NV - Jessica Valenzuela, 32, dead, 36 injured, car plows into crowd, Las Vegas, 20 Dec 2015 *arrest*

[CARIIS]

Time for a chuckle...................

good lord

The accidents that are being advertised are, of course, completely separate from the gun school and don’t have anything to do with firearms. The "accident" sign is touting the services of a group of lawyers who handle the legal fallout of motor vehicle crashes............

convient all in one location

 

[CARIIS]

I was thinking Meth, which is huge here in Oregon... And everywhere else, I'd imagine. IDK.

meth and crack were not big when I was practicing....coke was big pot alchool extasy

Interesting:

1) The Rush— During the rush, the abuser’s heartbeat races and metabolism,1 blood pressure and pulse soar. Unlike the rush associated with crack cocaine, which lasts for approximately two to five minutes, the methamphetamine rush can continue for up to thirty minutes.



2) The High—The rush is followed by a high, sometimes called “the shoulder.” During the high, the abuser often feels aggressively smarter and becomes argumentative, often interrupting other people and finishing their sentences. The delusional effects can result in a user becoming intensely focused on an insignificant item, such as repeatedly cleaning the same window for several hours. The high can last four to sixteen hours.



left out binge for space !


4) Tweaking—A most dangerous when experiencing a phase of the addiction called “tweaking”—a condition reached at the end of a drug binge when methamphetamine no longer provides a rush or a high. Unable to relieve the horrible feelings of emptiness and craving, an abuser loses his sense of identity

http://www.drugfreeworld.org/drugfacts/crystalmeth/the-stages-of-the-meth-experience.html

 

[CARIIS]

I was confused over what this video was showing so I had to look down and see. I have to say, don't read the youtube comments on this one... holy cow... the comments combined with the driver we see in the video... it's like I just caught misanthropy. Hope it's gone by Christmas.

Back to this situation. Even if drugs were involved I'll never understand what could have gone through her head. Millions of people are hooked on drugs and millions more take drugs at parties, but rarely do people go on a killing spree when high. I've had a ton of problems in my life, as we all have, and never once did I want to hurt innocent strangers because of them. I'm not special. Most everyone wouldn't do this. I can't understand people who do this. I may never understand.

I never read the comments there just hate ----and it fits in with what we are seeing in the world imo

 

[CARIIS]

Reports are that her mother was not taking care of her, and she was already homeless when she was in high school. I think it’s a safe bet that she couldn’t get any family help.

nor did her mom have the capability to help she suffers with alcoholism, with an 8th grade education a problematic mix

 

[flourish]

I think I associate Meth with the level of depersonalising I'm guessing one would need to do this.
And that's likely a personal thing with me, not a fact. Also, apparently my phone's decided I speak king's English replacing my z's with s's.

Not that it helps...there's no explanation that could help this...

 

[CARIIS]

i am learning not as uncommon as intitally thought

[video=youtube;kWgIgdgRDtI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWgIgdgRDtI[/video]

 

[CARIIS]

Video from witness who recorded right afterwards:

[video=youtube;zDTV1TbbEf8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDTV1TbbEf8[/video]

peculiar that no other bystander/witness cell phone video has not emerged , no?

 

[CARIIS]

said the car was initially driving slowly on the sidewalk, and someone tried to get it to stop. Jackson said the car sped up when it reached a group of people.

"It accelerated, and it just plowed through the group of people, and we were in shock," said Jackson. "Then it kind of hopped off the curb, and there was a lady that was stuck under the car, and when it hopped back on the curb, she was laying between the curb and the street, and she wasn't moving at all."

11-year-old boy -- are listed as in serious condition.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/l...lanet-hollywood-killing-one-injuring-37-video

 

[flourish]

Ugh, I'd rather see a pic of a victim (like, healthy,not a photo of the carnage) or just Las Vegas scenery than her face on my tapatalk feed thing. Blech.

 

[Trident]

good evening my bravo and Blue !!Boy the agency that used her in their ads must be super shocked. I worked with this population (disenfracheised, single, young moms, with kids) and no I am condoning in any fashion but the obstickles are immense for these young moms immense...................

Yeah, I know. I was a single mom with 4 kids back at a time when there were NO programs or freebies of any sort for me. Even so, I didn't mow down a crowd of people to make them "feel my pain". Cry me a river. I hope they lock 'er up for a long time and give her more free treatment.

 

[Trident]

This is classic psycosocial background for this population. I am not making sweeping generalizations here. I am generally referring to the disenfranchised populations. There were very different but consistent dynamics in Caucasian, Hispanic, and Africian American poor.

There is horrible access to health-care, mom is supposed to work, so cant continue school. Cars don't run, no money to repair, cant get to work, gets fired, power cut off, social services gets involved, mom cant make court dates, no car, no money for gas, gets in more trouble with social services, they start custody removal procedures, mom has trouble reading and cant afford a lawyer, so the child is removed, and now in the foster care system (an abomination) . Run out of food, no money, a teacher reports (Ought to) but the point here is it is a very very difficult cycle to break out of . The other kid (older) then starts to deal/shoplift etc to help his mommy, starts getting inot trouble with LE , which mom cant address, no car, no gas to make court stuff. Lot of time dad and mom not married , if the father is alive, in prison, unemployed, no child support . Her relapse into substance abuse is clasic- overwhelmed , hopeless. The cycle goes on and on and-on right here in good ole America!!

I am not coondoning last night in any fashion, but generally speaking; those that have not been there........

CNN on in background very little about this story?

I call BS. I was a white single mom and I had the EXACT same trouble with NO agencies, etc to help me. Don't hand me this different dynamics stuff. Poor is still poor, a broke down car is still broke down, and no money still means you have a hard time feeding your kids, court dates, etc.

Let's cut the "disenfranchised populations" crap and get real. It's the same hard pull for all of us and that is NO excuse to kill and injure innocent people. I'm sick of the pity party for certain people. This women got a lot more freebies than I ever thought of and she had less kids. I hope they lock her up and throw away the key.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Would Canada's national health plan not cover Canadians while they are traveling in the US? Anyway, by US law the hospital has got to provide emergency care. So worst case scenario, the foreign nationals can receive treatment, then return to their countries without paying, and the hospital would have to write it off as a bad debt. Hopefully there is also some type of local Victim Assistance Program that can help them too. Though I wouldn’t expect that to cover much.

If this happened in Egypt. I doubt they would bill tourist victims later. So the US needs to deem this a domestic terrorist act and pay these people hospital bills.

Btw. If she was homeless and sleeping in the car with her 3 year old. Then the cops should have been called to take her in. Jmo.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Yeah, I know. I was a single mom with 4 kids back at a time when there were NO programs or freebies of any sort for me. Even so, I didn't mow down a crowd of people to make them "feel my pain". Cry me a river. I hope they lock 'er up for a long time and give her more free treatment.

You go girl. Good job. People that use to need government assistance use to frown upon it. But now people look at it as entitled employment that only requires seeing a case worker once every 6 months while telling them that you are still in dire need. Even if you have been on the program for 10 years and healthy enough to actually work for a living. Jmo.

 

[Sonya610]

wow those are some pics. The one in front of the Paris hotel is really creepy made me wonder if we are talking about crack cause of the skin issues in the current mugshop.

just speculation...

Those look like acne or pox scars. You can see traces of it on some of her "good" pix all in the same place. I think the mugshot just had bad lightening combined with no makeup.

 

[Bravo]

Would Canada's national health plan not cover Canadians while they are traveling in the US? Anyway, by US law the hospital has got to provide emergency care. So worst case scenario, the foreign nationals can receive treatment, then return to their countries without paying, and the hospital would have to write it off as a bad debt. Hopefully there is also some type of local Victim Assistance Program that can help them too. Though I wouldn’t expect that to cover much.

No our Health Care does not cover for out of province one resides in or out of Country. It is cheap to purchase and cost for a person who has no health issues per say is determined by days away.

 

[Ellie9]

No our Health Care does not cover for out of province one resides in or out of Country. It is cheap to purchase and cost for a person who has no health issues per say is determined by days away.

This is right. Most people in countries with national health care coverage buy special insurance for travelling to the states. Without it, they could be in trouble if anything happens.

As an American living in Canada (and hopefully getting residence any day now come ON visa officers!) I can say that we don't get any coverage here at all. If something bad happens to me, I have my own travel insurance. For minor things that crop up, I have to pay out of pocket.

I know that various problems can crop up in any person, and medical problems could mean serious debt or bankruptcy for all innocent people who just couldn't afford insurance, or couldn't afford good insurance, and got sick or hurt.

I just feel though that after facing the trauma of a mass attack, a person would be doubly burdened if they also had financial problems through no fault of their own. Imagine, every hospital bill they pay, every time they have to say 'no' to a special treat, every time they have to eat ramen instead of something more substantial, they are reminded of their attacker and the attack itself. It's horrible.

 

[Bravo]

Those look like acne or pox scars. You can see traces of it on some of her "good" pix all in the same place. I think the mugshot just had bad lightening combined with no makeup.

The video somebody posted of her story ( program who assisted her) shows the bumps on her forehead. It's a side angle shot at the very end of it. Agree.

 

[Bravo]

Welcome to Canada Ellie9. Hopefully you are processed very soon.

 

[rob]

Lady, we're all freaking hurting and somehow managing to NOT murder people with our vehicles.

What kind of person even thinks this up?

When she sits her azz up in prison for the next 25 years to life, maybe she can figure out if she made the right decision. I hope to God she doesn't try the crazy route. Yeah, she's crazy, but this was intentional. I only want to think of the victims and that includes her child.

 

[rob]

Those pictures don’t look like modeling photos to me. They look like typical amateur social media photos that a lot of young girls post.

TMZ referred to them as modeling photos.