NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #9

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Tucker asked the guest, Republican Congressman Scott Perry from PA, what are the questions of concern that the Congressman is asking. Scott Perry (R) declared he smells a rat. Perry took it a step further to declare more troubling than that for he has information that it was ISIS terrorists who infiltrated by crossing the Southern border to commit an act of terror specifically in Las Vegas. Hence, the revelations were not from TC but from an US Congressman.

Whomever is to blame for the mass murders, needs to be made public. As for me, I intend to begin posting articles from the Baltimore Post Examiner, in particular, Doug Poppa's reports and youtube news videos via my FB acct. Ditto for my Twitter acct.

I so much appreciate this in depth discussion regarding the Vegas Mass Murders on WS yet I feel compelled to also spread the data via my SM accts. If it opens the consciousness of one person then, that's one person more than we had interested before.

Also, it was stated that Vegas is not required to report the mass deaths in their crime stats. Did Orlando do the same? What about Boston? And Columbine?

Now, I am wondering when the lawsuits begin sworn depositions, if those docs will be made public. Are those, who were in attendance at the concert, satisfied with the obfuscation from Vegas? Where is their outrage? Have they been silenced? Have some concert witnesses really died after the shootings due to their publicly made claims of shooters on the ground and from the drone? Was there a drone shooting at innocent citizens?

Most of the current WS posters have been engaged in discussions since the tragic event. Although, I stood along the fringe, you guys know much more about activities and actions than I do. However, don't feel you need to fill in the dots for me as it is not my purpose to burden others. I hope to read all of Doug's reports in the coming weeks. Thanks are extended to each one of you as we trespass through the apparent evil corruption found in sin city.

Well........................................finally.........

To be fair Tucker (hate) has been the only one doing anything on this

have you guys seen him when he got surveillance video from another location where there are helicopters hovering above ??

Caution there is a deceased body in the footage so I will let you guys find it!!

There is also a followup to that same video surveillance camera the next day that can be only described as WTH!!

Bizarre goings on!! Just weird stuff my friends.........

Funny at one point it looked like she was setting up a barbershop in the parking lot ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 
  • #242
Were these mass murders what can be referred to as 'going out in a blaze of glory'? SPs name will always be synonymous with the Vegas mass murders for many of us.

CARIIS, I am glad you are here. You have a special way of thinking outside of the box and voicing interpretations not yet considered.

I am glad you all are here

Obviously this really really bugs me

at least if they are gonna cover stuff up dont insult us with flat out stupid stuff.

its just a horrid cover up and they are getting away with it

The core real deal here that is truly scary is what happened to the media?
 
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may have been a reference to the 100lbs of explosives found in his car, after his demise..
may be a red herring too, or a mind game..
I was searching for codes in the few lines.. I didn't find them but am not the best on the left brain exercises..

it sounded as if the thrill was referring to the bump things!

Car salesman talk about thrills -- suicide mass shooters imo -- aint part of there lingo!!
 
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But if you read the comments further back here, she deleted her FB profile 1 hour BEFORE Paddock's name had even been released by LE as the shooter.

I understand that. I looked at her facebook before Paddock's name was released.
However, they released HER name first. The thought (online, not law enforcement) at the time was that it was her ex husband who was the shooter. We knew HER name before we knew HIS name, since her players card was at the scene and she was not.

So I am guessing that she had received some messages before Paddock's name was released, since her name was out there first. I can only imagine how terrifying that would be to have your name connected to such a horrific crime. I would have been concerned about my safety and my family's safety. Which it appears she was based on her statement requesting privacy.

If she had deleted her facebook BEFORE the shooting that might be suspicious. However I see nothing strange about deleting her facebook after she's been associated with the murder of 58 people. I'd delete mine for a lot less than that.
 
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it sounded as if the thrill was referring to the bump things!

Car salesman talk about thrills -- suicide mass shooters imo -- aint part of there lingo!!

Two things stand out.
The first thing I noticed, being pedantic while confounded, was that the language was not correct - grammar etc.. yet there was no prior information that he was not well educated.. so I started thinking it was about something else..
Sending e-mails to one's own a/c or drafts has been explained by Cool-J..

So it is a code of some description and the only hope of interpreting it is if we can find someone who is well versed in and has a good working knowledge about gambling and weapons.. it's possible there is a DUMMIES for weapons Dealers online... but there may be an easier way to find out whether it belongs in one or either of those categories..
None of the well known terrorist groups communicate in this fashion.
 
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Two things stand out.
The first thing I noticed, being pedantic while confounded, was that the language was not correct - grammar etc.. yet there was no prior information that he was not well educated.. so I started thinking it was about something else..
Sending e-mails to one's own a/c or drafts has been explained by Cool-J..

So it is a code of some description and the only hope of interpreting it is if we can find someone who is well versed in and has a good working knowledge about gambling and weapons.. it's possible there is a DUMMIES for weapons Dealers online... but there may be an easier way to find out whether it belongs in one or either of those categories..
None of the well known terrorist groups communicate in this fashion.

Where are you getting the info to make a statement such as "none of the well known terrorist groups communicate in this fashion"?

Here is an article that describes the email "draft" way of covert communicating:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...l-used-to-communicate/?utm_term=.a331c86939a6

"Petraeus and Broadwell apparently used a trick, known to terrorists and teen-agers alike, to conceal their email traffic, one of the law enforcement officials said."

"The trick has achieved notoriety as a tactic of terrorists who are rightly wary of espionage."
 
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Where are you getting the info to make a statement such as "none of the well known terrorist groups communicate in this fashion"?

Here is an article that describes the email "draft" way of covert communicating:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...l-used-to-communicate/?utm_term=.a331c86939a6

"Petraeus and Broadwell apparently used a trick, known to terrorists and teen-agers alike, to conceal their email traffic, one of the law enforcement officials said."

"The trick has achieved notoriety as a tactic of terrorists who are rightly wary of espionage."
Well I didn't make it up.
I study terrorism for the past 20 years.
 
  • #249
Well I didn't make it up.
I study terrorism for the past 20 years.

Again, i am just stating facts. Are you saying terrorists don't use this method to communicate? I've been studying it for 20 minutes and it is quite clear they do and have been for a long time. It appears this trick originated with terrorist groups.

So again, where are you sourcing your info from? It would be interesting to see what you are basing your opinion on.
 
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Again, i am just stating facts. Are you saying terrorists don't use this method to communicate? I've been studying it for 20 minutes and it is quite clear they do and have been for a long time. It appears this trick originated with terrorist groups.

So again, where are you sourcing your info from? It would be interesting to see what you are basing your opinion on.
I am basing my words on the expertise of the world's foremost terrorism analysis.
Now you can search for this by googling encryption and the main terrorist groups, I am referring specifically to Isis and al Quaeda.
I'm not quite sure what you are challenging here. Did you misinterpret my words or did I word a post that you felt snubbed by in some manner?
Let me know, will you?
 
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I am basing my words on the expertise of the world's foremost terrorism analysis.
Now you can search for this by googling encryption and the main terrorist groups, I am referring specifically to Isis and al Quaeda.
I'm not quite sure what you are challenging here. Did you misinterpret my words or did I word a post that you felt snubbed by in some manner?
Let me know, will you?

Did you say terrorists do not communicate in such a way?

I then provided proof they do.

I am challenging you because what you said (if i understood you correctly) does not line up with the facts.

I like your open mindedness on most issues but find it curious you do not want to go down the terrorism rabbit hole.
 
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Did you say terrorists do not communicate in such a way?

I then provided proof they do.

I am challenging you because what you said (if i understood you correctly) does not line up with the facts.

I like your open mindedness on most issues but find it curious you do not want to go down the terrorism rabbit hole.
The article you posted in from 2012.
The massacre happened in october 2017.
Things have moved on - a lot.
For several years they have communicated via encrypted apps.
This is common knowledge.

Again I refer to the named terrorist groups.

There are also white supremacy terrorists.. they are often more likely to be communicating in the manner in which you described, via the draft method..
Then there are the anti government terrorists, very many fringe and mainstream terrorist factions.. So I am discussing what I know as specifically as I can as a contribution to the conversation from my own hard won education and experience.
 
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FYI - the "email trick" made popular by terrorist groups such as Al-Qaeda, and likely used by Paddock is known as a "virtual dead drop". I think we should use that term here for consistency and to avoid confusion.
 
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Hey you !

Speculation of course!

But I up you one.

We will never know but I think the reality here is this was indeed buying and selling BUT he was a an informant for a three letter agency of ours ( which one no idea!)

It explains all of LE bizarre stuff , it explains setting up cameras - suicidal people tend not set up a bunch of different cameras -- courts of law need "evidence however.

I do not think this was a one time deal. I think this operation had been ongoing in the hotel for some time.

Janet Air role fits in nicely here.

I think they were trying to infiltrate terrorists buying illegal bad boys.

The shooting was IMO a bunch of terrorists who found out he was a narc -- shot him -- and figured heck where here in a room of machine guns lets kill some Americans.

All the high roller "whale" stuff was his cover as established by the agency he was working for .

I think he was doing illegal stuff quite a while back got caught and turned infomrant to save his tushie.

Think about it -- that is exactly what his father did to avoid incarnation.

If one is open to above -- it explains much

our creepy speechless FBI dude who does not speak

it explains armed guards guarding Jesus house ( when the people providing the armed guards knew all along he was in one of their properties.

They were guarding his family who were in his house ( afraid of revenge killing) most felons don't care for narcs.

Terrorists like bombs - he had 200 pounds of bomb stuff available. The only thing 200 pounds of bombs can be for is "for sale"!

There is no evidence of Time McVay operation in planning stages.

He left half of his showroom in his car. If the " customer" liked the goods and upped the order we aim to please our customers!!

for a mass shooter to schelp all that sfuff there and then only bring up some of it for his sole attack makes no sense at all.

The second witness that was on the floor and kept secret for two weeks from the public looks sounds and acts like a three letter agency employee.

Refresher -- check him out. Wildly groomed, articulate, obviously educated . His attire is white collar professional. Why was he kept secret for two weeks?

Why was he there? A maintenance man cant handle a open door or a closed door or a alarm by himself in a 5 star resort?

That requires two staff members?

This guy had to be kept hidden for two weeks just to make sure everyone was safe.

The wife was thrown in a wheelchair and whisked off into oblivion. Never to be seen again .. Same thing concerns over retaliation.

Explains the vacation to Mexico -- hard drive had to be taken out of country and any other data.

Explains why he rented a car to go to Mexico when he always in the past has used his own vehicle for vacations.

What was his mystery trip to Phoenix? FLy one way drive another? Operation of some sort.

Why did the guest Tricia had on a couple of days later all of a sudden go off on this long tirade of Janet Air?? Out of the blue??

Ask Tricia - she sounded surprised that night also.

There was a reason why the expert bought in Janet Air out of the blue on an interview about the Los Vegas shooting.

Lets not forgot this sheriff is elected.

Why was the corner office put on lockdown for weeks afterwards?

I suppose we could call this a CT -- all it is is a person going up to the coronary office . The staff member who opened the door was clearly mortified, and afraid to speak.

There were cops guarding the court house -- they are in the video -- they talk to one another.

It is just an eyewitness recording documenting the office has for some reason been placed on lockdown. Never heard of before.

This was 18 days later guys ............still on lockdown??

Medical examiners office don't get locked down after aviation disasters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9w3Q74X3Gg

Like the poster or not -- all he does is record trying to enter a public building.

I am totally with you CARIIS. 100%
 
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Lombardo is contradicting himself again. He is saying there is another suspect. But in his reasoning for taking homicide off the investigation and putting F.I.T in charge was because the suspect was already dead and it was a "static" situation.

He is a bad liar.
 
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I am absolutely gobsmacked after listening to that.. somany thoughts flying now that I don't feel able to put them into words at all.. Must get report and listen to that a few more times before I can settle my thoughts..
Incredible!
 
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