Norway Norway - Oslo, WhtFem 20-30, Fake Name, shot in hotel room, Jun'95

[janewall]

Maybe? The one on her nose looks very smeared to be a mole though.

Nose
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Chin and lip
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Red by hairline, and red dot on her forehead
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hair?
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As someone who suffered from acne into my forties and still gets the occasional annoying bump when I'm pushing 60, I don't discount that possibility either.

 

[janewall]

Has anyone considered the reason why the ironing board was in the room? It hadn't been requested and it wasn't normally an item to have in the room.

She, or another person using the room, may have realized they needed it and "liberated" it from an open housekeeping supplies closet rather than calling downstairs for one to be delivered to her room. In a busy hotel, such self-service can take a lot less time.

(Not that I'd know that from personal experience. Ahem.)

Or, she may have casually asked one of the housekeepers working on her floor about getting one, and that person brought it to her without making an inventory note.

 

[branmuffin]

She, or another person using the room, may have realized they needed it and "liberated" it from an open housekeeping supplies closet rather than calling downstairs for one to be delivered to her room. In a busy hotel, such self-service can take a lot less time.

(Not that I'd know that from personal experience. Ahem.)

Or, she may have casually asked one of the housekeepers working on her floor about getting one, and that person brought it to her without making an inventory note.

Thanks for bringing me back to reality! I was starting to go down the espionage rabbit hole and start envisioning it being used to waterboard someone in the shower!

 

[janewall]

Thanks for bringing me back to reality! I was starting to go down the espionage rabbit hole and start envisioning it being used to waterboard someone in the shower!

Okay, this made me LOL, and even snort a little. Thanks for a moment of levity in an otherwise grim thread!

 

[Mireille]

As someone who suffered from acne into my forties and still gets the occasional annoying bump when I'm pushing 60, I don't discount that possibility either.

Yeah I genuinely thought the one on her chin was a popped zit. Her skin otherwise looks very smooth. She appears to take care of herself and dresses in a very classy way in a very neutral color palette. Everything she had, aside the green bag was black, grey, or white.

Those heels BTW are French heels. And they are now actually considered vintage fashion.

Thanks for bringing me back to reality! I was starting to go down the espionage rabbit hole and start envisioning it being used to waterboard someone in the shower!

LOL!!
I doubt it would come to that. Trying to envision it though. I think keeping options open in this case is healthy though. There was no espionage things found though, like with isdal woman.

I think they are now wondering if isdal woman was an art smuggler. Perhaps this is something similar.

 

[ApparentlyInDenial]

Thanks for bringing me back to reality! I was starting to go down the espionage rabbit hole and start envisioning it being used to waterboard someone in the shower!

brilliant! Well, we never know what spies can really do with ironing boards

 

[ApparentlyInDenial]

Yeah I genuinely thought the one on her chin was a popped zit. Her skin otherwise looks very smooth. She appears to take care of herself and dresses in a very classy way in a very neutral color palette. Everything she had, aside the green bag was black, grey, or white.

Those heels BTW are French heels. And they are now actually considered vintage fashion.



LOL!!
I doubt it would come to that. Trying to envision it though. I think keeping options open in this case is healthy though. There was no espionage things found though, like with isdal woman.

I think they are now wondering if isdal woman was an art smuggler. Perhaps this is something similar.

I worked in a drug-producing country a few years back and heard reports about drugs smuggled out in ironing boards. Maybe this would work for art too. Maybe she just wanted to iron though. Is there a pic of a plugged in iron? Is the iron placed near a socket?

The police are still responsible for cover-up, whatever the case.

It’s worth looking at Isdal closer with fresh eyes from the last week.

 

[Beekarina]

I actually thought she resembled Isdal woman a bit, but then I thought I was nuts.

I'm glad you guys had wacky thoughts about the ironing board, because late last night my time, I was mulling over the possibilities for nefarious things one could do with an iron?

There was also a man with all the labels cut out of his clothing who died mysteriously in Norway in the same era. "Kambo Man" I saw him mentioned the other day, but haven't gone there yet. A rainy Sunday, so why not?

Norway - Norway - The Kambo Man, 50-60 years old, 22 September 1987

 

[Beekarina]

Having read a bit about Kambo Man, and the mention of Germans in Columbia, I wonder if "Jennifer" may have actually been a "Yenifer" ?

 

[Beekarina]

Hmmm.... Paige Renkowski and "Jennifer" have similar eyes. I'm less certain about the nose, but it is difficult to compare a deceased individual with someone smiling so broadly. I would think surgical scars, etc. would have been noted on "Jennifer", but everything seems so strange as they assumed she was Belgian and a suicide initially so who knows?

Paige was a little bit taller, and a few years older. She disappeared in 1990.

For the sketch of Jennifer, I just reused the same one we have all been posting. It is widely available online.

For Paige, Disappearance of Paige Renkoski - Wikipedia

 

[Beekarina]

Also found a missing Jennifer with large green eyes. (I know green eyes can often be confused with blue, depending on hue.) There is something about her appearance that seems possible to me? (Just noting. I do not have any theories or strong feelings about these women.)

5'1"; 118 lbs Missing from California October 18, 1994



For Jennifer Gordon : The Doe Network: Case File 1166DFCA

 

[Mireille]

I worked in a drug-producing country a few years back and heard reports about drugs smuggled out in ironing boards. Maybe this would work for art too. Maybe she just wanted to iron though. Is there a pic of a plugged in iron? Is the iron placed near a socket?

The police are still responsible for cover-up, whatever the case.

It’s worth looking at Isdal closer with fresh eyes from the last week.

I believe the ironing board was for ironing her garments.

I just think she may have smuggled something into the country maybe? Her partner doubted her reliability or wanted the cut for himself and killed her.

Who knows. Lot of possibilities surrounding this. I just don't believe the suicide theory any more. I also find that image released by the police very sus.

 

[Susikatze]

I used to work as a hotel receptionist for a few years and housekeeping did not usually take notes who requested an ironing board. Upon check out, the housekeeping ladies took the ironing boards back to the supply room until the next guest requested one. It is totally possible the housekeeping staff just did not report they gave it out.
I would not read too much into it. For me, an ironing board is just that.

 

[Susikatze]

You can tell from the button placement.

Male garments have it on the right side, female on left (from wearer). You can see the difference neatly between the shirt with the pockets ("male") and the white blouse/vest/gilet next to it, which is "female".

Here’s Why Men’s and Women’s Clothes Button on Opposite Sides | Smart News | Smithsonian Magazine

Rene Lezard also has women's clothing? What do you see that is men's?

The shirt resembles the style of Eileen Fisher to me. I'm not saying it is the brand, but rather the sort of unstructured linen or cotton type of top it favors.

 

[PatLaurel]

You can tell from the button placement.

Male garments have it on the right side, female on left (from wearer). You can see the difference neatly between the shirt with the pockets ("male") and the white blouse/vest/gilet next to it, which is "female".

Here’s Why Men’s and Women’s Clothes Button on Opposite Sides | Smart News | Smithsonian Magazine

The male shirt is a Guaybera shirt. I don't think they were very common in Europe. In Spain maybe, but not in countries with cold weather all year round.

MOO JMO

 

[Susikatze]

Germany is not cold all year round.

And it has likely been worn with a jacket.

Its a Guaybera? Does it have 4 pockets?

That style of casual linen shirts was popular allover Europe in the 90s

 

[PatLaurel]

Germany is not cold all year round.

And it has likely been worn with a jacket.

Its a Guaybera? Does it have 4 pockets?

That style of casual linen shirts was popular allover Europe in the 90s

Guayaberas have either two or four pockets. But in this case i was wrong. What i thought to be pleats are just wrinkles.

Linen shirts have been popular since forever but, this specific model with two bottom pockets only, is not that "popular" nor easy to find.

Is the shirt Made in Germany?

MOO JMO

 

[Susikatze]

Dont think they released any brand name on this one.

Those colored, coarse linen shirts with pockets were fairly popular in the 90s in Europe. The upper middle class used them as casual semi dress shirts with chinos or dress pants. And the alternative crowd paired them not tucked in with carrot jeans. I recall my dad wearing some shirts like that. The US likely had a bit of a different style (e.g. i have never seen a plaid flannel in my life until I visited the US in my late teens...).

 

[PatLaurel]

Dont think they released any brand name on this one.

Those colored, coarse linen shirts with pockets were fairly popular in the 90s in Europe. The upper middle class used them as casual semi dress shirts with chinos or dress pants. And the alternative crowd paired them not tucked in with carrot jeans. I recall my dad wearing some shirts like that. The US likely had a bit of a different style (e.g. i have never seen a plaid flannel in my life until I visited the US in my late teens...).

Well, i'm from Europe and grew up with plaid shirts.
Chinos and white linen shirt combination is still a classic casual look here and it has to do with good taste IMO, but i agree with you, it was more of an upper class thing in the 90s.
Both my father and maternal grandfather wore these shirts, especially my grandfather. He was born on a mild to warm climate island, it was in his blood and, as we say here, "he left the island but the island didn't leave him".
Anyways, my point is, the shirt with two bottom pockets only is not a common shirt. You whether have four pocket shirts, two upper pockets shirts, single upper pocket shirt or pocketless (formal) shirts, but two bottom pockets only is a very unusual design. I couldn't find one so far...

MOO JMO

 

[Beekarina]

That look was fairly common in the US too. I would call it more of a "safari shirt". If you look on etsy, eBay, etc you can see similar examples of 90s safari shirt, 90s safari suit.