Norway Norway - Arjen Kamphuis, 47, Dutch citizen, Bodø, 20 Aug 2018

[ZaZara]

Here is a video from 2016 of Rognan, seen from the air.

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I find it very curious. There is a marina, but that is for small boats, recreational ones.
This is a place where Arjen Kamphuis might have unfolded his kayak and perhaps gone into the fjord. He would have been in plain sight of everyone nearby. Next to the hotel.

I tried to find the apartment buiding from where the witness allegedly saw a man walking towards the boat builder. I cannot find it, maybe it is somewhere between 1.15 and 1.20 in the video. This is the only area I can see that has trees. There are very few trees along the direct shore line.

I don't think the apartment is on a main road towards the shore, so why would AK (if it was him) have been there?

The spot where the bigger vessels moore is further down the fjord, nowhere near the marina.

Strange.

 

[Stizzi]

I tried to find the apartment buiding

 

[Chiatos]

I agree that Arjen could not have boarded the ship Beautrophy.

I have found back the info that remained stuck in my mind:
Rond het moment dat Kamphuis verdween, vertrok een vrachtschip met een lading van de lokale kabelfabriek Nexans naar Stavanger. ,,Dat lag hier weken in de haven’’, vertelt serveerster Kristine in het enige hotel, dat op de kade uitkijkt. ,,Het was een groot schip, dat ook naar Canada vaart.
That ship would have arrived at Rognan weeks before the 20th of August...

Published in the AD and in the BN de Stem.
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The Beautrophy arrived in the port of Rognan on the 18th of August. The ship in question (according to Kristine) had already been lying in the port for weeks.

But who knows, perhaps Arjen just took his kayak from the shore and went for a paddle and then something went terribly wrong.

 

[Chiatos]

Yes, in that area there are birch trees in Rognan

 

[ZaZara]

@Stizzi

If AK was going to the vessel, he surely would not have taken the road to the boat builder! If he was going to the shore ... would the boat builders ramp be the place? and would he have gone unnoticed?

I found the boat builders blog btw. Plus his business location. He makes beautiful boats!

Meanwhile, I am beginning to doubt this witness. Not that he saw someone with luggage, but that the person would have been Arjen Kamphuis.

 

[Zoe1234]

this is interesting: https://pastebin.com/raw/bhYzDMRu an English translation

 

[dotr]

this is interesting: https://pastebin.com/raw/bhYzDMRu an English translation

Wow, thanks for that very interesting link!

"The fact that Kamphuis got off the train at Fauske for a paddle trip also seems
unlikely. It rained and there were hard winds that day. Two days later he would
fly back to Schiphol from Trondheim. The weeks before it had been beautiful
weather. He had had enough opportunity for sailing trips in the area.

His friends find it strange that he had just bought such an expensive kayak
(about 2,000 euros) just before leaving in the Netherlands. "He likes
adventurous mountain hikes, but kayaking? We had never heard about that before"
says friend Ancilla van de Leest."

"Apart from the hotel receptionists, who checked him in and out,
nobody saw him. Where did he eat all those days? Not in the Radisson's
restaurant, the manager says. "I never saw him. I know that for sure."
Kamphuis, who is known as a lover of fish and good restaurants, has also never
eaten at the excellent fish restaurant opposite the harbor."

 

[ZaZara]

With all due respect,most of these post were all about haunting for ego's.
-Who is right,who is wrong?-Who post the first?
#overload

That realy doesnt matter, people should wake up &'OPEN UR EYES! #listen #hear #watch

Listen to his statements,the post he made,,the speeches Arjen gave and the person he is! UT,Linkedin blog and much more,safety and ur own controll to protect
There is so much flowing on the internet,!
I have NOT seen anything of this, posted by you!

You must have missed page 1 of this thread. I put the background info and links about Arjen Kamphuis there.

 

[ZaZara]

Wow, thanks for that very interesting link!

"The fact that Kamphuis got off the train at Fauske for a paddle trip also seems
unlikely. It rained and there were hard winds that day. Two days later he would
fly back to Schiphol from Trondheim. The weeks before it had been beautiful
weather. He had had enough opportunity for sailing trips in the area.

His friends find it strange that he had just bought such an expensive kayak
(about 2,000 euros) just before leaving in the Netherlands. "He likes
adventurous mountain hikes, but kayaking? We had never heard about that before"
says friend Ancilla van de Leest."

"Apart from the hotel receptionists, who checked him in and out,
nobody saw him. Where did he eat all those days? Not in the Radisson's
restaurant, the manager says. "I never saw him. I know that for sure."
Kamphuis, who is known as a lover of fish and good restaurants, has also never
eaten at the excellent fish restaurant opposite the harbor."

This is all speculation.

 

[Zoe1234]

Wow, thanks for that very interesting link!

"The fact that Kamphuis got off the train at Fauske for a paddle trip also seems
unlikely. It rained and there were hard winds that day. Two days later he would
fly back to Schiphol from Trondheim. The weeks before it had been beautiful
weather. He had had enough opportunity for sailing trips in the area.

His friends find it strange that he had just bought such an expensive kayak
(about 2,000 euros) just before leaving in the Netherlands. "He likes
adventurous mountain hikes, but kayaking? We had never heard about that before"
says friend Ancilla van de Leest."

"Apart from the hotel receptionists, who checked him in and out,
nobody saw him. Where did he eat all those days? Not in the Radisson's
restaurant, the manager says. "I never saw him. I know that for sure."
Kamphuis, who is known as a lover of fish and good restaurants, has also never
eaten at the excellent fish restaurant opposite the harbor."

I found it on twitter - Ancilla referred to the original article and said it would be nice if somebody posted a translation so to me it meant that she liked what was in there

 

[Chiatos]

They actually did,searched with dogs.
And probably did it before,without telling the media.
No cargo ship then..(wich was odd btw) and did not match with the facts of all his personal belongings that has been found wich indicates more to a tragic accident...
Speurhonden ingezet in mysterieuze vermissingszaak Kamphuis

I wonder.
I wonder whether they have used the special cadaver dogs in the fjord, on the water, and I wonder whether they have used any type of sniffer dog at Rognan.

 

[Chiatos]

I found it on twitter - Ancilla referred to the original article and said it would be nice if somebody posted a translation so to me it meant that she liked what was in there

Thank you Zoe. If I'm not mistaken, this is the same text as the items that were posted before, the items in the AD and BN de Stem.
(I'm not trying to be right or first here, just informing)

 

[ZaZara]

Police: 'Continued searching where belongings of Arjen Kamphuis found is now pointless'

The Norwegian police have stopped searching for the missing Arjen Kamphuis in the area where his kayak, paddle and identity papers were found. "Only with new information will we continue our search," assistant police chief Bjarte Walla says.

On Wednesday no more searches were made in the area, because besides the things already found nothing else was found. According to him, searching further in the area in the north of Norway (see map below) equals 'a day of fishing'. "There is a chance that you will come across something somewhere, but a targeted search is no longer possible. We have combed out the area with tracking dogs. There is now no reason to continue searching there.''

The fact that the search has stopped does not mean that the investigation is being scaled down. "We will continue with the same commitment. We will continue to investigate all the tips we have received. There are a few new tips, but they are not of such a nature that we are communicating them in the media.''


BBM


Arjen's bum bag with the ID in it WAS found by someone who had gone fishing. Think of that. What are the chances.... you are more likely to catch a fish.

 

[dotr]

What is a ' Bum bag '? lol.

 

[Zoe1234]

it is a bag you wear around you waist to store money etc. In English it is called a "fanny pack" meaning bum and bag!

 

[worldwatcher]

I wonder.
I wonder whether they have used the special cadaver dogs in the fjord, on the water, and I wonder whether they have used any type of sniffer dog at Rognan.

I just searched for rescue dogs in Norway
Velkommen - Norsk Redningshund Organisasjon
Velkommen til Norske Redningshunder
Have no clue if the police have their own rescue/cadaver dogs or work together with these organizations.
Maybe there is more to find on their social media?

In an article,there was a mention,that the kayak,before the police found it,was pulled on shore....*this is pure speculation but it could be that some personal items were in it like AKs cellphone and the person who pulled the kayak on shore took it...*
Research shows that Arjen's telephone was still on 30 August 2018 for 20 minutes in Norway. After this, the SIM cards were removed and a German SIM card was placed in his device. From this number, colleagues in Norway are still requesting a history (GT:missing persons report,police NL)

 

[Lorrie]

The norwegian police force dont own dogs, the dogs are owned privately and trained at the police academy. The dogs are trained to be cadaverdogs, but they are not specialized on it so the police force here have to lend the dogs from Sweden.

And the police here borrowed the same dogs earlier this summer on another case with a missing young man at sea with no results so I am not sure they would be available again so soon...

 

[worldwatcher]

Ok thanks Lorrie.
Was wondering about that,have a dog myself and went to a track training of 6 days.
Do you mean that the dogs that the police use are general trained on every smell and not specialized in the search of cadavers?
Here in NL for example there is a woman I know who trains drugdogs and sells them to Narcotics Police in the USA.
These dogs are trained to (specialized) finding drugs,but also have to pass the exam on other skills,like for example jump/climb over a fence about 2 meters high.If they fail on one part of/during that exam,and after repeated practise still fail on the follow exams,then they are rejected as a Nacortic dog.

 

[Lorrie]

Thats was I understood from Wikipedia - I really have no clue about it beside that Norway dont have cadaver dogs. Most of the dog is protection dogs that also learn to smell cadavers, but are not specialized to find the cadavers. The rest of the dogs the police force uses is fire dogs, narcotic dogs and bomb dogs.

 

[worldwatcher]

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