NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #9

[CoolJ]

Do I have a deadline? Being a scientist, I have a day job.

I don't know where the people were located who reported smelling gunpowder? Perhaps you could tell me. Also, you said 1,000 feet before, now you are saying 1,000s of feet. Please clarify. Thanks, CoolJ.

Well I believe the venue was 1200feet away and people running towards Tropicana and hooters were smelling gunpowder. So let’s go with the conservative estimate and say 1200 feet

 

[kittythehare]

Kitty I haven’t been able to keep up with your questions to us directly, but I want to so bare with me until I can. In regards to the one on how we feel about the report-I agree the report is detailed and scripted well as far as documentation. Then I come back to the point of Accuracy. I’m stuck...how can it be viewed as a job well done when there are missing pieces...key pieces...and conflicting accounts? I’m not asking you to agree with me, I am writing out loud to myself.

It is a job well done because it documents hundreds if not thousands of hours of good detective work..
Recall, Lombardo did not write that report.
There are anomalies, but its a pretty impressive body of work, much more than anyone expected.

 

[KaaBoom]

It is. Look at the hideous carpet. Its like they took all the worst furniture and art from the hotel and just stuck it in this room.

It's Las Vegas. That's the way everything looks in Vegas. LOL. People pay big money to stay in rooms like that.

 

[CoolJ]

It is a job well done because it documents hundreds if not thousands of hours of good detective work..
Recall, Lombardo did not write that report.
There are anomalies, but its a pretty impressive body of work, much more than anyone expected.

Impressive does not equal accurate nor does it equal candid.

I smell deception, and I will smell deception until I see proof that :
1) Paddock was the deceased 2) Paddock was a shooter 3) There were no other shooters at the concert venue 4) There were no other active shooters on the strip that night 5) There was nobody else involved in the planning of this massacre

 

[CoolJ]

One thing of interest I found in the report is that there were not over 200 rounds fired through the door and down the hall way. There were only approximately 35. There were 200 strikes found. I assume the bullets were hitting objects and either shattering or sending debris that in turn hit walls and appeared initially to be individual bullet strikes. That was pretty sloppy for LE to initially say 200 rounds fired down the hall. It should have been readily apparent from examining the door that 200 shots weren't fired through it.

I think one thing we can say is that the investigation and communication by the LVSO has been pretty sloppy at times.

Its just another change in their narrative. It may be sloppiness. It may also be deception. The narrative has to match the evidence. The specially assigned investigative team has to make it all FIT

 

[vlpate]

Guest Privacy. Funny enough, hotel hallways in Vegas are the only place in the country where you can be absolutely sure there will be no surveillance.

Sounds like a pretty good place to run criminal operations out of.

They have cameras outside of all elevators and stairwells, some inside elevators and stairwells...people would be noticed coming and going, who were not guests, carrying their arms purchases, regardless of how disguised, in and out of elevators and stairs. A married man and a prostitute/lover, OTOH, can enter the elevator at different times and be seen by cameras, but not entering or exiting the hotel room.

 

[CARIIS]

They have cameras outside of all elevators and stairwells, some inside elevators and stairwells...people would be noticed coming and going, who were not guests, carrying their arms purchases, regardless of how disguised, in and out of elevators and stairs. A married man and a prostitute/lover, OTOH, can enter the elevator at different times and be seen by cameras, but not entering or exiting the hotel room.

All of this is true

what is also true is Lomabardo and MB said for months there are no cameras in hallways

that is another lie

there are reasons for all this lying

 

[CARIIS]

I don't know if it makes sense. I went and found hourly wind data from NOAA NCDC. https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/ Being a scientist, I have to start with available data and build from there.

The wind was 7mph direction 230deg at 2056. (It's interesting how the wind shifts completely over the next couple of hours).

I drew an arrow on the map to show the direction. Hope that helps.

ETA: Forgot this link - helps with wind data grok.

https://www.windfinder.com/wind/windspeed.htm

I know this stuff from hurricanes -- winds are totally different at the 32 floor

the only way people on the ground could smell gunfire at ground level is snipers at ground level

they were running -- no way people smell gunfire at ground level from the 32 floor at 3500 feet away in real time

play around with skyscrapers and hurricanes

 

[dizzychick]

I know this stuff from hurricanes -- winds are totally different at the 32 floor

the only way people on the ground could smell gunfire at ground level is snipers at ground level

they were running -- no way people smell gunfire at ground level from the 32 floor at 3500 feet away in real time

play around with skyscrapers and hurricanes

did people really smell the gunpowder or did they just think they did? I missed the gunpowder comments

 

[CARIIS]

One thing of interest I found in the report is that there were not over 200 rounds fired through the door and down the hall way. There were only approximately 35. There were 200 strikes found. I assume the bullets were hitting objects and either shattering or sending debris that in turn hit walls and appeared initially to be individual bullet strikes. That was pretty sloppy for LE to initially say 200 rounds fired down the hall. It should have been readily apparent from examining the door that 200 shots weren't fired through it.

I think one thing we can say is that the investigation and communication by the LVSO has been pretty sloppy at times.

in a dash of a mood !!

I took so much heat for being so not ok with his endless 200 shots after the supposed leak pic of the door

 

[dizzychick]

Guest Privacy. Funny enough, hotel hallways in Vegas are the only place in the country where you can be absolutely sure there will be no surveillance.

Sounds like a pretty good place to run criminal operations out of.

if I was younger and had more guts than I have now, I would challenge this by checking into a room and going out in the hall at 3 a.m. and cause a commotion of some sort like get my hubby to strangle me then wrangle me back into the room w/o any witnesses, then see how long it takes for cops to show up LOL

 

[CARIIS]

Guest Privacy. Funny enough, hotel hallways in Vegas are the only place in the country where you can be absolutely sure there will be no surveillance.

Sounds like a pretty good place to run criminal operations out of.

ha

72 hours ago that lie became another lie

29000 hours of video where they outline every thing he did in his hallway where there according to them there are no cameras but yet in this breakthrough report they outline minute by minute of what he did in the hallway that has no cameras

what a joke

 

[CARIIS]

There was no gunshot wound to the chest. The blood on his shirt most likely came from his mouth when, upon shooting himself, his head thrust forward...see Zapruder film.

i dont think you have s perfect blood spool from an area ABOVe some droplets -- there is zero blood spots between his the blood on his chest and his mouth


blood drips gravity a body falling down there would be some stains go like a clock 600 o clock is the blood stain on his chest

from 12 * downwards there would have to be droplets if that makes sense

a body falling downwards with blood falling down while the body is falling down cant miss the space

it gravity and liquid stuff visualize it

 

[CoolJ]

They have cameras outside of all elevators and stairwells, some inside elevators and stairwells...people would be noticed coming and going, who were not guests, carrying their arms purchases, regardless of how disguised, in and out of elevators and stairs. A married man and a prostitute/lover, OTOH, can enter the elevator at different times and be seen by cameras, but not entering or exiting the hotel room.

The point remains. You go to a floor. Nobody knows what room you go in.

Also, we have service elevators used by “special guests”. I wonder if there are cameras in the service elevators....

 

[x_files]

ha

72 hours ago that lie became another lie

29000 hours of video where they outline every thing he did in his hallway where there according to them there are no cameras but yet in this breakthrough report they outline minute by minute of what he did in the hallway that has no cameras

what a joke

Nothing about this case seems to add up.

 

[CARIIS]

Thanks for this video CARIIS. Love your unique take on things even though you make my head spin. Not a bad thing...

Very interesting. What is the WS 'concensus' on the black ops? I'm curious in BOTH conspiracy and non-conspiracy perspectives. I haven't read all the posts in this thread let alone all previous threads, but I'm sure you guys have sleuthed this. TIA.

and see

i dont know black ops mean

i am too logical to go to the number 13 ontop of venus !!

I dont like watching that stupid stuff on YT

It was not a red flag at that point but I was so blown away by him 90 minutes in claiming no one else him alone and no ties to anything

that night that coufused me

usually they go hysterical and keep half a state under lockdown for 8 hours !!!

This was so big -- i kept thinking how does that guy know that other people could get killed

there was no like lockdown formal

i intitutivlily did not like him from the get go

he struck me as sleezy as controlling

were true crime people

we engaged the subject shortly to be told the body in there was dead

it just got weirder and weirder

it still is this is not some mass murderer who thought he needed 24 machine gun to shoot people

with 3000 bullets preloaded in magazines all he would need ALONE is two machines and the magazines

 

[dizzychick]

are we surprised?:

http://www.foxla.com/news/records-las-vegas-gunman-was-germophobe-possibly-bipolar





makes me think of the weird Howard Hughes, you know his IQ was off the charts, wonder what Paddock's was?

 

[CARIIS]

I do as well, but interview sl stated clearly that only a single person is being investigated in relation to the crime..that kinda eliminates the MB, does it not?

me dear

they are all involved this is huge money some hotel is not providing armed security lying moving etc etc for some rent a cop

Jesus is total bs he is one of the people involved so is engineer

mb has been paid to allow this operation to go on

LVMPd has been paid to allow this to go one

paddock gang are serious mobsters

open up the magnitude of this

billions of dollars govt corruption arms terrorists money laundering politics greed sleeper cells lots of bad things

 

[CoolJ]

and see

i dont know black ops mean

i am too logical to go to the number 13 ontop of venus !!

I dont like watching that stupid stuff on YT

It was not a red flag at that point but I was so blown away by him 90 minutes in claiming no one else him alone and no ties to anything

that night that coufused me

usually they go hysterical and keep half a state under lockdown for 8 hours !!!

This was so big -- i kept thinking how does that guy know that other people could get killed

there was no like lockdown formal

i intitutivlily did not like him from the get go

he struck me as sleezy as controlling

were true crime people

we engaged the subject shortly to be told the body in there was dead

it just got weirder and weirder

it still is this is not some mass murderer who thought he needed 24 machine gun to shoot people

with 3000 bullets preloaded in magazines all he would need ALONE is two machines and the magazines

Yup. The 20+ machine guns is what really gives it all away. It is not necessary to his alleged mission and in fact it could be so risky as to be detrimental to his well planned(according to Lombardo) mission.

It is a crock. And my common sense and intuition will not allow me to get past it. Pardon me for being keenly aware of these things.

 

[vlpate]

i dont think you have s perfect blood spool from an area ABOVe some droplets -- there is zero blood spots between his the blood on his chest and his mouth


blood drips gravity a body falling down there would be some stains go like a clock 600 o clock is the blood stain on his chest

from 12 * downwards there would have to be droplets if that makes sense

a body falling downwards with blood falling down while the body is falling down cant miss the space

it gravity and liquid stuff visualize it

I am so sorry, I don'the understand what you are trying to say.