NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #6

[Deleted member 158085]

Well to be fair looney woman was the only type of "media", in the vicinity. Why is that for a local hero? Seemed really quiet around his house to need any security from what I saw.

Why is MGM paying for security? I don't personally believe it's because of CT. They don't give a crap when it means $$$ from their pockets sorry

He thought it was in his best interest to not be interviewed? I don't recall that being said? We haven't heard from him

Union president did say he was unaware of his whereabouts, as did MSM say no one knows where he is

If LE interviewed him, why is the timeline so f*ed up? He was there as it happened.
Who better then the source??

License stuff was not debunked. mOOcOw was saying all security guards need one and he doesn't have one? Unclear to me

Having questions for someone who was there and first on the scene is natural curiosity. All this hiding out just makes it look completely messy and strange. MOO

I think people genuinely affected by this won't believe much of what's said now. 2 weeks later and still nothing except the world drawing their own conclusions.

For example, I'm a tiny minnow in a huge ocean but no one will ever convince me now be acted alone. JMO




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Perhaps MSM has better sense than stalk and harass a victim, unlike Laura Loomer.

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[canadiangirl]

Campos has been interviewed by LE and his story has been tested against the evidence, unlike random Facebook users who may or may not have been at the shooting.

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Lol no just their video is from a bus shelter with the shooting taking place above their heads! Or from the festival itself helping usher people out. Or inside Bellagio amist chaos.
These people were there. Was JC? We have no video. That's how ridiculous people are sounding when they say these disrespectful things about people who were there. IN FACT, since at have no video from JC or MB, why discount those who actually do show video and talk about their experience?
I didn't read JC was interviewed by LE and his story has been tested because quite frankly there are multiple versions of this "story"
Moo
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[canadiangirl]

Perhaps MSM has better sense than stalk and harass a victim, unlike Laura Loomer.

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How is wanting to talk to a hero stalking and harassing him?
It's the media. Most don't give a crap.they are paid to report on what they are told.
IMO

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[Deleted member 158085]

It was a question not a statement.
However anyone know what a quick clinic is?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4980288/Hero-Las-Vegas-security-visits-quick-clinic.html

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We explained quick clinics before. Sometimes called urgent care clinics, walk in clinics, convenient care clinics, etc. No need for an appointment, accessible when you need care without having to wait a week for your doctor, and cheaper and more convenient than an ER.

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[Deleted member 158085]

Lol no just their video is from a bus shelter with the shooting taking place above their heads! Or from the festival itself helping usher people out. Or inside Bellagio amist chaos.
These people were there. Was JC? We have no video. That's how ridiculous people are sounding when they say these disrespectful things about people who were there.
I didn't read JC was interviewed by LE and his story has been tested because quite frankly there are multiple versions of this "story"
Moo
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I don't know which random Facebook users were or were not there. I don't look at random Facebook videos. If someone has a story to tell they ought to contact the media, who would be all over it. Let the media weed out who was legitimately there first. I don't have time to weed through YouTube and Facebook and try to determine who is legit. That's the media's and LE's job.

And that's why WS does NOT allow us to link to or discuss random Facebook comments.

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[CoolJ]

Campos has been interviewed by LE and his story has been tested against the evidence, unlike random Facebook users who may or may not have been at the shooting.

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Wow. You really are calling them liars.

How about you actually watch a few of these videos and you will see these people also have pictures and video of themselves at the concert. Why the hesitation to believe them? They are victims of this tragedy for gods sake.

 

[canadiangirl]

I don't know which random Facebook users were or were not there. I don't look at random Facebook videos. If someone has a story to tell they ought to contact the media, who would be all over it. Let the media weed out who was legitimately there first. I don't have time to weed through YouTube and Facebook and try to determine who is legit. That's the media's and LE's job.

And that's why WS does NOT allow us to link to or discuss random Facebook comments.

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Well if that's your stance then JC hasn't contacted the media.
And as I said, it's quite clear when video was taken the night of.
I'm sure you've seen it. It's also how MSM gets a lot of their info.
Facebook users, twitter users etc

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[Deleted member 158085]

Wow. You really are calling them liars.

How about you actually watch a few of these videos and you will see these people also have pictures and video of themselves at the concert. Why the hesitation to believe them? They are victims of this tragedy for gods sake.

No, I'm not. I'll copy my message from above here.

I don't know which random Facebook users were or were not there. If someone has a story to tell they ought to contact the media, who would be all over it. Let the media weed out who was legitimately there first. I don't have time to weed through YouTube and Facebook and try to determine who is legit. That's the media's and LE's job.

And that's why WS does NOT allow us to link to or discuss random Facebook comments.

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[Deleted member 158085]

Well if that's your stance then JC hasn't contacted the media.
And as I said, it's quite clear when video was taken the night of.
I'm sure you've seen it. It's a to how MSM gets a lot of their info.
Facebook users, twitter users etc

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He doesn't need to contact the media. He is in contact with LE. Read what I wrote more closely.

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[Jennifer17]

Wow. You really are calling them liars.

How about you actually watch a few of these videos and you will see these people also have pictures and video of themselves at the concert. Why the hesitation to believe them? They are victims of this tragedy for gods sake.

And so was the security guard. He was right there.

 

[CoolJ]

No, I'm not. I'll copy my message from above here.

I don't know which random Facebook users were or were not there. If someone has a story to tell they ought to contact the media, who would be all over it. Let the media weed out who was legitimately there first. I don't have time to weed through YouTube and Facebook and try to determine who is legit. That's the media's and LE's job.

And that's why WS does NOT allow us to link to or discuss random Facebook comments.

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The media are not doing their job for whatever reason. I am not making stuff up here my friend. I know it is hard for you to believe, but there are people (VICTIMS) with stories to tell. You obviously haven't seen what I have seen, so maybe everyone could do a little more research and listen to what these people are saying. It is a disservice to the victims if you do not. IMO

 

[Jennifer17]

Is there some law somewhere that says victims of crimes have to give press interviews?

 

[CoolJ]

And so was the security guard. He was right there.

Yes absolutely Campos was a victim and likely a hero. You are arguing with nobody.

 

[canadiangirl]

And so was the security guard. He was right there.

But he hasn't spoken out like some others have and you believe him without even hearing anything he says and discredit others. Wow.
I'm not saying JC is involved in anything. But he has said squat.


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[canadiangirl]

The media are not doing their job for whatever reason. I am not making stuff up here my friend. I know it is hard for you to believe, but their are people (VICTIMS) with stories to tell. You obviously haven't seen what I have seen, so maybe everyone could do a little more research and listen to what these people are saying. It is a disservice to the victims if you do not. IMO

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[zencompass]

How is wanting to talk to a hero stalking and harassing him?
It's the media. Most don't give a crap.they are paid to report on what they are told.
IMO

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Hi Canadiangirl,

I hear what you are saying and normally there are no concerns about speaking to a hero.

This case is different because of the changing timelines, many questions unanswered. Because of this lack of information - think Boston bomber where every single detail was analyzed over and over again (the public was satisfied) - and then this case which seems as if the public is not being told the facts. It's human nature to have questions about any of these tragic events.

Because of the limited facts and detail - the internet is ablaze with "conspiracy". That's why I worry for this security guard's safety, as I know everyone does.

And then changing a crucial timeline. Which can and does happen in investigations.

However, in this case, the change in timeline affects the scope of lawsuits and especially the stock price of MGM as well as future p.r. for Mandalay resort hotel. Las Vegas can't afford to have the public thinking their hotels are not "safe".

They have to shut down questions and concerns about a possible delay in contacting 911 and lack of security/safety/cameras.

I don't believe this is a "conspiracy" yet, in my opinion, money and power are doing the talking here and forced out the revised timeline. We're talking millions and billions of dollars. Because of this, my own opinion, I predict that we won't learn anything else from law enforcement.

They will say it's an open and shut case. It's too bad because this type of behavior from officials leads to conspiracy thinking.

Aside from "conspiracy thinking" , the public wants more answers/facts. Asking questions is human nature.

Just my own thoughts and opinions.

 

[canadiangirl]

He doesn't need to contact the media. He is in contact with LE. Read what I wrote more closely.

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I read it. So because he's in contact with LE he's to be believed over other victims?

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[Deleted member 158085]

The media are not doing their job for whatever reason. I am not making stuff up here my friend. I know it is hard for you to believe, but their are people (VICTIMS) with stories to tell. You obviously haven't seen what I have seen, so maybe everyone could do a little more research and listen to what these people are saying. It is a disservice to the victims if you do not. IMO

Excuse me, but I am well aware of the victims. There are probably 21,000 people out there with some form of PTSD, and to a degree they are all victims even if they weren't injured. I read everything I see from legitimate news sources where the victims are speaking.

I also come to websleuths because I always had a sense of its legitimacy based on the forum rules. Those rules include, whether you like it or not, not linking to or discussing unverified information from SM.

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[Jennifer17]

The media are not doing their job for whatever reason. I am not making stuff up here my friend. I know it is hard for you to believe, but there are people (VICTIMS) with stories to tell. You obviously haven't seen what I have seen, so maybe everyone could do a little more research and listen to what these people are saying. It is a disservice to the victims if you do not. IMO

Really? You think that the press, who loves a sensational story are ignoring all the facebook posters? Could it be that they were not even there?

 

[bluesneakers]

Meh. I doubt they will admit it to the news media. If they want to talk to him, they'll find him. If they're not concerned, I'm not concerned. Hate to see another Richard Jewell scenario, ruining an innocent person's life.

I would hate to see what happened to Richard Jewell happen again too. He went from hero to bomber poi and they destroyed his life. By the time they attempted to make it right, and call him hero again, it was too late.