NV - 4 Murders in one week, LE asking for tips, Washoe & Douglas Counties, Jan 2019 *arrest*

[oceanblueeyes]

It really did bring crime INTO our homes more than usual. Obviously, crime has been on the rise, but I have never once been afraid IN my own home until I heard about this perp. Not once! He has changed the way I look at things and I am definitely more alert now. We expect crime in certain areas, certain times of day, etc. I never thought twice about locking my door just to check the mail or go outside for a minute or to double check and scan the yard before letting our dogs out. Now I do. I also am looking into additional security measures. I have 3 large dogs. I always hoped (and still do) that they are a deterrent. These poor victims also had dogs and look what happened so it makes you think and wonder . . .I don't know. It's sad.

I agree with the resentment. Even though I wasn't personally or directly attacked or affected, he changed my security, my safety, my point of view. Maybe I was lucky or naive (or both) in the past but that has all changed. It truly stinks to feel unsafe in your own home. I am SOOOO thankful he was an idiot and they caught him quickly. I honestly cannot imagine living in fear indefinitely the way we did during the days he was loose. I really cannot. And, I know what I feel is so so minor compared to the families of the victims. I cannot even imagine what they are all going thru. I just can't. He got away with stealing--why kill them? I don't get it, I'm sure their families don't either.

What he did went above and beyond your normal robbery motive--we still don't know exact motive or reasoning. I also don't truly know if he was working alone. Even if he was, I'm not so naive to believe there aren't more out there that are eager to take his place. Hopefully the odds are none of us never have to face it, but the reality is our area is growing and crime is growing with it. I'm seeing it everywhere

Crimes like this really does deeply affect the entite communities where it happens.

Although not listed as terrorism legally it is a form of terrorism imo because of the way it spreads out and affects the entire population of citizens, and not just the randomly targeted victims.

I have been following deadly home invasion cases for many years now so when it happened again in this case, I wasn't shocked to see it had happened once again.

If you Google, 'deadly home invasions' you will see crimes like these are happening in almost every state now resulting in the occupants inside being either murdered or gravely injured.

Some of the most heinous deadly home invasion cases I've ever followed, several, but not nearly all of them, have been right here on WS throughout the years.

They have been some of the worst most chilling gruesome overkills to multiple innocent victims at one time, and were
committed by total strangers.

The depravity of some of these stranger home invaders is mind blowing.

They have done prolonged tortures...they repeatedly have raped small children and adults of both genders before murdering everyone..

In a few of the cases they set fire to the victims while alive and/or burned down the victims homes with them inside.

It seems there is no limit as to what some of these stranger intruders are capable of doing to those they didn't not even know.

I think its one if the scariest crimes because it means it could happen to any of us at any time no matter where we live.

Some of the victims had their door or windows unlocked, but most of the victims came to the door and opened it thinking the person was in some kind of distress, and needed help.

Jmo

 

[Herat]

Although not listed as terrorism legally it is a form of terrorism imo because of the way it spreads out and affects the entire population of citizens, and not just the randomly targeted victims.

This is a very apt description of the feeling that swept Northern Nevada. It was so....close and personal.

911 was a terrorism horror of incalculable impact. But yet, it was "remote" to me, even as I watched the videos, listened to President Bush, watched the country rally.

Like pandamonium commented, "we had never been afraid IN our own homes like this before"

Gun sales in Northern Nevada have been 4x the normal rate since Jan 1. And are still going. Maybe not the best solution, but it's a legal option here. CCW classes are full.

All of my friends and colleagues are talking about measures they are taking to secure their homes and the security of their families. The fellows that are seasoned hunters, well-supplied with weapons are talking about putting burglar bars on the windows of their family homes. The local Costco has sold out of their self-intall security cameras and it seems like everyone in the Ranchos can be seen out on their front porches installing them. My local Lowe's and Home Depot have sold out of Charly bars for their sliding doors.

And stupidly, I jumped this morning when the garbage truck came by and picked up and dumped the garbage bins..

The impact is still unfolding and even though this despicable punk is in jail and will be until he dies, we act as if there was, indeed, an invasion of local terrorists.

 

[Auntie Cipation]

I am a few hours from this area but Reno is one of the nearest big cities where folks from here go for major things like buying cars, medical stuff, etc. So it feels somewhat local to us too, though obviously not the same as being directly nearby.

In general I've been a bit horrified to read how fast the Reno area is growing, with all the attendant increases, including crime, that accompany it.

Decades ago, I lived near Truckee during a time when it was expanding rapidly (relatively speaking -- it's orders of magnitude smaller than Reno) and I remember hearing frustrated locals talking about the invasion of "flatlanders" who didn't know how to drive in winter conditions, especially on the hilly roads of the new housing developments. There was hope that "a few good winters" and new folks would find it too difficult and leave the area. I would wish that for Reno but it might be too late for that...

 

[oceanblueeyes]

This is a very apt description of the feeling that swept Northern Nevada. It was so....close and personal.

911 was a terrorism horror of incalculable impact. But yet, it was "remote" to me, even as I watched the videos, listened to President Bush, watched the country rally.

Like pandamonium commented, "we had never been afraid IN our own homes like this before"

Gun sales in Northern Nevada have been 4x the normal rate since Jan 1. And are still going. Maybe not the best solution, but it's a legal option here. CCW classes are full.

All of my friends and colleagues are talking about measures they are taking to secure their homes and the security of their families. The fellows that are seasoned hunters, well-supplied with weapons are talking about putting burglar bars on the windows of their family homes. The local Costco has sold out of their self-intall security cameras and it seems like everyone in the Ranchos can be seen out on their front porches installing them. My local Lowe's and Home Depot have sold out of Charly bars for their sliding doors.

And stupidly, I jumped this morning when the garbage truck came by and picked up and dumped the garbage bins..

The impact is still unfolding and even though this despicable punk is in jail and will be until he dies, we act as if there was, indeed, an invasion of local terrorists.

Ita!

The reason I think home invasions strikes so much fear in all of us that knows about them is there seems to be no rhyme or reason for what many have done to total innocent victims.

Where in the world does such violence, rage, and hatred come from when they didn't know their victims?

At one time what home intruders never wanted to do is enter a home that was occupied.

Now we are seeing more and more home invasions where they are striking occupied homes even with multiple people inside, and the results of those violent acts are horrifying for all of the victims inside.

Is it because they know if the victims are inside their home they will have their wallets, smart phones, and purses with them including debt or credit cards?

IDRK, but all I do know is so many of them seem to relish in the unimaginable macarbe violent acts they do against everyone inside of their home.

Its those known horrendous violent acts being committed against those they didn't even know that is the most bone chilling.

Just trying to digest those facts and understand why in the world they had to overkill their victims and toturously brutalize them beforehand is unexplainable to me.

Each one could have easily robbed the people or home, and left but so many didnt want do that.

What they wound up doing to the occupants trapped inside with them were so over the top, and filled with pure evil worse than any scary movie that could ever be made.

While we can try to secure, and protect ourselves as much as possible we still don't live our lives in caves.

It's hard to protect oneself when none of us are even aware we are being watched or stalked by the next home invasion stranger nor do we know who they even are.

In many cases now they are using females as bait to get the owner to open the door whether its early morning or in the middle of the day or at night.

Unfortunately, many are still way too trusting, and have paid the ultimate price for it just because they wanted to help someone they thought needed their assistance.

It's truly heartbreaking how so many good, decent, kind, and caring people have wound up victims.

It's all so frightening it's come to this in almost every area now.

Imo

 

[kirkassoc]

Suspect in four Northern Nevada murders arrested

According to this article, a suspect has been arrested. An ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT, 19-year-old Wilber Ernesti Martinez-Guzman is in custody in the Carson City jail on an immigration charge and at least one of stolen property possession. He is also on an immigration hold, and Carson City Sheriff Ken Furlong says while the suspect has apparently been in the Carson City area at least a year, he is in the United States illegally. (photo in article).

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I may be the only one who is confused by the new banner at the top of WS that Tricia put up a couple of days ago saying LE needs help.

They had already arrested Guzman and LE said they believe he acted alone and is the only suspect involved in the 4 murders.

So what am I missing? LOL!

 

[pandamonium]

I may be the only one who is confused by the new banner at the top of WS that Tricia put up a couple of days ago saying LE needs help.

They had already arrested Guzman and LE said they believe he acted alone and is the only suspect involved in the 4 murders.

So what am I missing? LOL!

hmm, interesting. Yeah, it's showing at the top of this forum now. I'd think they should update it to focus on other cases that need attention vs this one since they caught the perp here. Course, I can't imagine the task of keeping up to date on the thousands of cases that come across here.

ETA: I sent a pm to somebody to let them know. I never noticed those banners before but it's on all the forums--it doesn't need to be drawing attention since there's been an arrest so hopefully they can switch it to another case that needs more attention than this one.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Thank you Panda. I thought surely I was missing something, but I think it's just an innocent mistake. I can understand that, since like you said, there are so many cases to keep up with.

 

[Subiechik21]

I may be the only one who is confused by the new banner at the top of WS that Tricia put up a couple of days ago saying LE needs help.

They had already arrested Guzman and LE said they believe he acted alone and is the only suspect involved in the 4 murders.

So what am I missing? LOL!

I was very confused too! You were not the only one.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I was very confused too! You were not the only one.

Thank you.

Yippee! It's great to know I wasn't the only one.

I'm a stickler to details so I noticed it immediately, but then second guessed myself into thinking that I must be missing an important piece. LOL!

 

[oceanblueeyes]

At one time is was unheard of to read about deadly home invasions in our local and surrounding area newspapers whether print or online news sites.

That has drastically changed in the past few years. There has been an uptick in these kind of violent crimes.

What I normally saw for many years were typical cases of breaking, and entering robbing the homeowners when they were gone.

They still report on those type of cases, but now it isnt uncommon to read about another deadly home invasions where the home was occupied.

One that happened last year they bludgeoned the elderly man's head so badly he is forever brain damaged, and must have around the clock care. He did open his door even though late at night. They yelled through the door they needed help because their car had broken down and he believed them.

One of the worst home invasion cases I've read didn't result in death to the three occupants inside though.

Iirc, there were 2 or 3 suspects involved. Anyway they demanded money, and they had none to give them.

Instead of leaving they all tortured the 3 victims for 3 days. They tied up the 2 adult men then they repeatedly raped the female victim in front of the men, but that was not enough to satisfy the evil they all possessed. For days they took power tools, and drilled into the knees, and ankles of each of the men before finally leaving.

It shows there is something very sinister, and evil within the suspects who do these type of deadly home invasions. They are a different type than others. Imo

Even most murderers who knew their victims personally they usually do not go to these sadistic barbaric degrees of pain and torture like we are seeing with many of these strangers who knowingly invade occupied homes.

Many can be only described as demonic, and evil.

So that is why the thought of home invasions terrifies most everyone including me.

Imo

 

[Herat]

Well, oceanblueeyes, those invasions are certainly horrible and psychotic and give me immensely uncomfortable feeelings just reading about it.

As for Martinez-Guzman, I feel his criminality is not just a huge need for money...

He confessed that he killed the David's about 6 am on Jan 16.

I distinctly remember there was a really bad snow storm on Jan 15 evening. We were watching the winds and the snow accumulating all day long. People started leaving work early as it got darker and colder as the roads were slippery and traffic was terribly backed up with spinouts for the evening commute. A friend said it took her almost 4 hours to get from southern Carson City to Sparks.

So it wasn't a good time for a perp to be out and about cruising through neighborhoods for victims. By 6 am, not all that many roads had been plowed and there were still chain requirements up.

How driven was he to go from CC to south Reno at ~ 5 am to go murder them in those conditions? What was it that made it critical to do it Wed, and not wait until Thursday when the roads had cleared.

His story still doesn't entirely hold together for me and although LE says he acted alone, I think there were others that knew of his actions and were assisting with handling his stolen goods.

 

[pandamonium]

I can remember those storms as well and hating the wind. We were on such high alert that the winds made it harder to hear unusual noises or if they knocked something over, we were extra paranoid. Then the snow brought the quiet.

I agree . .. Why that night/day? Why go back. why go back on that particular day in that weather. So many why's.
Something is not sitting right with this. I cannot pinpoint it and perhaps we will never know. I mean, after all, these are not normal people. Normal people do not stalk, rob and kill people!

It's all subjective and perspective as well, but it's so sad too that these people--well 3 of the 4, were robbed and killed for relatively not super high dollar items. Sure, they can cost a bit new, but pawning didn't net a fraction of any resale value. I mean, he'd have to steal a ton to make a living doing that at that return, you know? Not very bright or sophisticated, obviously.

And, the 2nd victim wasn't robbed so WHY was he there? So much of this case does not make any sense. Most criminals are fairly consistent--this guy appears to be all over the place--quite literally.

 

[Herat]

FYI

Family of murdered couple will appear at State of the Union

 

[pandamonium]

https://www.rgj.com/story/news/crim...u7pEWymC7_6R-DkhVQAxXZtSKJOU0nogGlzKzujJiKYnc

The man suspected of murdering four people in Reno and Gardnerville is set for a preliminary hearing this week for burglary-related charges in Carson City.

Wilber Martinez-Guzman is scheduled for the hearing at 9:30 a.m. Friday at the Carson City Justice Court. He faces 36 counts of felony weapons charges, burglary charges, possession of stolen items and immigration charges.

He also faces murder charges in Washoe County, but a court hearing has not been set yet. As of Tuesday, it was not known when the murder case against him would proceed.

An announcement on Martinez-Guzman will also be made at the upcoming preliminary hearing, Carson City court administrator Maxine Cortes said in a recent email to the Reno Gazette Journal.

Cortes said she could not say what the announcement will be about.

 

[pandamonium]

What led to arrest of Wilber Martinez-Guzman

Douglas County Sheriff Investigator Brandon Williamson talks about what led to the arrest of Wilber Martinez-Guzman.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Living in this area, these crimes have really upset a great many people. Stores sold out of pepper spray, gun counters couldn't get the background checks turned around fast enough. People were lined up at gun counters. All sorts of stuff has now boosted the self-protection business. Try getting an appointment for someone to install a security system !

I signed up for a CCW class to get license to carry a weapon. Not at all what I would have predicted I would be doing a year ago. The instructor highly recommended to me says he had 30 women sign up for his classes in ONE DAY. And he is booked 2 weeks out.....

So, the anxiety has been high but we have all learned some lessons from this.

All those that LE has recommended. Most of all LOCK YOUR DOORS. Reportedly he entered all the residences through unlocked doors, and he had been doing some lawn service work for all 3 locations. There is some other information out there that LE hasn't released or doesn't want to release at this point, but this was more than just a crime of random opportunity. All 3 of the locations had dogs. Was he familiar enough that the dogs didn't alarm on him?

He was able to size up his targets. And it was all for theft to pawn stuff. All inconsequential "stuff". All for pawn.

The following is MYOO, and the information comes from a very trusted friend who is heavily into security. Gangs operate like sales groups. Everyone has a quota. Like bring in $300 this week to stay in the group. LE had said he worked alone, OK, fine. I'll take them at their word for this. But I have lots of questions.

But this crime spree, that we know about, was happening with some terrifying regularity.... like every 3-4 days. As if he had a deadline to come up with $$$. And he was pawing stuff within 24 hours of the attacks and victim's murders. AND: He was apprehended about 4 days after the David's murder with the same gun in his car at night. Where was he going? Was he planning another murder/robbery? Stuff that makes you go.....hmmmm

LE says he wasnt known to them. He really only came to their attention after the murder of Connie Koontz, with an item stolen from a previous employer, Gerry David. MOO: I believe there is a pawn history on him a mile long, Reno, Carson City, Dayton, Gardnerville, all over the place. MOO, MOO, MOO.

I resent all that this has made me feel. And now I'm spending $$$ on upgrading security, hoarding pepper spray all over, looking at putting window bars and security doors and other visible deterrents up. I hate him for making me scrutinize every hispanic face I am not familiar with in the neighborhood For making me feel terrified to have the lawn service back in a a month or two. I just hate this.

Before this, I was far more worried about identity theft and phishing scams....

Thank you for reminding us of the safety precautions that have become good practice everywhere. Good for you for being proactive and getting your CCW. I pray the only time you have to draw is at the range. I'm very sorry for the terror that this man has set upon your community. I appreciate the information on how theft gangs work. I had no idea that they have quotas. It's logical, but not anything I would have considered. Stay safe!

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Crimes like this really does deeply affect the entite communities where it happens.

Although not listed as terrorism legally it is a form of terrorism imo because of the way it spreads out and affects the entire population of citizens, and not just the randomly targeted victims.

I have been following deadly home invasion cases for many years now so when it happened again in this case, I wasn't shocked to see it had happened once again.

If you Google, 'deadly home invasions' you will see crimes like these are happening in almost every state now resulting in the occupants inside being either murdered or gravely injured.

Some of the most heinous deadly home invasion cases I've ever followed, several, but not nearly all of them, have been right here on WS throughout the years.

They have been some of the worst most chilling gruesome overkills to multiple innocent victims at one time, and were
committed by total strangers.

The depravity of some of these stranger home invaders is mind blowing.

They have done prolonged tortures...they repeatedly have raped small children and adults of both genders before murdering everyone..

In a few of the cases they set fire to the victims while alive and/or burned down the victims homes with them inside.

It seems there is no limit as to what some of these stranger intruders are capable of doing to those they didn't not even know.

I think its one if the scariest crimes because it means it could happen to any of us at any time no matter where we live.

Some of the victims had their door or windows unlocked, but most of the victims came to the door and opened it thinking the person was in some kind of distress, and needed help.

Jmo

I agree with you. These crimes are so random that they absolutely can cause an entire region to feel terror and be terrorized. In that regard, it is terrorism. It disrupts the way people travel, the way they engage with others, and even eventually the local economy, not to mention what it does to people on a personal level. If thieves feel they must steal, whatever, but why go further in victimizing people? It's so unnecessary and irrational.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Lawn service jobs dry up in late Oct here and LE reported he last worked for the David's in Nov 2018.

So no more cash $$ coming in. What to do, what to do?

So he is burglarizing houses he has worked at or someone else has worked at. (Lots of stolen goods found in the Menlo St apt he lived at with at least his mother. A set of golf clubs belonging to a woman who lived in a mobile home park about 1.5 miles away was found in the apt). And it's easy work, just have to find places to pawn the stuff. As we've seen he can recoup about $600 a week with 3 burglaries

So he goes to the David's on Jan 3 and burglarizes their trailer which had fishing gear and some lawn service electrics, and there was a hunting bag...... Maybe he opened it on Jan 3 and realized it had ammo and a gun. Maybe he didn't take it Jan 3.

LE tells us he came back to the David's trailer AGAIN, likely Jan 4 and now takes the weapon.

GAMECHANGER
Now he has something to give him more confidence in his constant burglary. Now something happens that sets him apart from just a thief, but opens up something amoral in him.

IMOO, something immoral was alive and working within him well before he happened on a gun and some ammo during the process of committing a crime. To suggest otherwise is to give those objects too much power and to let him off the hook. I don't for a New York minute think that this was a split second decision he made once he came across a gun. After all, he came across them every day he visited a pawn shop. Had he not used a gun, he'd have killed with something else, a bat, a golf club. He's just a stone-cold murderer. Otherwise, why not take the trinkets and leave. He wanted to kill, imhoo.

 

[pandamonium]

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