If he and his brother were wealthy from real estate dealings, there will be records. Will be interesting to see how quickly the information turns up.
The brother..............................
I agree and I have just not got this vibe of all this wealth. wealth might also take us to a big precipitator of his recent decisions.
A predisposition to mental illness has been clearly established to genetics in the literature and clinical data.
The brothers relentless focus on his brother being a successful human being
solely on
alleged wealth accumulation, can also swing us around to loss of such
alleged can exacerbate mental illness moo
Imo his rumination of brain tumors strikes me of childhood messages like your father brain is different than others (messages along those lines)
His notion that the families childhood experiences would result in this profound reported altruistic tendencies flies in the face of the little confirmed info we have now of the entire family system.
His behavior in and of itself can only be described solely imo, as bizarre, disjointed in thought, deceitful ( the one that stood out to me - there were several- was the utterance about his gun ownership that he changed instantly -- almost as if he realized that could easily be determined by authorities .
I certainly have empathy for the what must have been a very challenging upbringing- however imo the brothers beliefs, rationalizations are very hard to line up imo
And hey I know my observations can at time seem intense I found his body language on the second long one (interview) as really odd.
Planting his legs in that position and leaning up against that car with his coffee cup outstretched looked more like someone that was getting ready to discuss a great football game or something.
I know that sounds strange but it just struck me so instantly - just strange.
Emotionally at times he seemed almost childlike while at that same time moo appears as if many who would have initial interaction with him like in a grocery line would have some cautionary vibes.
The reporters behaviors mimicked what I was emotionally experiencing as I was observing and listening.
Empathy, anger, mistrust and confusion.
The messaging about his understanding of his brothers relationship was wildly hard to believe. It certainly makes sense if he was unaware of their , let say, intimacy makes sense.
But a complete unawareness of the relationship itself is just strange. I am not close with either sister but I do know they are married - and have never given anyone two different versions of that fact.
Throughout the boasting of wealth did he ever reveal what he did. ?
Initially as info broke he was like an engineer at Martin - which then reality check ending up being a bookkeeper. On and off not career track.
Then a mailman for a short period of time.
Initially the notion was this affluent lifestyle filled with five star accommodations that became comped stuff.
I do not know this but my assumption would be casino management would be very inclined to provide an unused room and some food to a patron that
loses
money more than wins.
His final chapter was finely planned imo indicated he had decided to kill himself.
A millionaire (brothers description solely at this point) who loves a 62 year old woman, who knows he will be dead soon - would send (since it seems that his how he did it) more than a 100000 for the rest of her life.
Most would do a will - so we will see if that plays out.
Affluent folks generally take care of end of life money issues via will , not going to a 7-11 or whatever for money transfer !
Struck me more as a dude who money was very short and had better get something to her before there is nothing left at all but debt. moo
I would really have to conclude that a brother who has no clue what his brothers marital status is sure is not going to be having long conversations about his brother's mental status.
It certainly has gotten a lot better in terms of males addressing acknowledging mental illness , however, at no time did the brother appear "enlightened" regarding mental illness or anything else.
His need defend his having crying bouts also appears to reinforce some pretty old school beliefs as it relates to men and feelings.
His notions about the male role as being defined as the bread earner is imo pretty conservative beliefs regarding gender roles .
The notion that someone that out of touch with a sibling can declare that his brother had no been having mental issues for many years hold little validity imo
His get me a sandwich example had no meaning whatsoever. What the heck was he even trying to illustrate? Just peculiar.
While describing his brother as loved by money and ten seconds basically describing his brother as quite difficult to be around at times is incongruent.
There would be few people in my life that would not universally agree that I can be high maintenance!
Imo most of us do have general temperament - in most arenas the brother is all over the place in his attempt to provide the world an inner glimpse of his brother.
I did not hear the earlier stuff about the brothers reports of the gf employ but in the second interview it sounded as if he had reported something that was totally errounoues in an earlier interview regarding gf employ and how they met.
I would think that a nomad vagabond existence is actually more evident of severe adjustment issues as it relates to mental stability and resultant issues as opposed to a wildly neurotic adjusted adult.
Sounds superficial but for a man who endless harped on being millionaires and living an exoctic life via his brother while having a whatever Pinto in the driveway does not ring congruent!
Folks with ,imo ,that need and want to be perceived as wildly wealthy would have a passion for having a Bentley in the driveway as opposed to a ugly orange Pinto or whatever !!! Just saying!
The house looked middle class Americana to me.
Millionaires can typically obtain their own walkers if needed?
Folks that can be quirky and (can't remember brothers description ) gossip about others (but according to the brother who doesn't) typically do not end up tossing bullets into 500 strangers, and one in ones mouth.
It is certainly understandable that he is experiencing distress. His distress , however, to stem more from his false understanding of who his brother actually was - as opposed to any authentic concern about the experiences of the 23 000 people in attendance.
From the first interview it struck me as the brother had a lot of confused feelings and thought about his brother, his feelings for his brother . It struck me as the role was more of a father than sibling.
It would appear that this (fantasy bonding) would be very very very traumatic for him. It is rewounding for this poor man.
It is imo replication of his bio father and all the trauma he experienced in dealing with his father -- being triggered by his brother being gone, his brother as providing him some sort of feelings of safety. He is now thrust back into a very scary place in his own life. Another caretaker gone.
[FONT=&]Fantasy bonding as it relates to brothers relationship with shooter:
...fantasy bond is a type of relationship where the basic tie is based on routines and [/FONT]roles[FONT=&], rather than spontaneous feelings.[/FONT][SUP]
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imaginary connection formed originally by the infant with the parent or primary caregiver,
also describes an illusory connection to another person that adults attempt to establish in their intimate associations,
.... type of bond is differentiated from the positive bonding that occurs in secure attachments....
bond offers an illusion of love which prevents real emotional contact, and can be linked to the pseudo-independence of the self-parenting character.[/FONT][SUP]
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..... origins of a fantasy bond can be found in the failures of childhood parenting, [/FONT]denial[FONT=&] of which leads to an over-valuation and [/FONT]idealisation[FONT=&] of the parent/parents in question.[/FONT][SUP]
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The result can be a sense of [/FONT]grandiosity[FONT=&] based on the internalisation of the parental value systems,[/FONT][SUP]
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[FONT=&]an acceptance of the [/FONT]inner critic[FONT=&] with its [/FONT]automatic thoughts[SUP]
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[FONT=&] as a substitute for real relating.
....over-idealisation of the past protects against the re-emergence of painful memories, .... (dad)
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[FONT=&] The fantasy bond acts as a painkiller that cuts off feeling responses and interferes with the development of a true sense of self,
......... the more a person comes to rely on fantasies of connection, ....[/FONT][SUP]
The fantasy bond is the primary defense against separation anxiety, interpersonal pain, and existential dread
.....later life the fantasy bond may provide an illusory sense of safety against the threat of the approach of death.[SUP]
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. A fantasy bond allows them to maintain a certain emotional distance while relieving loneliness,...`
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Hey just saying if I were clinically involved with this family system I would be doing some suicide education for family members while seriously assessing him often.........
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The setting up cameras , more than anything , imo seems to illustrate intense determination not to be interrupted until he had completed what he wanted completed.
The brother flipping this around to some notion of genius as opposed to desperation is , to say the least rather alarming.
Basically boasting that his brother has been wildly manipulative throughout his life , as some positive trait is twisted.
IMO an inability to get needs met in a healthy manner as opposed to deceiving others in order to do so is pathology not a genius deal.
As we go this strikes me as profoundly mentally disturbed individual whose illness resulted in his choices and behaviors the other night.
just a ramble moo!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasy_bond
https://www.nimh.nih.gov/news/scien...or-mental-disorders-share-genetic-roots.shtml
