No intruder?

  • #1,141
Well, the way I see it is that PR didnt do this interview for a while.... and she should have known by then the facts of what her daughter was wearing upon her BRUTAL murder! She did not deny in the interview the existance of the panties, in fact in her PR way tried to dismiss the panties. she never called out any cop for lying, pushing..... She is the outright Liar, How can you dismiss that?

RTC, I can tell you from personal experience that IDI doesn't think about "how" all that much.

I read all your posts, you expect me to believe the Intruder came in empty handed and left with
rope
tape
ransom note pages
smelly sized 6 undies
pajama bottoms
gloves
and molested her while she stunk to high heaven while leaving no junk of him/her self!

WOW.

oh yeah the touch DNA does bother me but the rest of the stuff makes up for it.

Boy, that sums it up perfectly!

The touch DNA could have easily come from the sweatshirt/blanket that was placed upon her after she was carried up or in transport or at autopsy.
it doesnt account for PR lies. Nothing can dismiss her non recollection.

Hammer it home, RTC.

Unless you want to call her a prescription drug addict and I dont think you want to go there.

Wow, that's cutting deep!
 
  • #1,142
Oh great!! Off the oversized panties and back onto the evidence removed in the golf bag. Goody!!

We couldn't combine this with another discussion of the Barbie dolls or of the dolly with the tape on it's neck, just to make it more interesting could we?

We strive to please.
 
  • #1,143
Right. Suuureee it "did", just keep telling yourself that, because the rest of us know better.

You made my day, Ames.
 
  • #1,144
RTC, I can tell you from personal experience that IDI doesn't think about "how" all that much.



WOW.



Boy, that sums it up perfectly!



Hammer it home, RTC.



Wow, that's cutting deep!

RDI-bot?

Its like a campaign, with no punches pulled.

Automated.
 
  • #1,145
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  • #1,146
Then please explain how the DNA from a person who was not at the Whites and not at the lab got all over JBR's clothing she was wearing at the time, including mixed with assault blood. I'd love to know exactly how that happened, especially getting it mixed with JBR's blood since there wasn't that much of it.

I'll bet you would.

When you're done explaining your happenstance, like we're all then expected to just believe it, please reread your explanation and note how inferior it is to an intruder placing 'his' hands on JBR that night. It seems Occams Razor favors IDI in the circumstance of the DNA because direct transfer by criminal is by far the simplest explanation for the evidence.

This would be true in a vacuum. Problem is, the DNA doesn't exist in a vacuum. It's one thing vs. a whole mess of things.
 
  • #1,147
Believe me hotyh, I am 'aghast' at your refusal to admit that the R's, being in the house that night, no intruder having been PROVEN to be there, allows you to profess repeatedly, that the R's owned none of those items, or used those items.

Instead you insist, without any proof, solid evidence, that it was an intruder. Someone that supposedly packed in these items, killed a child they were supposed to kidnap, molested her, without undressing her, doing all of this, with a tiny amount of touch DNA that you CAN NOT prove is reliable DNA belonging to a person there that very night. Even your suspect can not be proven to be in Boulder that night, per your post.

So yes, you are correct, that I am aghast at your professions of guilt of a MAAM, not proven to be there, while the three family members left alive were indeed there beyond a shadow of a doubt and by their own admissions.

You'll get used to it, Sunnie. Or, you'll have a psychotic episode, like I'm fixing to have!
 
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  • #1,149
Meanwhile, where were you expecting the three family members to be that night, if not under the same roof with JBR? To me that is not remarkable as they were where they were expected to be. This information on its own doesn't add or subtract from their guilt. When placed alongside the 'totality' it doesnt add anything either.

EXCUSE ME?! I couldn't let that one pass by unchallenged. There presence, HOTYH is in fact, the KEYSTONE to this whole thing. We KNOW they were there. Contrary-wise, IDI has had 14 years to place an intruder in the house, never mind WHO it was. No dice in all of that time.

Try looking at it from that perspective.

Of course there is solid evidence of intruder. Thats why no arrest, no GJ indictment, and CODIS has an entry that was later corroborated.

PLEASE.

1) No arrest because of cross fingerpointing.

2) No GJ indictment because the DA dismissed them before they voted.

3) Corroborated? You call a nine-marker sample corroboration? That explains a lot.

Huge intruder evidence but only to those who are willing to accept fact.

IDI is in no position to lecture ANYONE about accepting fact!
 
  • #1,150
HOTYH, where did you see that "will" was needed in this case or any other? The killer only needed opportunity in this case because motive doesn't apply to an accident that was staged to look like murder. If you insist on a motive, try staying out of prison. That works pretty well.

And I'm sure the Rs were thinking about that, along with some of the nastier implications of it...
 
  • #1,151

Normally, HOTYH, I'd avoid these little witticisms and ask you to answer the questions as put to you. But in this case, let me just say that as far as you go, I am the TERMINATOR or RDI: ruthless, impervious to pity, and no matter what you do to me, I'll keep coming.

Its like a campaign, with no punches pulled.

Oh, you've got THAT right. Not anymore, they won't be! I've tried everything to keep this friendly, but you can kiss that good-bye.

Automated.

Oh, no. Not automated. If anything, I plan to put more effort in to this.
 
  • #1,152
Have fun guys, I have somewhere else I need to be!!

Oh, don't leave now! The fun's just starting!

(I cycled through quite a few possible responses before I settled on that one!)
 
  • #1,153
Oh, don't leave now! The fun's just starting!

(I cycled through quite a few possible responses before I settled on that one!)



Agatha>>>>> :floorlaugh:
 
  • #1,154
I have no intention/ability to show you an intruder who matches the touch DNA, and no cadavers to experiment with bats on.

I guess we'll talk never then.

You must be very aware that I knew you had no intention to show or prove anything to me. If you are not able to talk AROUND something, you ignore it or attack 'RDI' as a whole.

Guess what? I don't believe there is a MAAM that had ANYTHING to do with the death of JonBenet. In fact, I don't believe that any intruder is at all responsible. If it was anyone other than Burke, John or Patsy, it was an invited individual. That does not include pedophile sex ring members. Figured I'd better make that clear before someone tries to put words in my mouth.
 
  • #1,155
EXCUSE ME?! I couldn't let that one pass by unchallenged. There presence, HOTYH is in fact, the KEYSTONE to this whole thing. We KNOW they were there. Contrary-wise, IDI has had 14 years to place an intruder in the house, never mind WHO it was. No dice in all of that time.

Try looking at it from that perspective.



PLEASE.

1) No arrest because of cross fingerpointing.

2) No GJ indictment because the DA dismissed them before they voted.

3) Corroborated? You call a nine-marker sample corroboration? That explains a lot.



IDI is in no position to lecture ANYONE about accepting fact!

This is false information. Misinformation.
 
  • #1,156
How about the one piece of evidence we KNOW was left in the house....the other end of the paintbrush that was used as the handle of the garotte. Odd that no other fingerprints were found on the tub of Patsy's art supplies?
 
  • #1,157
I'll bet you would.



This would be true in a vacuum. Problem is, the DNA doesn't exist in a vacuum. It's one thing vs. a whole mess of things.

This is false. Its a known rule that the few important items outweigh the trivial many. There's no relationship between the core evidence and RDI. In other words, when we limit ourselves to what we truly know about what is only the core items of evidence, RDI has no substance. There's no probable cause against the R's.

RDI gets eliminated.
 
  • #1,158
How about the one piece of evidence we KNOW was left in the house....the other end of the paintbrush that was used as the handle of the garotte. Odd that no other fingerprints were found on the tub of Patsy's art supplies?

Yeah thats odd.
 
  • #1,159
How about the one piece of evidence we KNOW was left in the house....the other end of the paintbrush that was used as the handle of the garotte. Odd that no other fingerprints were found on the tub of Patsy's art supplies?



Especially when we know there should have been at least three sets.... PR, LHP, and JBR.... Its like they lived in the twilight zone....

There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination and no finger prints. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone.
 
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