NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #6

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  • #541
Was it ever reported who else's cell phone charger was in the room?.. I remember reading it but not sure if it's know yet?

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It was reported that it was his. They eventually matched all devices and chargers.

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  • #542
Ugh oh

Chick fight

Gay men tend to love watching the gals get into it ha !


Hisssssssssssss

ha!

Wicked chit, you.

(Laughing, tho)
 
  • #543
Why does a lone gunman need multiple cell phones?
I know people who carry second batteries, spare chargers etc
The only people I've heard of that carry lots of phones are people who need "burner" phones. Moo

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I remember reading something that was linked here about him having almost a compulsion about always having cell service. Therefore, he used at least 2 cell carriers so he would always have coverage. I can actually see jet setters who travel a lot doing this, especially if they have any kind of OCD.

I have OCD and anxiety. I am darn glad this is not one of my hang-ups because I would not be able to afford multiple carriers.

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  • #544
Why did he need 15+ guns (I don’t remember the number off hand)? He clearly was paranoid
This builds off of what I just posted about OCD and anxiety. And remember, he had a Valium prescription. I can see an anxious person doing this if they have the money.

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  • #545
This is from oct 2... I am just wondering if it’s still accurate bc it went from employee id to players card to a bellhop taking him in the elevator.
When an incident occurs a police officer will want to talk to the persons involved immediately.. Why do you think this is? It's so your perception or recollection of something cant be tainted by other means.
I for one tend to feel there is more credibility at the time it happened then days later.
Was she an employee? I don't know. Was her ID there. Yes. Why?
Was it employee ID from another hotel that resembles employee ID close enough he could flash it? Maybe.
MOO

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  • #546
It was reported that it was his. They eventually matched all devices and chargers.

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Yes I just read that he had multiple phones. Why would a retiree need multiple cell phones?

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  • #547
Yes I just read that he had multiple phones. Why would a retiree need multiple cell phones?

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I think it was a psychological need that ties into his anxiety. The gun collection may have actually started out this way as well, but spiraled out of control and turned into something much more sinister.

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  • #548
When an incident occurs a police officer will want to talk to the persons involved immediately.. Why do you think this is? It's so your perception or recollection of something cant be tainted by other means.
I for one tend to feel there is more credibility at the time it happened then days later.
Was she an employee? I don't know. Was her ID there. Yes. Why?
Was it employee ID from another hotel that resembles employee ID close enough he could flash it? Maybe.
MOO

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True. This is just the only source I can find that says employee id. Everything else says identification.
 
  • #549
I agree! [emoji169]


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Its just strange stuff . For some reason 20000 people cant tell where bullets are coming at them from?

People don't need to be a forensic bullet expert to know of a bullet whizzed by your skull from back to left or front to back etc .

They were there . Cops experts and witnesses say there was more than one shooter .

Watching the videos you can easily ascertain a echo from another gun from a
different location , at a different rate of fire with different sounding bullets .

It is clear. Concise.

Now I could understand if the world had doubt if folks were discussing its caliber or something - but I am confident if I were on the ground and noises are coming from the hotel and suddenly a barrage of gunfire comes from my behind me my ears and body would be able to ascertain that!!

There are times where you hear two guns at the same time echos are echos they sound LIKE original source -- not totally different

its bizarre

and I feel for these people as well .

It identical emotional scaring as a rape victim being told it really did not happen

Deeply stalls PTSD work they need validation of there experiences . How can that feel real to these folks when they are hearing all over the media that there was only one - when they are standing there facing the stage and lets say a bullet comes into there back -- much can be determined here by impact wounds - the way bodies fell in conjuction with folks that were standing half an inch away from them when the bullet hit, how their friends body fell , what those around them heard saw and felt

For the first time in years for some reason this time the nation wants it to be a white mass solo lone wolf.

Usually media scrambles to turn stuff into a massive terrorist attack- this time we have 1000;s of hours of video and officials want it to be a lone wolf

One has to IMO take a step back and ask oneself why do authorities need this to be a lone wolf - when clearly that is not what happened.

The logical answer is there is something that powerful entities do not want the public to know

Pulse ran in MSM for months . Manchester ran for weeks .

This was fading in 72 hours .

There are reasons for everything

There are reasons why nothing makes sense - cause it ain't the truth.

Truth tends to fit in an order.

moo
 
  • #550
I don't see him as paranoid as the reason for so many guns. Paranoid people typically don't want to be in huge crowds of people, which SP didn't seem to mind.
 
  • #551
Yes I just read that he had multiple phones. Why would a retiree need multiple cell phones?

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I think it was his brother? That said he had two phone carriers in case one server was down and he needed to play his casino.
 
  • #552
It was widely reported to have been MD's ID during the first days of this case. Remember her photo was being displayed for people to call in as she was a POI>
 
  • #553
This builds off of what I just posted about OCD and anxiety. And remember, he had a Valium prescription. I can see an anxious person doing this if they have the money.

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Was it said somewhere he had OCD, paranoia and anxiety?
I thought results weren't back yet. Are these profiles of SP from online chatter and people who knew him?
Other then a prescription? I know people who are prescribed meds and take as needed or dont even bother.

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  • #554
Why does a lone gunman need multiple cell phones?
I know people who carry second batteries, spare chargers etc
The only people I've heard of that carry lots of phones are people who need "burner" phones. Moo

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cell phones can be used to set off bombs.
 
  • #555
I don't see him as paranoid as the reason for so many guns. Paranoid people typically don't want to be in huge crowds of people, which SP didn't seem to mind.

He played high stakes slots, it’s not as if he was crowded around a craps table with 20 other people, or even the regular slot areas which tend to be more packed. High stakes slots usually have their own designated room. He sat by himself and played video slots for hours upon hours.
 
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It was widely reported to have been MD's ID during the first days of this case. Remember her photo was being displayed for people to call in as she was a POI>

I’m aware. Authorities have said he was found with her identification. I only remember hearing it was an employee ID card briefly in the very beginning.
 
  • #558
Its just strange stuff . For some reason 20000 people cant tell where bullets are coming at them from?

People don't need to be a forensic bullet expert to know of a bullet whizzed by your skull from back to left or front to back etc .

They were there . Cops experts and witnesses say there was more than one shooter .

Watching the videos you can easily ascertain a echo from another gun from a
different location , at a different rate of fire with different sounding bullets .

It is clear. Concise.

Now I could understand if the world had doubt if folks were discussing its caliber or something - but I am confident if I were on the ground and noises are coming from the hotel and suddenly a barrage of gunfire comes from my behind me my ears and body would be able to ascertain that!!

There are times where you hear two guns at the same time echos are echos they sound LIKE original source -- not totally different

its bizarre

and I feel for these people as well .

It identical emotional scaring as a rape victim being told it really did not happen

Deeply stalls PTSD work they need validation of there experiences . How can that feel real to these folks when they are hearing all over the media that there was only one - when they are standing there facing the stage and lets say a bullet comes into there back -- much can be determined here by impact wounds - the way bodies fell in conjuction with folks that were standing half an inch away from them when the bullet hit, how their friends body fell , what those around them heard saw and felt

For the first time in years for some reason this time the nation wants it to be a white mass solo lone wolf.

Usually media scrambles to turn stuff into a massive terrorist attack- this time we have 1000;s of hours of video and officials want it to be a lone wolf

One has to IMO take a step back and ask oneself why do authorities need this to be a lone wolf - when clearly that is not what happened.

The logical answer is there is something that powerful entities do not want the public to know

Pulse ran in MSM for months . Manchester ran for weeks .

This was fading in 72 hours .

There are reasons for everything

There are reasons why nothing makes sense - cause it ain't the truth.

Truth tends to fit in an order.

moo
Did you read SillyBilly's link on firearm sounds? It's very interesting. There can be two noises - one from the gun report, and one from the actual bullet cracking in the air at a different time.

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  • #559
Was it said somewhere he had OCD, paranoia and anxiety?
I thought results weren't back yet. Are these profiles of SP from online chatter and people who knew him?
Other then a prescription? I know people who are prescribed meds and take as needed or dont even bother.

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No. If you go back and read my post just before this one you will understand why I brought it up as a possibility. There are many reasons to do this, and anxiety and OCD are just a couple of them.

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  • #560
Nice find.......time to release the footage!! I doubt we’ll see it, but it sure would be great.

-Would be great! Any footage would be!
 
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