GUILTY NV - Deborah Flores-Narvaez, 31, Las Vegas, 12 Dec 2010 - #1

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Thanks Dreamweaver!! When asked, I would say you deliver!!! If there is a witness who seems to know when the car appeared, and when the license plates disappeared, that is important info, IMHO. There have to be cameras in that location. Video please???
 
I also meant to say Hey Scandi!!!! :wave:

Hi Reannan, It's great to see you too ;} I think it was a nosey neighbor {thank goodness for that, eh?} who saw the car appear on Mon and by Wed she saw someone removing the plates. Probably so it wouldn't look like a red flag to LE do you think?

I have this feeling LE knows much more than we realize in the case. Have a description of who removed the plates, obviously someone connected to the perp if not the perp, etc. I wonder if it has anything with them speeding up his arraignment on the domestic abuse charge as that LE officer on NG intimated?
 
From the news articles linked above... the neighbor noticed the plates were GONE on Wednesday... she didn't actually see them BEING removed.

http://www.ktnv.com/story/13707167/...es-her-own-search-for-answers?redirected=true

BBM~It was either on JVM or NG, but I tend toward NG that I heard that she was involved in a three way relationship.... just more ??? :banghead:

Her sister said that in addition to knowing that Debbie was pregnant in the fall (but not when she disappeared) that she had also known there was a "third party" involved in the situation.

This was while they were discussing the domestic abuse charges, where Debbie had supposedly gone to the new girlfriend's house and the ex/boyfriend had beaten her up there... (in the fall, while she was pregnant according to the police report.)

I believe that is what she meant. That there was another woman involved in the situation. I don't think she intended to give the impression that it was an open relationship. It did not sound that way to me in THIS particular situation. Of course that is a possibility at some point, but in this case I think it was the "other woman" type of situation.

Whether Debbie was confronting the ex/boyfriend for cheating on her with this woman, or for hooking up with her immediately after they broke up, or if she just went over there to discuss the pregnancy and things got out of hand. I don't know. But I think it was one of those from what her sister said.
 
Hi Reannan, It's great to see you too ;} I think it was a nosey neighbor {thank goodness for that, eh?} who saw the car appear on Mon and by Wed she saw someone removing the plates. Probably so it wouldn't look like a red flag to LE do you think?

I have this feeling LE knows much more than we realize in the case. Have a description of who removed the plates, obviously someone connected to the perp if not the perp, etc. I wonder if it has anything with them speeding up his arraignment on the domestic abuse charge as that LE officer on NG intimated?


Whoops ! To correct this post it was on Wed when the neighbor noticed the plates being removed from the car and then LE showed up on Thursday to seize it. Sorry
 
From the news articles linked above... the neighbor noticed the plates were GONE on Wednesday... she didn't actually see them BEING removed.

http://www.ktnv.com/story/13707167/...es-her-own-search-for-answers?redirected=true



Her sister said that in addition to knowing that Debbie was pregnant in the fall (but not when she disappeared) that she had also known there was a "third party" involved in the situation.

This was while they were discussing the domestic abuse charges, where Debbie had supposedly gone to the new girlfriend's house and the ex/boyfriend had beaten her up there... (in the fall, while she was pregnant according to the police report.)

I believe that is what she meant. That there was another woman involved in the situation. I don't think she intended to give the impression that it was an open relationship. It did not sound that way to me in THIS particular situation. Of course that is a possibility at some point, but in this case I think it was the "other woman" type of situation.

Whether Debbie was confronting the ex/boyfriend for cheating on her with this woman, or for hooking up with her immediately after they broke up, or if she just went over there to discuss the pregnancy and things got out of hand. I don't know. But I think it was one of those from what her sister said.

Hmmmm In the KTNV link from above it says "Watching every day from her back porch, Howey says she noticed the Maryland plates disappear from the Maroon sedan on Wednesday. By Thursday, detectives moved onto the property to seize the car".

Saying she 'noticed them disappear' gives the feeling she saw them being removed in my mind. Oh well, we will find out soon enough. She was attentive tho, seemingly upset because it was so odd and LE took so long to get out there.
 
This is definitely some form of a domestic situation. I still find it suss re the text saying not to contact the best friend. Do we know who the best friend is yet??? I am thinking that there has been a falling out with her and yes am also wondering if she was the roomate and this is why she was supposedly sleeping in her car and staying at the exboyfriends between rehearsals.....maybe not wanting to go home??????

However I am wondering if this girl was really having the rough edge of the pineapple ie.....fight with best friend/roommate, maybe an abortion, ex boyfriend had been cheating hence the break up and the "third party" being mentioned, and then being a witness within the next week to an assault charge against the ex boyfriend.............lots of confrontation by the sounds of it....

I still think it has something to do the ex and the domestic violence charge.....as she was going there and obviously some form of reconciliation happened, maybe he was trying to make her change what she was going to say and it got heated.
 
From the news articles linked above... the neighbor noticed the plates were GONE on Wednesday... she didn't actually see them BEING removed.

http://www.ktnv.com/story/13707167/...es-her-own-search-for-answers?redirected=true



Her sister said that in addition to knowing that Debbie was pregnant in the fall (but not when she disappeared) that she had also known there was a "third party" involved in the situation.

This was while they were discussing the domestic abuse charges, where Debbie had supposedly gone to the new girlfriend's house and the ex/boyfriend had beaten her up there... (in the fall, while she was pregnant according to the police report.)

I believe that is what she meant. That there was another woman involved in the situation. I don't think she intended to give the impression that it was an open relationship. It did not sound that way to me in THIS particular situation. Of course that is a possibility at some point, but in this case I think it was the "other woman" type of situation.

Whether Debbie was confronting the ex/boyfriend for cheating on her with this woman, or for hooking up with her immediately after they broke up, or if she just went over there to discuss the pregnancy and things got out of hand. I don't know. But I think it was one of those from what her sister said.
BBM~I didn't take it as an open relationship either, but wondered about a threesome.
As I said, third party = more questions :crazy:
 
This is definitely some form of a domestic situation. I still find it suss re the text saying not to contact the best friend. Do we know who the best friend is yet??? I am thinking that there has been a falling out with her and yes am also wondering if she was the roommate and this is why she was supposedly sleeping in her car and staying at the ex boyfriends between rehearsals.....maybe not wanting to go home??????

However I am wondering if this girl was really having the rough edge of the pineapple ie.....fight with best friend/roommate, maybe an abortion, ex boyfriend had been cheating hence the break up and the "third party" being mentioned, and then being a witness within the next week to an assault charge against the ex boyfriend.............lots of confrontation by the sounds of it....

I still think it has something to do the ex and the domestic violence charge.....as she was going there and obviously some form of reconciliation happened, maybe he was trying to make her change what she was going to say and it got heated.

Didn't her sister say Debbie called her after she left her ex-boyfriends house?

I am not sure who the suspect will be. Her ex? Her roommate? An obsessed fan? Jealous girlfriend of Blu's?

I too question why she was adamant about not contacting her best friend in case of an emergency but to contact Blu instead. This text was sent on December 1, so something tells me even if she testified in court she really wasnt going to try to nail him but would probably try to make excuses for him about why it happened. Which isn't uncommon. Often women who are battered forgive their batterer and don't want to testify in court.

Most jurisdictions don't even require the victim to testify anymore since a lot of them tell the DA they don't want to testify against them.

IMO
 
BBM~I didn't take it as an open relationship either, but wondered about a threesome.
As I said, third party = more questions :crazy:

Sounds like he dumped Debbie for another girlfriend.

Wonder who the present girlfriend is and how she felt if she knew Debbie was coming to see Blu even after the breakup.

IMO
 
Hmmmm In the KTNV link from above it says "Watching every day from her back porch, Howey says she noticed the Maryland plates disappear from the Maroon sedan on Wednesday. By Thursday, detectives moved onto the property to seize the car".

Saying she 'noticed them disappear' gives the feeling she saw them being removed in my mind. Oh well, we will find out soon enough. She was attentive tho, seemingly upset because it was so odd and LE took so long to get out there.

I imagine they removed the license plate during the night when the neighbor was sleeping and by Wednesday she noticed it was missing.

OT/ Merry Christmas sweet Scandi!

IMO
 
I saw an interview with the sister on Fox & Friends this morning. At least the family is keeping this in the news.
 
Flores-Narvaez's mother, Elise, told the Atlanta Journal Constitution about a strange December 1 text message her daughter sent her prior to her disappearance: "In case there is ever an emergency with me, contact Blu Griffith in Vegas," the text message read. "My ex-boyfriend. Not my best friend."

“I asked Debbie what it means, and she says ‘never mind, mommy. Just keep it for your records,’” Elise Narvaez told the Atlanta Journal Constitution yesterday.


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ormer-washington-redskins-cheerleader-missing

eta: Debbie is the top trending thing on yahoo right now!
 
According to the report, Griffith allegedly stole Flores-Narvaez's iPhone during a dispute. She chased after him and the two started arguing. Griffith then threw her phone. When Flores-Narvaez went to retrieve it, he ran toward her, pushed her down, pulled her hair and kicked her. Police say Debbie had bruises on both legs and found a chunk of her hair.

Griffith was arrested for battery, domestic violence and coercion.


http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20026269-504083.html

another snip~

Las Vegas police are set to hold a news conference regarding this case Tuesday morning.
 
Thanks for the links Nurse.....ex bf seems to be quite a hothead. This has gone from bad to worse, I'm afraid.
 
http://www.ktnv.com/story/13717584/arrest-report-details-domestic-violence-against-las-vegas-dancer

and another article with an INTERESTING snip (((timing???)))


Griffith is scheduled to be in court Tuesday morning for an arraignment on the domestic violence charges.



http://www.8newsnow.com/story/13717206/missing-dancer-boyfriend-had-history-of-violence

This was mentioned last night on NG. And also interesting is a presser due at 10AM, soon after the hearing! :eek:

Thank you for the link, Nurse! :blowkiss:
 
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