Norway Norway - Arjen Kamphuis, 47, Dutch citizen, Bodø, 20 Aug 2018

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  • #401
Neither do I..have much knowledge about devices..but willing to learn
I also read that during the time AK Phone (20minutes) he recieved a sms..(don't exactly know where I read it..) but could a Phone recieve a sms,without unlocking it?

Zoektocht Kamphuis gestaakt: 'Gaan alleen nog af op tips' - Amsterdam - PAROOL
Search Kamphuis stopped: 'Only go for tips'

In this newspaper there is mainly an oversight but what has been found and that they stopped searching the area at that location.They used snifferdogs to comb that specific area.
There are mentions of some tips,that will not be made public.


I rather would not use GT on it because of the copyright symbol in this newspaper…

But I will thrown in my own speculation into this...he arrived by train,a few hours before dark with a kayak,that he bought in NL. (no gps but he could use the one on his device,right?)

There is a place where you can rent kanoes:
Hire:boat,canoe,cycle.
I know it is not the same as a kayak..but still

There is also a website about Rognan Fjordcamp
 
  • #402
I know there have been discussed different ships from Rognan and I find that interesting because of the mobil signal near Vikeså. Anyway, I just come to think about another teori:
Together with Fauske and Sørfold, Bodø accounts for almost 80 percent of all crime in Salten. Many of these are linked to "mobile winning criminals". The expression mobile winning criminals are used for people with little connection to Norway who come here in groups with the main purpose of performing various forms of winning crime, and then quickly leaving the country with the proceeds. The business usually takes place in a planned and organized manner, often using false identities. Can ArjenK become a victim of such criminality and this be the reason for the SIM cards travelling far ? And why this criminality in Fauske, I mean, Bodø is a city with more people and things to steal, but Fauske.. https://www.an.no/nyheter/her-er-the-most-criminality/s/1-33-6435444
 
  • #403
If the opertor locks the phone it will not recieve the SMS, but if its only locked by password it will recieve, you just wont be able to read it.
 
  • #404
What needs to be done ASAP is search the waters of that fjord with the Swedish dogs, or the dogs of the Dutch SIGNI foundation.

These stories of people who disappeared in the fjord and were never found.... did they search the water with dogs I wonder? If Norway does not have these sniffer dogs, they probably did not.

So bring in the sniffer dogs. Let them scour the fjord before the water gets too cold. If they don't find anything on their first, second, third trip, that is fine. It is called exclusion and it means AK is not there.

I've been watching a lot of videos with kayaks these days. If you know how to do it, you can flip your kayak sideways and emerge victoriously in a turn of 360 degrees. If you fall out of the kayak on the water, climbing back into it without turning it over is quite a tricky endeavour. Basically, you have to pull one dead-weight leg out of the water and over the hull.
My idea is that Arjen Kamphuis did not know how to do either. If the kayak got into trouble he would be in big trouble.

If there was an accident, it probably happened near the coast. Hit a rock and got stuck under water. No time or opportunity to grab the phone. The kayak obviously has been upside down ~ saw one video where the seat and the orange floor part had to be reconnected after a flip-over. Those clippings on the side ledges are not 100% shock proof.

All this is a theory, based on the presumption that AK did go on a kayak tour on August 20 near Rognan. He may have done that. Then again, he may not. There is no way to tell, unless you search. Oceanologists may be able to tell more about the currents.

Those Swedish dogs that found the severed body parts of Kim Wall give me hope that this can be done. And it should.
 
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I know there have been discussed different ships from Rognan and I find that interesting because of the mobil signal near Vikeså. Anyway, I just come to think about another teori:
Together with Fauske and Sørfold, Bodø accounts for almost 80 percent of all crime in Salten. Many of these are linked to "mobile winning criminals". The expression mobile winning criminals are used for people with little connection to Norway who come here in groups with the main purpose of performing various forms of winning crime, and then quickly leaving the country with the proceeds. The business usually takes place in a planned and organized manner, often using false identities. Can ArjenK become a victim of such criminality and this be the reason for the SIM cards travelling far ? And why this criminality in Fauske, I mean, Bodø is a city with more people and things to steal, but Fauske.. https://www.an.no/nyheter/her-er-the-most-criminality/s/1-33-6435444
Yes there are certainly criminal gangs active in Europe.

Last year during ICE night train ( Munchen -Koln)I was robbed,it was during vacation time and very crowed & chaotic on that train.They spotted me on the station (I think) but too make a long story short...
My sons tablet was stolen and cash that I had in my backpack,in a blinc of an eye
My backpack was found left in a toilet and opened.
The conductor had saw an open backpack but did not announce it.

I had an app on my tablet,linked to my sons device and when I came home I tried to track it.It lead to Amsterdam (synchronized) but because it happend in Germany,the stolen report I made to police was in Koln and the police here could not put it in the Dutch system of stolen devices.Checked with Samsung,who also made a stolen report..(saying it would be difficult to unlock with the pincodes and sweeping codes,but that seemed BS)
Also had to get a new pinpass,because of that chip in it could also be scanned or something according to my bank Triodos...
 
  • #406
I know there have been discussed different ships from Rognan and I find that interesting because of the mobil signal near Vikeså. Anyway, I just come to think about another teori:
Together with Fauske and Sørfold, Bodø accounts for almost 80 percent of all crime in Salten. Many of these are linked to "mobile winning criminals". The expression mobile winning criminals are used for people with little connection to Norway who come here in groups with the main purpose of performing various forms of winning crime, and then quickly leaving the country with the proceeds. The business usually takes place in a planned and organized manner, often using false identities. Can ArjenK become a victim of such criminality and this be the reason for the SIM cards travelling far ? And why this criminality in Fauske, I mean, Bodø is a city with more people and things to steal, but Fauske.. https://www.an.no/nyheter/her-er-the-most-criminality/s/1-33-6435444

Hiya eeqaz, welcome to WS.

I wrote something similar in the early days of the investigation. That AK may have been robbed for his valuables and phone, meaning he was not attacked because he was who he was. I thought he might have made it to Trondheim, but he probably did not, because his reservation for the train would have been checked on board.

Meanwhile, if I remember well, it has been said that the German sim-card did not connect to the net again.

I'm beginning to think he made it to Trondheim. Here's the theory, it includes the phone. Because it is odd to say the least that Arjen would have read a message and not answered it.

My current theory goes as follows:

The disappearance of Arjen Kamphuis has nothing to do with Arjen Kamphuis being who he is, his work, his past, his projects and even less with any connection with Julian Assange. All that is noise that obscures the core of the matter.

Arjen Kamphuis leaves the Scandic Bodø hotel and boards the nine o'clock train in the evening of August 20.
He arrives in Værnes (airport) or Trondheim around seven o'clock the next morning (August 21). On arrival, or shortly after, he becomes the victim of a robbery with violence.
The perpetrators are not interested in the person Arjen Kamphuis. They want his phone and money.
The locked phone is sold on the black market.
The buyer isn't interested in the contents of the phone, he tries to get access and when this does not work, he simply reboots the phone, resets the device to factory settings and inserts a simcard of his own.

It is my understanding that you cannot protect your phone against resetting to default, to factory settings - not even AK could prevent that. All you basically have to do is push some buttons on the outside of the phone. I'm no phone wizzard, so educate me if I'm wrong but that is what I understood from a conversation.

If I am right, the person or persons who switched the simcard are either the perpetrators or more likely the buyers of the stolen phone. The new simcard was German, this might point to networks of migrants and illegal migrants. Norway belongs to the Schengen area, and once you're in, you can go anywhere.

Since AK did not report the theft of his phone, it follows that he did not survive the robbery. The sightings in Denmark were of another person.

I would look for similar robberies in the Trondheim area.

All theory. I hope I am wrong and he comes home asap.
 
  • #407
To summarise (correct me if I'm wrong):
- the (bum) bag with stuff inside was found in the water
- the kayak had been pulled ashore days before it was found by someone/police (so it was found on land?)
- the paddle was also found on land(?)

That's why police searched on land, around that cabin and brought in that police dog -not cadaver dog- and the dog didn't find anything else.
 
  • #408
To summarise (correct me if I'm wrong):
- the (bum) bag with stuff inside was found in the water
- the kayak had been pulled ashore days before it was found by someone/police (so it was found on land?)
- the paddle was also found on land(?)

That's why police searched on land, around that cabin and brought in that police dog -not cadaver dog- and the dog didn't find anything else.

Yes that seems to be correct,from what I read
Although I must confess that I have not seen the video you mentioned earlier,about the bum bag.

I think also that AK had no interest in a rental kayak with gps on it,because the gps could be located by the kayak rental business,if there is one in the area.He arrived a few hours before dark...
 
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To summarise (correct me if I'm wrong):
- the (bum) bag with stuff inside was found in the water
- the kayak had been pulled ashore days before it was found by someone/police (so it was found on land?)
- the paddle was also found on land(?)

That's why police searched on land, around that cabin and brought in that police dog -not cadaver dog- and the dog didn't find anything else.

IMHO but this is my impression, both the kayak and the paddle have washed ashore and were found there. They may have been on land, but possibly part in the water and part on the sand or rocks.

In the news item of NOS news from last Tuesday the reporter stands on the rocks near the water and points to the shore as the place where the kayak was found, a small cove right under a holiday hut.

Screenprint:

rolien%2Bcr%25C3%25A9ton.jpg



IMHO there is a tiny sand beach below the boat ramp.
 
  • #411
And what @eeqaz posted about organized mobile crime seems to be a very good theory.
They are indeed well organized

I do think,the moment I was robbed happend when one kicked my dog who was sitting at my feet,was stunned at first but right after my concern was for my dog.After that the person who walked in opposite direction was gone...he had no heavy luggage and was dressed in summer clothes so I thought afterwards..that was the moment that I was distracted while another was on the look out
The police who came on board of the train later when the theft was called in said that crimes were getting more agressive and well planned out...

If AK was seen on the train,with heavy luggage...alone..well :(

Just saying...
 
  • #412
I know there have been discussed different ships from Rognan and I find that interesting because of the mobil signal near Vikeså. Anyway, I just come to think about another teori:
Together with Fauske and Sørfold, Bodø accounts for almost 80 percent of all crime in Salten. Many of these are linked to "mobile winning criminals". The expression mobile winning criminals are used for people with little connection to Norway who come here in groups with the main purpose of performing various forms of winning crime, and then quickly leaving the country with the proceeds. The business usually takes place in a planned and organized manner, often using false identities. Can ArjenK become a victim of such criminality and this be the reason for the SIM cards travelling far ? And why this criminality in Fauske, I mean, Bodø is a city with more people and things to steal, but Fauske.. https://www.an.no/nyheter/her-er-the-most-criminality/s/1-33-6435444
Welcome to Ws eeqaz, love that expression for thieves," mobile winning criminals"!
 
  • #413
Yes that seems to be correct,from what I read
Although I must confess that I have not seen the video you mentioned earlier,about the bum bag.

I think also that AK had no interest in a rental kayak with gps on it,because the gps could be located by the kayak rental business,if there is one in the area.He arrived a few hours before dark...

It is here, you can also see the fishing net that was used:

Tonight's news on national TV as from point 20:00:
- the fisherman found Arjens bum-bag (heuptas) in the water
- inside there was some money and his ID-documents
- as from 21:36 the view from the apartment of the witness who said that he saw Arjen
NOS Journaal | NOS

Why don't they bring in those Danish dogs?
 
  • #414
IMHO but this is my impression, both the kayak and the paddle have washed ashore and were found there. They may have been on land, but possibly part in the water and part on the sand or rocks.

In the news item of NOS news from last Tuesday the reporter stands on the rocks near the water and points to the shore as the place where the kayak was found, a small cove right under a holiday hut.

Screenprint:

rolien%2Bcr%25C3%25A9ton.jpg


IMHO there is a tiny sand beach below the boat ramp.

Yes. I have found another image of that tiny beach, made from another angle:

Hanne Åshild Fonnes on Instagram: “#tussvika #norwaysummer2016 #fauske #nordland #beach #norway #norge”
 
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I know there have been discussed different ships from Rognan and I find that interesting because of the mobil signal near Vikeså. Anyway, I just come to think about another teori:
Together with Fauske and Sørfold, Bodø accounts for almost 80 percent of all crime in Salten. Many of these are linked to "mobile winning criminals". The expression mobile winning criminals are used for people with little connection to Norway who come here in groups with the main purpose of performing various forms of winning crime, and then quickly leaving the country with the proceeds. The business usually takes place in a planned and organized manner, often using false identities. Can ArjenK become a victim of such criminality and this be the reason for the SIM cards travelling far ? And why this criminality in Fauske, I mean, Bodø is a city with more people and things to steal, but Fauske.. https://www.an.no/nyheter/her-er-the-most-criminality/s/1-33-6435444


5 years ago I visited Bodo again, had not been there in 25 years because my relatives had moved out since. First thing I noticed after 25 years were large groups of gypsies behind the shopping centre around a camp-fire, Also I stayed a couple of days in a hut on a hytte feld about half an hour drive from Bodo, must have been direction east. I the late evening we got a visitor at the door who claimed to be "collecting money for poor students"in the middle of nowhere. It was obviously a guy from eastern Europe, on a bicycle. This was in a remote and deserted area. Sort of freaked me out.
My question is:, suppose the phone was stolen by a thieve, does it mean it had to be unlocked for making connection to a base station?. As far as I know even if the phone is switched off it maken contact with the net, right? (they use the word "ping"I am not sure what that means.
 
  • #417

That is a confusing picture. Are you sure it is the same location? Or maybe near it? IMHO that is possibly a similar beach but not the same one. The angle of the roof of the big house is different. The steep edge is also missing.

Does look like a good place where something might wash up though.

rolien%2Bcr%25C3%25A9ton%2B2.jpg
 
  • #418
5 years ago I visited Bodo again, had not been there in 25 years because my relatives had moved out since. First thing I noticed after 25 years were large groups of gypsies behind the shopping centre around a camp-fire, Also I stayed a couple of days in a hut on a hytte feld about half an hour drive from Bodo, must have been direction east. I the late evening we got a visitor at the door who claimed to be "collecting money for poor students"in the middle of nowhere. It was obviously a guy from eastern Europe, on a bicycle. This was in a remote and deserted area. Sort of freaked me out.
My question is:, suppose the phone was stolen by a thieve, does it mean it had to be unlocked for making connection to a base station?. As far as I know even if the phone is switched off it maken contact with the net, right? (they use the word "ping"I am not sure what that means.
Welcome to Ws. vlad!
Locating Mobile Phones through Pinging and Triangulation
"There are two ways a cellular network provider can locate a phone connected to their network, either through pinging or triangulation. Pinging is a digital process and triangulation is an analog process.

A cell phone “ping” is quite simply the process of determining the location, with reasonable accuracy, of a cell phone at any given point in time by utilizing the phone GPS location aware capabilities, it is very similar to GPS vehicle tracking systems. To “ping” in this context means to send a signal to a particular cell phone and have it respond with the requested data.

The term is derived from SONAR and echolocation when a technician would send out a sound wave, or ping, and wait for its return to locate another object. New generation cell phones and mobile service providers are required by federal mandate, via the “E-911” program, to be or become GPS capable so that 911 operators will be able to determine the location of a caller who is making an emergency phone call. When a new digital cell phone is pinged, it determines its latitude and longitude via GPS and sends these coordinates back via the SMS system (the same system used to send text messages). This means that in instances where a fugitive or other missing person has a GPS enabled cell phone (and that the phone has power when being polled, or pinged) that the cell phone can be located within a reasonable geographic area- some say within several feet of the cell phone."
 
  • #419
5 years ago I visited Bodo again, had not been there in 25 years because my relatives had moved out since. First thing I noticed after 25 years were large groups of gypsies behind the shopping centre around a camp-fire, Also I stayed a couple of days in a hut on a hytte feld about half an hour drive from Bodo, must have been direction east. I the late evening we got a visitor at the door who claimed to be "collecting money for poor students"in the middle of nowhere. It was obviously a guy from eastern Europe, on a bicycle. This was in a remote and deserted area. Sort of freaked me out.
My question is:, suppose the phone was stolen by a thieve, does it mean it had to be unlocked for making connection to a base station?. As far as I know even if the phone is switched off it maken contact with the net, right? (they use the word "ping"I am not sure what that means.
Hi Vlad
Also welcome
Ping it means that the phone was on/used and connected with a phone profider
@Stizzi made if I remember this correct a post about it.@Chiatos thanks for putting that up again (the video about the bag)
 
  • #420
5 years ago I visited Bodo again, had not been there in 25 years because my relatives had moved out since. First thing I noticed after 25 years were large groups of gypsies behind the shopping centre around a camp-fire, Also I stayed a couple of days in a hut on a hytte feld about half an hour drive from Bodo, must have been direction east. I the late evening we got a visitor at the door who claimed to be "collecting money for poor students"in the middle of nowhere. It was obviously a guy from eastern Europe, on a bicycle. This was in a remote and deserted area. Sort of freaked me out.
My question is:, suppose the phone was stolen by a thieve, does it mean it had to be unlocked for making connection to a base station?. As far as I know even if the phone is switched off it maken contact with the net, right? (they use the word "ping"I am not sure what that means.


Hi Vlad, welcome here. I am surprised to notice that the name Vlad had not been taken already. This must be your lucky day.

The Police have traced Arjens's movements in a 70 - 80 km radius around Bodø and the last time his phone pinged in the area was on August 20 around 22.00 hrs in the Fauske area. Then his phone connects briefly to the net 10 days later in Rogaland. In the meantime, the phone did not ping anywhere. Either it was switched off completely or the sim cards were taken out, or it drowned in the fjord never to rise again, and the connection in Rogaland was something different.

As a cyber specialist, Arjen Kamphuis knows how to protect his phone and IMHO also how to trace it if it went missing. He did not report a theft.
 
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