NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #9

[watergirl62]

Attn all personnel attn all personnel

Pls outline in detail the reasons why , more than once , at 1155 roger that 1155 you can hear machine gun fire on the actual police dispatch.

Your answer must provide explanations (ghosts and reincarnation are not acceptable) as to how dead people are firing machine guns several hours after the sole shooter heart has ceased pumping blood.

In your review pls make mention of the dispatcher instantly confirming that she also is hearing machine gun fire from dead people.

Thank you for your cooperation

PLs go here

https://tenone2017.com/root/notes-for-long-scanner/

then go to 4510 and began this assignment immediately !!

The timestamp issue is confusing to say the least. I will give the original Broadcastify a listen first and work from there. It's a data purist thing, I can't help it.

It reads like total chaos with a side of anarchy. Like all the concealed-carrys and vigilantes came out of the woodwork and started running amok.

The taxi cab driver's temperament and initial normalcy bias speaks volumes about how hard it is to wrap your head around the horrific reality that some f***** is shooting at you and everyone around you.

Such a tragedy.

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[watergirl62]

https://www.scribd.com/document/369030587/Paddock-Affidavits#download

Just found this finally. Thanks for posting, kittythehare.

I really appreciate your attention to detail, analytical skills, communication skills... you bring so much groundedness and calm to this discussion. Thanks much! [emoji170]

 

[CoolJ]

Poppa talks about the adjoining room breach and lock mystery

http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/po...hen-paddocks-locked-adjoining-room/2018/01/26

 

[neesaki]

BBM
Clark County Coroner, John Fudenberg

Compare the 1st leaked photo to those in the 81 page FIT report. Is that really SP in both? :thinking:

Is there a photo of SP in the report ? All I see are those of the room, etc. TIA

 

[WestieMom]

Here is the Tucker business surveillance CCTV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oojIv5bamjI&t=2s

The wind is from a helicopter which hoovers in place over the scene for the 12 minutes

Helicopter hovering in place for over 12 minutes ........interesting


It is from a business owner . He reports no authorities have ever asked businesses for CCTV . So they apparently are not running around trying to obtain video

Found it !!!

Here is totally bizarre CCTV from same location the following day. It is a bunch of big black govt sedans pulling in and out for hours.

She starts giving someone a disguise in a parking lot??

I thought heck they do asphalt nowadays maybe free makeovers are the latest !! In some random parking lot?

Why do you need so many govt agents to do a makeover in the middle of the day!

Maybe a vain FBI dude ha!!

Time for a do over ha !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOnmxAkH1OE

Don't know what govt agency dresses like that?



There are some security folks like they are guarding whatever these agents are doing (body language)

Why do you meet in a parking lot to give someone a makeover?


One agent bought his kids along!!

If anyone can come up with a reason for a bunch of govt agencies in black sedans come to a parking lot and comes and goes for about 6 hours that would be cool .

The entire area remained closed off by this point in time -- only cops and govt agents can access the scene.

If anyone knows how to zoom in see if we can get a license plate , but most of the time they back in


talk bizarre really weird stuff



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oojIv5bamjI&t=2s

Or if you can zoom in and see what evideance they taking away out of the back of the car

and see if you can figure out how good the disguise was

Thank you for searching for that 2nd video again. That’s the weirdest ***** I’ve seen, regarding this case so far.


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[kdg411]

Is there a photo of SP in the report ? All I see are those of the room, etc. TIA

No, couldn`t find any other photos except for that original one that McMahill & Lombardo confirmed was SP. It was that close up headshot. Do you have that one?

 

[kdg411]

The timestamp issue is confusing to say the least. I will give the original Broadcastify a listen first and work from there. It's a data purist thing, I can't help it.

It reads like total chaos with a side of anarchy. Like all the concealed-carrys and vigilantes came out of the woodwork and started running amok.

The taxi cab driver's temperament and initial normalcy bias speaks volumes about how hard it is to wrap your head around the horrific reality that some f***** is shooting at you and everyone around you.

Such a tragedy.

The original broadcastify clip is missing a lot of data and when an inquiry was made their response was the specific site had an outage. FWIW

To add additional `food for thought`... why did the venue lights get turned on when the shooting started? :thinking:

 

[dizzychick]

I do not want to be gross. There was a video on the field as well. It was the same experiance as you described.

All of them had there eyes open looked like they were star gazing while at the same time could tell it meant that life stopped instantly.

I stopped it and stared also it was unreal.

In movies etc we have images of dead as eye closed.

The same thing happened with one Malaysian air crashed.

I found incredible video , it was the same thing. People in seats eyes open , some with arms in a certain position, legs etc etc -- all eyes open frozen in time -- in very weird positions -

I had a heart attack 3 years ago, I was at Walmart, I had my hubby drive me over to an urgent care center, I told the doc I thought it was panic, he said yeah, yep as I was telling him my hearing was going away and the room was getting blurry, all of a sudden my hubby said I " checked out" he said my eyes went black the pupils just got huge and I have brown eyes, the lighting in that room must of been bright. The doc freaked out and told my hubby to keep talking to me. I saw him but could'nt answer him. So my eyes did exactly what you guys saw in that video ( I saw it too), but im still here lol so its not a 100 % observation however I was close to seeing the pearly gates

 

[watergirl62]

In the same vein

Here is the taxi drivers incredible whole experiance. If you have not watched it you ought to -- she picks up survivors and
their dialog is interesting throughout the ride

Check out her rear view mirror at 1:44 --incredible. Pls note car rear mirrors do not see the 32nd floor of anywhere!


any notions?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au8x5YBf1gQ

I think her rearview at 1.44 is showing the gunfire from the 32nd floor reflecting off the side of the Luxor. Attached a view forward and back and a map with a dot where she was generally located. My take.

 

[Gooddeeds]

FROM DOUG POPPA:

“LVMPD spokesman Larry Hadfield told the Baltimore Post-Examiner, referring to the 81-page preliminary investigative report that was released last Friday, “Take it for what it’s worth.”

HOW DO YOU TELL VICTIMS TO TAKE IT FOR WHAT ITS WORTH??? AND HE IS THE SPOKESMAN FOR LVMPD.....


“It was a loose end that should have been explained” (the door mystery).

LIKE SO MUCH OTHER THAT STILL NEEDS EXPLAINING.



“As a former criminal investigator, I would never have signed off on the preliminary report without explaining the mystery of room 32-134. Investigators are not mystery writers, there is always an answer and on this, they blew it”.

YES, THEY HAVE BLOWN IT...AND WHY??? COVERING UP

 

[kittythehare]

Is there a photo of SP in the report ? All I see are those of the room, etc. TIA

Yes, you can see his body, but its not a close up shot.. looks similar to some of the alleged leaked photos but quite impossible to do any kind of analysis on it from the image they submitted..

 

[kittythehare]

FROM DOUG POPPA:

“LVMPD spokesman Larry Hadfield told the Baltimore Post-Examiner, referring to the 81-page preliminary investigative report that was released last Friday, “Take it for what it’s worth.”

HOW DO YOU TELL VICTIMS TO TAKE IT FOR WHAT ITS WORTH??? AND HE IS THE SPOKESMAN FOR LVMPD.....


“It was a loose end that should have been explained” (the door mystery).

LIKE SO MUCH OTHER THAT STILL NEEDS EXPLAINING.



“As a former criminal investigator, I would never have signed off on the preliminary report without explaining the mystery of room 32-134. Investigators are not mystery writers, there is always an answer and on this, they blew it”.

YES, THEY HAVE BLOWN IT...AND WHY??? COVERING UP

take it for what its worth suggests the report needs careful analysis.. #we did it in a hurry cos Sheriff had made such a balls of things and he needed a strong pR action to ensure he gets the job'
Is that it?
I think , again, we should put heads together and lookat it together..
this is an actual document they have released.
All else is rumor which is impossible to substantiate..
If we find holes in this.. we can prove a flawed investigation, ergo a cover-up.
I'm pretty concerned now, having read Doug Poppas report on his query.. take it for what it's worth= a careless rushed job

 

[neesaki]

Here is the Tucker business surveillance CCTV

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oojIv5bamjI&t=2s

The wind is from a helicopter which hoovers in place over the scene for the 12 minutes

Helicopter hovering in place for over 12 minutes ........interesting


It is from a business owner . He reports no authorities have ever asked businesses for CCTV . So they apparently are not running around trying to obtain video

Found it !!!

Here is totally bizarre CCTV from same location the following day. It is a bunch of big black govt sedans pulling in and out for hours.

She starts giving someone a disguise in a parking lot??

I thought heck they do asphalt nowadays maybe free makeovers are the latest !! In some random parking lot?

Why do you need so many govt agents to do a makeover in the middle of the day!

Maybe a vain FBI dude ha!!

Time for a do over ha !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOnmxAkH1OE

Don't know what govt agency dresses like that?



There are some security folks like they are guarding whatever these agents are doing (body language)

Why do you meet in a parking lot to give someone a makeover?


One agent bought his kids along!!

If anyone can come up with a reason for a bunch of govt agencies in black sedans come to a parking lot and comes and goes for about 6 hours that would be cool .

The entire area remained closed off by this point in time -- only cops and govt agents can access the scene.

If anyone knows how to zoom in see if we can get a license plate , but most of the time they back in


talk bizarre really weird stuff



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oojIv5bamjI&t=2s

Or if you can zoom in and see what evideance they taking away out of the back of the car

and see if you can figure out how good the disguise was

That second video does seem strange, bu I’m on my iPad at the moment and will finish it on my desk top so I can see it better.

 

[neesaki]

No, couldn`t find any other photos except for that original one that McMahill & Lombardo confirmed was SP. It was that close up headshot. Do you have that one?

Sorry, I just misunderstood your post. if you’re referring to the one of him in the bar I’ve seen that one. Thank you!

 

[Gooddeeds]

Yes, you can see his body, but its not a close up shot.. looks similar to some of the alleged leaked photos but quite impossible to do any kind of analysis on it from the image they submitted..

Neesaki, iirc photos numbered 6,7, and 8 you can see him on the floor. None are close up but you can still see him.

 

[Gooddeeds]

take it for what its worth suggests the report needs careful analysis.. #we did it in a hurry cos Sheriff had made such a balls of things and he needed a strong pR action to ensure he gets the job'
Is that it?
I think , again, we should put heads together and lookat it together..
this is an actual document they have released.
All else is rumor which is impossible to substantiate..
If we find holes in this.. we can prove a flawed investigation, ergo a cover-up.
I'm pretty concerned now, having read Doug Poppas report on his query.. take it for what it's worth= a careless rushed job

I agree, but man is it ever hard to wrap my head around this being a historic fatal catastrophe and we are hearing these callous statements as though it was bar room brawl. Such a lack of respect.

Joe is after another term, he wanted to make sure that we knew he had something in the works for 2 years (encryption) in the course of the investigation conversation. Who cares-that’s a different conversation for those that want that info. He is using the platform. IMO

The good side is that it is in the least being questioned and reported by non CT individuals.

 

[watergirl62]

Yes, you can see his body, but its not a close up shot.. looks similar to some of the alleged leaked photos but quite impossible to do any kind of analysis on it from the image they submitted..

The 'pinned-back' or flat ears in the leaked photo and I think it's his DL photo are the most distinctive match feature IMO. His right ear lobe is a bit curled up in the leaked photo. I don't see similar curl in DL photo but the right ear appears not as flat as the left.

 

[CoolJ]

The 'pinned-back' or flat ears in the leaked photo and I think it's his DL photo are the most distinctive match feature IMO. His right ear lobe is a bit curled up in the leaked photo. I don't see similar curl in DL photo but the right ear appears not as flat as the left.

The ears do look different. But the leaked images are not clear enough to be conclusive.

 

[watergirl62]

The ears do look different. But the leaked images are not clear enough to be conclusive.

The one I was looking at was very clear, but not as clean as an ME's UID photo with all the blood. Too bad there is no good angle on the nose. There are not many photos for comparison, but the ears look the same to me.

The body on the floor looked at least 6 feet tall. Do we know his height?

 

[CoolJ]

The one I was looking at was very clear, but not as clean as an ME's UID photo with all the blood. Too bad there is no good angle on the nose. There are not many photos for comparison, but the ears look the same to me.

The body on the floor looked at least 6 feet tall. Do we know his height?

IMO his DL photo he has attached earlobes. In the leaked photo of the body it looks like “free” or detached earlobes. But i would need to see a full picture or better angle of the ear to be conclusive.