps) could have transmitted it at the crime scene. It's also been postulated that post death, the dna could have been transferred through contamination.

 

[Agatha_C]

HOTYH,

I have got to give you credit. You have put more effort into finding obscure messages in the RN, than the writer put into writing it. However, both come to the same conclusion... Ridiculous!

Oh, like where's Bill Richardson when you need him?

"A top North Korean general offered Sunday to help return the remains of several hundred U.S. troops killed during the Korean War, New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson said.
Maj. Gen. Pak Rim Su told Richardson that the bodies were discovered recently in North Korea."

Nov 29, 1996 ... On this trip, he helped negotiate the release of Evan Hunziker, an American ... down from the $100000 to what was it, $5000 that was finally paid? ... BILL RICHARDSON: There's no question that unless North Korea makes a ...


But what does THAT have to do with PR writing the note????

HOTYH, are you admitting that PR wrote the RN? What does any of the above, have to do with the RN period? Nothing links the above to 6 y/o little blonde girl or any little girls really? :waitasec:


Maybe nothing. Maybe everything.

It has absolutely nothing to do with it, unless you want to spend 15 years finding hidden messages that allow one to blame Korea. Then I suppose it has everything to do with it.

"You will be denied the remains for a proper burial."

The Rs also used those words a lot! Last I checked neither of them are/were Korean. So what do make of that?

"We respect your business but not the country that it serves."

This was the stupidest sentence of the entire RN.


"We are a group of individuals..."

What else would a group be made up of, if not individuals?


"Victory! and its revolutionary connotations that hark back to foreign powers."

You're right, but then all of our words can be traced back to Europe. Our military and sports players use the word all of the time. What hidden meaning do you find in that? Also, one of the oldest books of all times, written first in Hebrew, used the word repeatedly.... The Bible, Oh thats right, the Rs had several and liked to quote from it often. IMO

"Someone used to exerting authority over others."

Unlike the CEO of a billion dollar company and his controlling stage mother of a wife?

"Outspoken against capitalism."

Ah, the reference to "Fat Cats". JR was pretty fat, but honestly he wasn't the fattest cat in the cat box.


"Obsessed with movies."

I can see where that reeks of Korea...NOT!!!!


"Capable of conscience-free acts."

Are you implying that only Foreigners are capable of conscience free acts? You might want to go back and read the thread about serial killers.


"A monster beyond imagination."

Anyone, that can hurt a child, fills that bill HOTYH. You suggested that another poster do some reading, I would advice you of the same. As horrific as JBs murder was, it was not beyond imagination, or reality. Do some reading.


"Use that good southern common sense of yours."

Oh yeah, of course, they use that term all the time in Korea. What were any of us thinking?

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HOTYH...Even the Rs stopped mentioning the RN. I have asked you before, to give me the name of one Foreign Faction the Rs dream team was checking into or any of the others e.g LE and DA? In fact, I'd bet the farm, the only SFF involved are those still believing the RN was for real.


Bells going off? None?

Jingle bells, jingle bells jingle all the way. Oh what fun it is to ride this Korean sleigh.

 

[Agatha_C]

I honestly can't believe anyone would try and link Korea to this case.

That is a big Korean Red Herring in my opinion.

Korean Sushi.... Hey, if this is a six man SFF, they can get egg roll. Everyone knows, with six, you get egg roll! :dance::crazy::dance::crazy:

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

1. They weren't leggings -- they were longjohns.
2. There was indeed a dna match between the longjohns and underwear. But since it has not been presented as blood, saliva or semen dna we might infer that the matching dna is only touch-dna. From that, well, there's a plethora of explanations as to how touch-dna could be on those garment : JohnBenet, the perpetrator (one of the parents perhaps) could have transmitted it at the crime scene. It's also been postulated that post death, the dna could have been transferred through contamination.

A plethora is what RDI wants but really those are lemon ideas. They're lemons because they are not the most likely.

Skin cells are most likely going to be deposited by the skin cell owner. The Bode website doesn't even include third party transmittal as a real contender. They'd be laughed out of business if touch DNA was valueless, and it would be valueless if it was passed around in this plethora of ways.

The owner of the DNA likes your plethora idea, BTW. If the plethora theory is correct, then somehow and in some way his and anybody elses DNA can get into the underwear of a sexual assault and murder victim innocently.

RDI wants touch DNA to be like dust or bad degraded DNA but thats a mischaracterization. Its processed just like blood or semen, producing a complete DNA profile. Enough skin cells have to be present to produce the profile, not just one or two. The only way to produce that many skin cells is by contact from its owner.

Read the website.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

"Obsessed with movies."

I can see where that reeks of Korea...NOT!!!!

All you've done with this post is exposed your ignorance. For that I thank you.

According to Haddon, the Ramseys' privately financed team involves upwards of 20 people, with four full-time private investigators and 10 forensics experts, including several handwriting analysts and a linguist. On Sunday, moreover, the Ramseys ran their fourth local newspaper ad appealing for help from the public. The ad noted that the killer "appears to be obsessed with techno-crime movies and phrases from them" and included quotes from Ransom, Dirty Harry and Speed that the family says are similar to ones in the bogus ransom note.​

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,986892,00.html#ixzz18jS9BbaR​

 

[Agatha_C]

"Obsessed with movies."

I can see where that reeks of Korea...NOT!!!!




All you've done with this post is exposed your ignorance.

Then my job here is done!!!!!!!!!

:bud::bud::bud::bud::bud::bud:

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

"Obsessed with movies."

I can see where that reeks of Korea...NOT!!!!

Uh oh...

Uninformed.

 

[joeskidbeck]

Is this a rhetorical question? To be honest I didn't bother with the subject.

For further discussion, why not get with the other RDI posters? Some of them are remarkably well versed on the subject.

Actually, it was not a rhetorical question. I was honestly asking your opinion re the autopsy report. Since you don't bother with the subject I guess I can conclude that your opinion is she was not molested or that it's not relevant to her murder. I know what a lot of RDIs think of the prior molestation, I was wondering what IDIs think of it. I should probably ask another IDI.

 

[Tricia]

OK. Here is the deal. The next time I have to delete a post because of name calling the person gets banned for life.

You all know better.

 

[otg]

Okay, it’s awfully quiet in here now. I feel like we’re all a bunch of chided children sitting in a room where there is this foul smell permeating the air, and we’re all looking at one another thinking the same thing. The phrase “hoof-hearted” comes to mind.

Thanks, Tricia, for being the adult in the room.
.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Actually, it was not a rhetorical question. I was honestly asking your opinion re the autopsy report. Since you don't bother with the subject I guess I can conclude that your opinion is she was not molested or that it's not relevant to her murder. I know what a lot of RDIs think of the prior molestation, I was wondering what IDIs think of it. I should probably ask another IDI.

RDI doesn't know for a fact that PR wrote the note or that JBR was ever a victim of parental abuse or other abuse aside from that night. These are myths perpetuated to keep RDI complicity and motive alive.

Really, PR writing the note isn't a known fact, and neither is parental abuse. They are not discussed freely as if they are knowns by BPD, CBI, the DA, the FBI, or anybody. They are discussed freely as if facts only here and on the tabs. If this is your source for info, then I suppose Elvis is still alive too, right?

 

[SunnieRN]

:boohoo:

IDI arguments that are sound, based on links as well as sound and reasonable information presented in a logical manner is a wonderful tool, able to influence decisions. Only answering a post with a violin playing smiley, further leads me to believe that your posts do not include any of the above criteria, although that does not surprise me. Sad really, since you seem to be articulate and intelligent.