Noticing new things

  • #21
Goody said:
Did you go to the trial?
No. I was just living in the metroplex at the time it happened. And let me also state I tried to keep an open mind to what the media was feeding the public too. But some of it you just couldn't ignore.

That's why I've never made a decision on guilt or innocense. I think now that it is getting close to her execution I will spend the time studying the transcripts and other stuff so I'm not making a decision just on the media stuff.
 
  • #22
justice2 said:
No. I was just living in the metroplex at the time it happened. And let me also state I tried to keep an open mind to what the media was feeding the public too. But some of it you just couldn't ignore.

That's why I've never made a decision on guilt or innocense. I think now that it is getting close to her execution I will spend the time studying the transcripts and other stuff so I'm not making a decision just on the media stuff.
I still live here and I still go into that neighborhood to visit a friend and I avoid going by the house because it disturbs me to look at it. I also did not follow every bit of the trial because I had more or less made up my mind and the whole case was rather upsetting. But because of the lack of an obvious motive, I have been drawn back to it several times. One time was when she was coming up for an appeal and her mother was on TV pleading her case and inviting people to visit the website. So I did. I read whatever they were yacking about on the website and then I found where you could submit a question. So I did. I asked about the screen fragments found on the knife in the butcher block in the kitchen. A few days later I got a response. Instead of having a reasonable answer or saying that the evidence was not there (which is kind of what I was expecting) I got some side-stepping answer like, "That will all be addressed in the appeal..."

Sorry, when someone is asking me to listen to their side and I ask a direct question, I expect a direct answer. If I don't get one, then I stop listening. I wrote back to her mommy and told her Darlie was right where she belongs.

It is funny, the different things that bother people about her, isn't it? The tilt of her head, her body language, how she posed in court, whispering "I love you," to hubby in court. And the things that convince people of her guilt all differ from person to person. I saw her on TV being transferred from jail to the joint and back to the county jail in whites and handcuffs telling the camera, "I'm innocent," and I looked close to see if I could believe her and I found nothing to criticize in her pose. I found nothing offensive or telling about mouthing that she loves her hubby--people do that all the time in court. No, it took only a couple of things for me to be sure of my feelings about her:

1) LE said the crime scene did not match her story.

2) Her neck wound was distinctly different from the wounds her dead children had sustained. Too different and not a quick slash.

3) The fact that she was in shorts, snapping gum, and shooting silly string days after their deaths. I would be in a straight jacket. People mourn differently but no one mourns like that.

4) That damned knife used to cut the screen.

The screen, the screen, the screen. No getting around it. There is no way an intruder could have the knife from the butcher block before he got inside. I guess we all have our own straw, huh?
 
  • #23
Cowgirl said:
I still live here and I still go into that neighborhood to visit a friend and I avoid going by the house because it disturbs me to look at it. I also did not follow every bit of the trial because I had more or less made up my mind and the whole case was rather upsetting. But because of the lack of an obvious motive, I have been drawn back to it several times.
I might have asked you before, but is anyone living there now? And is that god-awful tacky fountain still there?

It is funny, the different things that bother people about her, isn't it? The tilt of her head, her body language, how she posed in court, whispering "I love you," to hubby in court. And the things that convince people of her guilt all differ from person to person. I saw her on TV being transferred from jail to the joint and back to the county jail in whites and handcuffs telling the camera, "I'm innocent," and I looked close to see if I could believe her and I found nothing to criticize in her pose. I found nothing offensive or telling about mouthing that she loves her hubby--people do that all the time in court. No, it took only a couple of things for me to be sure of my feelings about her:
One of the Darlie books mentioned the "I love you" thing and the little smiles she gave Darin. It was also said, might not be true, that during one appearance Dana and Darin were very close to "snuggling". Then the next AM, Darlie came into the court room pissed as all get out. No "I love you's" that day.
You're right, while the Silly String Party irks me and tells me what a dolt she is, it didn't convince me of her guilt. People grieve differently. It was the forensic evidence that got me once I started really researching this case. The screen and the bread knife, like you said, the weapon coming from their home, the different types of wounds, all the blood, that's what threw me off the fence into the "Darlie Did it Yard". Whatever it is that makes one believe Darlie did it might be different, but in the end we all reach the same conclusion.
 
  • #24
justice2 said:
Yeah, I agree with you too Beesy. I wear glasses and I can't function without them. I have a personal experience from many years ago where I was awakened abruptly about 4:30 in the morning, my house could have been burning down, a tornado coming, or any number of things, I just didn't know what was going on. I first checked on the dog (was single at the time, no kids no husband), and then I probably spent 10 minutes looking for my glasses, yes before I even called 911. And I was panicking about finding them too.
I'm like Velma without my glasses. LOL! Can't even see them, I have to pat around for them. That's the main reason I switched to disposable contacts, I can see when I open my eyes! By they way, what happened that night?


I stumbled onto those pictures of the boys a few weeks ago and it took me a while to come back to looking at stuff. It made me mad that they are posted on the internet. I think that is the first time I ever seen pictures of a murdered child (and I'm no spring chicken either). It seems so impersonal
Me too! I think I even started a thread about that. Goody, the wise one, pointed out that they are good for research, so just try to look at it that way.
 
  • #25
justice2 said:
No. I was just living in the metroplex at the time it happened. And let me also state I tried to keep an open mind to what the media was feeding the public too. But some of it you just couldn't ignore.

That's why I've never made a decision on guilt or innocense. I think now that it is getting close to her execution I will spend the time studying the transcripts and other stuff so I'm not making a decision just on the media stuff.
That is a good idea. The media makes mistakes on some of the facts but they also can dig up stuff through interviews that don't make it to trial but are nonetheless true. Sorting through it all to decide what to accept and what to toss out is the hard part.
 
  • #26
Cowgirl said:
Iit took only a couple of things for me to be sure of my feelings about her:

1) LE said the crime scene did not match her story.

2) Her neck wound was distinctly different from the wounds her dead children had sustained. Too different and not a quick slash.

3) The fact that she was in shorts, snapping gum, and shooting silly string days after their deaths. I would be in a straight jacket. People mourn differently but no one mourns like that.

4) That damned knife used to cut the screen.

The screen, the screen, the screen. No getting around it. There is no way an intruder could have the knife from the butcher block before he got inside. I guess we all have our own straw, huh?
Great post, Cowgirl!!!

I agree with all of your points, excecpt that I was willing to let her slide on the gum snapping birthday party in the cemetery just days after the brutal murders. Meaning only that I wouldn't use it in my analysis of whether she was guilty or not. I totally agree with your conclusion that no one grieves like that though. I don't think either of those parents went through the stages of grieving that most people do. We may go thru them differently, like some of us might turn to drink while others lose themselves in sleep and darkness. The point is though that we all go thru the stages. We don't skip them. Maybe they did go through stages we the public haven't seen but what we have seen of them can't be put into any of the stages and that is mindboggling. Even if she killed the kids and he wants to save her, they were still parents of two murdered children. You'd think they would feel something so deep it couldn't be hidden when they did present themselves publicly. That thing about them blows my mind.

Also, I would add to your list the blood droplets on her shirt. I have seen Dr Lee use the same tesrs to determine cast off blood paths. That is a valid test. Plus I have yet to see any defendant offer an alternative test with the same results. So what does that tell you?
 
  • #27
Another thing I've thought about lately, after watching some stuff on the TV about two teenage boys who kill one of the boys parents, has anyone looked at this from the perspective, as partners-in-crime. That the murder of Devon and Damon was something that Darlie and Darin would not do individually but with the dynamics between them would do together. I don't know of a parallel case to compare it to, but has this idea been brought up on the boards. My initial response is that we don't know enough inside information.

And one other comment about the media. Yes, the media coverage at the time was too much, and I cringed when the trial got transferred to that conservative town. But the media certainly has given the family more than enough, more than enough, coverage if they really had something to bring it to light.
 

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