NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #9

[LayzeeDayzee]

Were they "concerned" about it, or just noting it? I'm not seeing how deleting it after is very incriminating. I would too if my boyfriend had just committed 58 murders. There were pictures of her family on there and it linked to their profiles as well. I would be worried about my families safety.

It's also possible she had already started to get messages or strange friend requests. People thought her ex husband was the shooter for a while before the name was released. People thought that she was a likely accomplice to whoever the shooter was.

So a lot of people were looking at her facebook long before we found out her boyfriend was the shooter. I know I looked at her facebook before the name was released. I just don't remember the exact timeline anymore.

I'm sure they have more than just the facebook deletion. That by itself just isn't that strange to me. Most people associated with high profile suspects delete their facebooks. It's kind of a logical thing to do. Retreat, hide and try to downplay your relationship with the monster.

But if you read the comments further back here, she deleted her FB profile 1 hour BEFORE Paddock's name had even been released by LE as the shooter.

 

[2Hope4]

This situation will NEVER make sense because we have no facts to go. All these months later, so many unanswered questions. And notice how few people are back on the thread. Public's attention span is so short that many have moved on to other news, and let this just slip away. People in my life I've mentioned this released documents, ONE of them said "yeah I saw that on the news", the rest have no interest in going over the documents, or discussing it. Yet when it happened and the month following, that's all they wanted to talk about!

Vegas, sin city. Money rules. Always has, always will. No matter what the cost to keep the public happy and spending money. The corruption runs deep and it doesn't appear anything is going to change that. Couldn't pay me to go there!

 

[2Hope4]

“We began last year committed to reducing violent crimes and we were able to deliver that promise,” Sheriff Joe Lombardo said in a statement. “We still have more ground to cover, but we’re headed in the right direction.”

According to the statement, Metro’s murder statistics did not include the 58 concertgoers who were fatally shot Oct. 1 on the Las Vegas Strip.
When asked why the massacre numbers were excluded, department spokesman Larry Hadfield said, “Federally, you don’t have to report because it’s a mass casualty event.”
The spokesman denied a request for an interview Thursday with Lombardo.


https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/las-vegas-police-say-violent-crime-decreased-in-2017/

Gotta throw that news bit out to calm the fears. Keep up that touristy image!

 

[kittythehare]

“We began last year committed to reducing violent crimes and we were able to deliver that promise,” Sheriff Joe Lombardo said in a statement. “We still have more ground to cover, but we’re headed in the right direction.”

According to the statement, Metro’s murder statistics did not include the 58 concertgoers who were fatally shot Oct. 1 on the Las Vegas Strip.
When asked why the massacre numbers were excluded, department spokesman Larry Hadfield said, “Federally, you don’t have to report because it’s a mass casualty event.”
The spokesman denied a request for an interview Thursday with Lombardo.


https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/las-vegas-police-say-violent-crime-decreased-in-2017/

Gotta throw that news bit out to calm the fears. Keep up that touristy image!

From your link
Clark County Commission Chairman Steve Sisolak said he believed it was fair for Metro to omit the Oct. 1 killings.
“The 1 October shooting was a one-time event that will hopefully never happen again,” Sisolak said. “It is not reflective of the crime statistics that affect the (Las Vegas) Valley on a monthly or annual basis … and for that reason I don’t think it should be included in that statistic.”

what the hell are they doing?
Cos I follow LV media since the massacre and I am aghast at the numbers of violent deaths that occur on a very regular basis..

this!!!
Clark County Commissioner Larry Brown said he did not believe Metro was trying to hide anything. The county uses Metro’s crime statistics to determine where additional services are needed, and the mass shooting would skew the numbers.

Can't have those numbers skewed, despite the fact that these numbers determine the next years budgetary allocation for crime prevention.. it is very much in their interests to include these murders and injuries.

 

[kittythehare]

more on the unsubstantiated claims made on Hannity last night
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...perry-terrorism-las-vegas-20180119-story.html

"We've seen no evidence of a terrorist attack," she said. "I would ask, with all due respect Congressman, unless you have specific evidence to back that up, it seems a bit irresponsible to make that allegation. If you do have any evidence of that, I'm asking you right now."
"I'm just telling you, I have received what I feel to be . . . credible evidence of a possible terrorist nexus," Perry answered. "We're going to have to wait until that situation develops."

 

[CARIIS]

I thank you guys for letting me know about the release of documentation!

Am way !behind

5 pages in this hits like a ton of brick from the link in this post

Unfortunately, the information was only requested for a six month
time?'ame

so we are in the middle of the biggest event and they ask for 6 months worth of data

becomes more interesting in that to do it different requires what .05 secs to change the search criteria

 

[kittythehare]

I thank you guys for letting me know about the release of documentation!

Am way !behind

5 pages in this hits like a ton of brick from the link in this post

Unfortunately, the information was only requested for a six month
time?'ame

so we are in the middle of the biggest event and they ask for 6 months worth of data

becomes more interesting in that to do it different requires what .05 secs to change the search criteria

Good point.
Welcome home.

 

[CARIIS]

MARILOU It is unclear what the purpose of the wire transfer
was

she is alive ask her .................

 

[CARIIS]

we have a wide variety of
optics and ammunition to try.

do mass shooters try out things that kill

or do purchasers - like a test drive of a car ?

a customer ...............

 

[CARIIS]

for a thrill try out bump?re ar?s with a 100
round magazine.

are suicidal folks looking for a "thrill"

they type worse than me and that is saying something

in s huge city with supposedly a sophisticated police dept someone would feel compelled to point out

The ?Internet? is a worldwide network of computer systems


The World Wide Web is a
functionality of the Internet which allows users of the Internet to share information.

have any of us every seen anything like this by a metro police dept


b. ?Internet Service Providers? are companies that provide access to the
Internet............


records maintained by ISPs pertaining to their
subscribers


In my training, my experience and this investigation

someone learning on the job sounds like a trainee to me !!!


I have learned that
MicroSo? (the Service Provider) is a company that provides free web-based Internet
email access to the general public

Microsoft is not an ISP --

really this is supposedly a document submitted to a court of law by a knowledgeable investigator ?


Unless the sender of the email speci?cally deletes the Email from the

provider?s server, the email can remain on the system inde?nitely.
we all know forensically that is just not so

email typically includes the content of the message,
source and destination addresses, the date and time at which the email was sent, and
the size and length of the email

this is an affidavit??

dealing with forensic evaluation of a mass shooter computer?


a computer on a desk can be used to store a wide variety of..


based on my
training, my eXperience and this investigation, I know that subscribers of these online
services can conceal their activities by altering

second grader??


providers o?en have records of the Internet Protocol address address

we are to believe that a judge would accept my typing on a formal legal document ??


ddress books, contact or buddy lists, - buddy lists??


S. Burke, Special Agent
Federal Bureau of Investigation

are we being serious -- this dude sworn this is his??

continuing! This is the email they are telling a court of law is it Microsoft emailaccount marilouroses?live.com

you cant have a question mark like that I dont think !


photographic form
(including, but not limited to, pictures or videos

at loss of words


The investigating agents will then...

in a real affidavit I think a judge does not need a outline of step by step for supposedly seasoned investigators

well first 24 pages IMO aint a real thing

 

[kittythehare]

for a thrill try out bump?re ar?s with a 100
round magazine.

are suicidal folks looking for a "thrill"

may have been a reference to the 100lbs of explosives found in his car, after his demise..
may be a red herring too, or a mind game..
I was searching for codes in the few lines.. I didn't find them but am not the best on the left brain exercises..

 

[DeDee]

it's Tucker.. so pinch of salt
[FONT=&quot] https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/954166890330558465[/FONT]

Tucker asked the guest, Republican Congressman Scott Perry from PA, what are the questions of concern that the Congressman is asking. Scott Perry (R) declared he smells a rat. Perry took it a step further to declare more troubling than that for he has information that it was ISIS terrorists who infiltrated by crossing the Southern border to commit an act of terror specifically in Las Vegas. Hence, the revelations were not from TC but from an US Congressman.

Whomever is to blame for the mass murders, needs to be made public. As for me, I intend to begin posting articles from the Baltimore Post Examiner, in particular, Doug Poppa's reports and youtube news videos via my FB acct. Ditto for my Twitter acct.

I so much appreciate this in depth discussion regarding the Vegas Mass Murders on WS yet I feel compelled to also spread the data via my SM accts. If it opens the consciousness of one person then, that's one person more than we had interested before.

Also, it was stated that Vegas is not required to report the mass deaths in their crime stats. Did Orlando do the same? What about Boston? And Columbine?

Now, I am wondering when the lawsuits begin sworn depositions, if those docs will be made public. Are those, who were in attendance at the concert, satisfied with the obfuscation from Vegas? Where is their outrage? Have they been silenced? Have some concert witnesses really died after the shootings due to their publicly made claims of shooters on the ground and from the drone? Was there a drone shooting at innocent citizens?

Most of the current WS posters have been engaged in discussions since the tragic event. Although, I stood along the fringe, you guys know much more about activities and actions than I do. However, don't feel you need to fill in the dots for me as it is not my purpose to burden others. I hope to read all of Doug's reports in the coming weeks. Thanks are extended to each one of you as we trespass through the apparent evil corruption found in sin city.

 

[DeDee]

for a thrill try out bump?re ar?s with a 100
round magazine.

are suicidal folks looking for a "thrill"

Were these mass murders what can be referred to as 'going out in a blaze of glory'? SPs name will always be synonymous with the Vegas mass murders for many of us.

CARIIS, I am glad you are here. You have a special way of thinking outside of the box and voicing interpretations not yet considered.

 

[CARIIS]

Thanks Tricia for re-opening this conversation.
I saw preliminary warrant reports, full reports to be released
[FONT=&amp] https://twitter.com/CraigNews3LV/status/951579943179186176

[/FONT] https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/01/12/las-vegas-shooting-fbi/1030771001/

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime...gas-shooting-continues-to-puzzle-authorities/[FONT=&amp]

And here's the warrants. Happy reading.
[/FONT] https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4349486-Warrants-1.html[FONT=&amp]

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From Journal link above

The documents note that as early as Oct. 7, the investigation had revealed that Paddock “may have been treated for yet unidentified medical conditions.” It remains unclear what those conditions could have included.

they found meds -- that was reported early --why would possibilities not be reviewed??

Email records reviewed by investigators confirm that Paddock transferred an undisclosed amount of money to Danley in September

?????

[FONT=freight-book, serif]Three months before killing 58 people and wounding more than 500 in Las Vegas last October, the gunman behind the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history sent emails discussing buying bump stocks[/FONT]

[FONT=freight-book, serif]from link [/FONT]

[FONT=freight-book, serif]this sounds much more like an upsell -- we will give you chrome wheels (!) [/FONT]

[FONT=freight-book, serif]if I am a lone mass shooter why am I discussing my murder weapon options with anyone [/FONT]

[FONT=freight-book, serif]that make no sense at all [/FONT]

[FONT=freight-book, serif]however an arms buyer might be intrigued by an upgrade that can make a murder weapon more lethal moo

if you and your significant other, had , speculating here, been making money by selling arms to bad people, you might help him get the merchandise ready for sale by loading magazines ----------maybe.

On the other hand , based on her fingerprint angle I would think a spouse who is not an arms dealer asks for help with loading 4000 bullets -- I would think a partner might be somewhat curious.

On the other hand if this had been a source of income for some time I would think nothing would seem out of line moo

Thus far we have seen no mention of delusional thinking patterns. SO.........I would think the hypothetical FBI conclusion that he was talking to himself via email somewhat of a stretch!

I would be more inclined , if I was an arms dealer or a informant I might set up two emails myself and give another party the login information

They claim both emails were originated by him probably true

imo means nothing -- other people can use the account as a way to communicate clandestinely. It sure seems pretty stupid for someone to think that others would believe that a person is having a conversation with him/herself via email.

That imo is SNL stuff jeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzz





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[kittythehare]

for a thrill try out bump?re ar?s with a 100
round magazine.

are suicidal folks looking for a "thrill"

they type worse than me and that is saying something

in s huge city with supposedly a sophisticated police dept someone would feel compelled to point out

The ?Internet? is a worldwide network of computer systems


The World Wide Web is a
functionality of the Internet which allows users of the Internet to share information.

have any of us every seen anything like this by a metro police dept


b. ?Internet Service Providers? are companies that provide access to the
Internet............


records maintained by ISPs pertaining to their
subscribers


In my training, my experience and this investigation

someone learning on the job sounds like a trainee to me !!!


I have learned that
MicroSo? (the Service Provider) is a company that provides free web-based Internet
email access to the general public

Microsoft is not an ISP --

really this is supposedly a document submitted to a court of law by a knowledgeable investigator ?


Unless the sender of the email speci?cally deletes the Email from the

provider?s server, the email can remain on the system inde?nitely.
we all know forensically that is just not so

email typically includes the content of the message,
source and destination addresses, the date and time at which the email was sent, and
the size and length of the email

this is an affidavit??

dealing with forensic evaluation of a mass shooter computer?


a computer on a desk can be used to store a wide variety of..


based on my
training, my eXperience and this investigation, I know that subscribers of these online
services can conceal their activities by altering

second grader??


providers o?en have records of the Internet Protocol address address

we are to believe that a judge would accept my typing on a formal legal document ??


ddress books, contact or buddy lists, - buddy lists??


S. Burke, Special Agent
Federal Bureau of Investigation

are we being serious -- this dude sworn this is his??

continuing! This is the email they are telling a court of law is it Microsoft emailaccount marilouroses?live.com

you cant have a question mark like that I dont think !


photographic form
(including, but not limited to, pictures or videos

at loss of words


The investigating agents will then...

in a real affidavit I think a judge does not need a outline of step by step for supposedly seasoned investigators

They use the same or very similar blurb on all warrants seeking electronic records.

 

[CARIIS]

So...........................

The stuff released was signed Oct 7. In that documentation before anything had been authorized to evaluate by a court of law the document states, in more than one location :

that he apparently had meticulously planned for months, for his sole attack, by himself, and went to great lengths to hide evidence.

How do you state that in the initiating documentation requesting authorization to start investigating??

How have they determined that CONCLUSION while your asking legal permission to start an investigation.

How so they know what steps he took to hide when they had no legal authority to be evaluating anything? They have the order backwards. If they already know all this (psychic energy!!) why are the wasting everyone time since they seem to already know what is on all the stuff they are asking to start to investigate?

Its backwards, illogical, and imo most importantly impossible!

That is all so bogus..................................

 

[rohnalak]

Las Vegas gunmanStephenn Paddock's ashes were given to his brother. His brother wanted to save that ashes in the safe deposit box, Why?

 

[kittythehare]

Las Vegas gunmanStephenn Paddock's ashes were given to his brother. His brother wanted to save that ashes in the safe deposit box, Why?

If you scroll down there are 2 links with that story posted in past few hours.. One is Review Journal.

 

[watergirl62]

So...........................

The stuff released was signed Oct 7. In that documentation before anything had been authorized to evaluate by a court of law the document states, in more than one location :

that he apparently had meticulously planned for months, for his sole attack, by himself, and went to great lengths to hide evidence.

How do you state that in the initiating documentation requesting authorization to start investigating??

How have they determined that CONCLUSION while your asking legal permission to start an investigation.

How so they know what steps he took to hide when they had no legal authority to be evaluating anything? They have the order backwards. If they already know all this (psychic energy!!) why are the wasting everyone time since they seem to already know what is on all the stuff they are asking to start to investigate?

Its backwards, illogical, and imo most importantly impossible!

That is all so bogus..................................

Cooper Harris case: I seem to remember that rumors about JRH spoken between LEOs within earshot of the officer who wrote the search warrants/ built the probable cause argument were incorporated into the documents. He did not do well during testimony.

Not unheard of, CARIIS but yeah, the building blocks of the narrative created for the judges sig on the SW live on.

 

[CARIIS]

The FBI is saying he was buying and selling assault style rifles. Are you disputing that?

Hey you !

Speculation of course!

But I up you one.

We will never know but I think the reality here is this was indeed buying and selling BUT he was a an informant for a three letter agency of ours ( which one no idea!)

It explains all of LE bizarre stuff , it explains setting up cameras - suicidal people tend not set up a bunch of different cameras -- courts of law need "evidence however.

I do not think this was a one time deal. I think this operation had been ongoing in the hotel for some time.

Janet Air role fits in nicely here.

I think they were trying to infiltrate terrorists buying illegal bad boys.

The shooting was IMO a bunch of terrorists who found out he was a narc -- shot him -- and figured heck where here in a room of machine guns lets kill some Americans.

All the high roller "whale" stuff was his cover as established by the agency he was working for .

I think he was doing illegal stuff quite a while back got caught and turned infomrant to save his tushie.

Think about it -- that is exactly what his father did to avoid incarnation.

If one is open to above -- it explains much

our creepy speechless FBI dude who does not speak

it explains armed guards guarding Jesus house ( when the people providing the armed guards knew all along he was in one of their properties.

They were guarding his family who were in his house ( afraid of revenge killing) most felons don't care for narcs.

Terrorists like bombs - he had 200 pounds of bomb stuff available. The only thing 200 pounds of bombs can be for is "for sale"!

There is no evidence of Time McVay operation in planning stages.

He left half of his showroom in his car. If the " customer" liked the goods and upped the order we aim to please our customers!!

for a mass shooter to schelp all that sfuff there and then only bring up some of it for his sole attack makes no sense at all.

The second witness that was on the floor and kept secret for two weeks from the public looks sounds and acts like a three letter agency employee.

Refresher -- check him out. Wildly groomed, articulate, obviously educated . His attire is white collar professional. Why was he kept secret for two weeks?

Why was he there? A maintenance man cant handle a open door or a closed door or a alarm by himself in a 5 star resort?

That requires two staff members?

This guy had to be kept hidden for two weeks just to make sure everyone was safe.

The wife was thrown in a wheelchair and whisked off into oblivion. Never to be seen again .. Same thing concerns over retaliation.

Explains the vacation to Mexico -- hard drive had to be taken out of country and any other data.

Explains why he rented a car to go to Mexico when he always in the past has used his own vehicle for vacations.

What was his mystery trip to Phoenix? FLy one way drive another? Operation of some sort.

Why did the guest Tricia had on a couple of days later all of a sudden go off on this long tirade of Janet Air?? Out of the blue??

Ask Tricia - she sounded surprised that night also.

There was a reason why the expert bought in Janet Air out of the blue on an interview about the Los Vegas shooting.

Lets not forgot this sheriff is elected.

Why was the corner office put on lockdown for weeks afterwards?

I suppose we could call this a CT -- all it is is a person going up to the coronary office . The staff member who opened the door was clearly mortified, and afraid to speak.

There were cops guarding the court house -- they are in the video -- they talk to one another.

It is just an eyewitness recording documenting the office has for some reason been placed on lockdown. Never heard of before.

This was 18 days later guys ............still on lockdown??

Medical examiners office don't get locked down after aviation disasters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9w3Q74X3Gg

Like the poster or not -- all he does is record trying to enter a public building.