NV - Jessica Valenzuela, 32, dead, 36 injured, car plows into crowd, Las Vegas, 20 Dec 2015 *arrest*

[Kimberlyd125]

I guess we should put temporary holds on all new mothers' drivers licenses since they are sleep deprived and may decide to run over people in the Winn Dixie parking lot.

JMO

 

[bluesneakers]

I guess we should put temporary holds on all new mothers' drivers licenses since they are sleep deprived and may decide to run over people in the Winn Dixie parking lot.

JMO

That's funny.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

That's funny.

Not really. I can remember some horrific weeks when I had a very sick newborn.

It was sleep deprivation No doubt.

But I never once thought of killing anybody. Never once.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

And my childhood sucked. And I've struggle with anxiety and depression.

I'm a hot mess at times.

Murder has never crossed my mind. And it shouldn't.

 

[CARIIS]

That's funny.

Re drivers liscense
We would have to add a few qualifers:

homeless
jobless
young
young child
hopeless
scared
despondent
confused
empty
alone

 

[CARIIS]

Has there been anything released saying she doesn't have a mental illness?

If her family describes her normal, good-hearted, loving, and successful that would make this incident seem out-of-character, and why would someone good-hearted and loving suddenly drive onto a sidewalk filled with people?

Besides that - there's nothing wrong with speculating based on what we do know or have observed (and what her attorney has said), and talking about mental illness and mental health care isn't off-limits, is it?

I feel comfortable with coming to the conclusion that being a mom, homeless,in the 9th grade can result in PTSD!!

The media plays it like she had all the opportunity in the world ---she lived unspervised, with alcoholic uneducated mother - hardly an individual who can sit down and discuss or model adaptive modeling behaviors

She was not handed anything. Despite her horrid beginnings SHE was able to break the cycle of poverty and get up and out. Her accomplisshmnent noone elses.

Programs for disenfranshed are tough - you work the program or they give the slot to someone else he earned her way out . Her GPA went from like a d to a high b- she accomplished that

The fact that sshe is where she "went to" is sad,, the falling down was from a a larger height.

Tragic all the way around IMO

 

[CARIIS]

Discussing the perp is what occurs here. It does not automatically imply that tranlates to forgetting the victims.

Multi-taskiing if you will.

Threads would be very short if the overall conclsuion to the sitution is monster or evil well that does it - reason answered.

Life is gray, rarely black or white not evil or not evil, but a whole receipe with many indgrdients , that is what we do together is try to find the entire receipe.

Rarely is it only sugar or pepper............................

 

[flourish]

And my childhood sucked. And I've struggle with anxiety and depression.

I'm a hot mess at times.

Murder has never crossed my mind. And it shouldn't.

Right. You aren't this woman. Got it.

So what makes someone cross that line? A break in a brain chemical reaction or synapses? Sleep deprivation combined with stress and an affinity for magical thinking as a coping mechanism?

What made this woman in particular "lose it?"

 

[flourish]

Also, I'm the bereaved mother. My son was violently and deliberately injured before he could hold his own bottle, and died never having done so. I prefer people don't presume my feelings about victims.

 

[dotr]

Right. You aren't this woman. Got it.

So what makes someone cross that line? A break in a brain chemical reaction or synapses? Sleep deprivation combined with stress and an affinity for magical thinking as a coping mechanism?

What made this woman in particular "lose it?"

rbbm.
Wonder if suspect was challenged in a very personal way, it is as if she and her child and all the passersby, meant nothing, absolutely nothing.
Had she been forced into a working girl type situation which served to dehumanize the suspect, who in turn, did not see others as human?
imo

 

[SugarQueen]

I have no problem with anyone discussing wth might have caused her to do this. I think we need to do that in every case on here. Reading many of the posts here it does sound like a lot of excuses for what she did. Maybe that's not the intention but that's the way I read it.
For me there is just no way *I* can see that the system failed her. *I* can't find even a tiny bit of sympathy for her if we are looking at young mom, sleep deprived, past temporary homelessness, or lack of job as the reason behind this.

 

[dotr]

Also, I'm the bereaved mother. My son was violently and deliberately injured before he could hold his own bottle, and died never having done so. I prefer people don't presume my feelings about victims.

Very sorry, that loss must be a source of enduring pain, thanks for sharing your perspective.

:heartbeat:

 

[flourish]

Very sorry, that loss must be a source of enduring pain, thanks for sharing your perspective.

[emoji813]beat:

thank you. And that's a typo in my post obviously I'm a bereaved mother, not THE bereaved mother, as it's an unfortunate role I share with too many.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

http://m.reviewjournal.com/opinion/...iversity-wrestlers-dealing-tragic-night-strip


PACIFIC UNIVERSITY WRESTLERS DEALING WITH TRAGIC NIGHT ON STRIP

"You realize how close you came to making your wife a widow and having your son grow up without a father," Walsh said. "You realize someone just lost their life right in front of you and others were still fighting for theirs. When it was happening, you don't have time to analyze it all. You just react.

"I'm 6-foot-5 and a former heavyweight, so I would have probably gone low and been in some real trouble," said Walsh, 38. "The lighter guys can move. She missed six to seven of our guys by inches. It was something that made you pause for an instant and register what was happening. You heard the engine gun and saw the car enter the crowd and assumed it was an accident. But then she accelerated and kept going, and you knew it was no accident. At that point, our instincts just took over. Our trainers and staff and kids just began helping as many people around them as they could."

 

[Kimberlyd125]

COUNTY APPLAUDS FIRST RESPONDERS IN CAR MELEE ON STRIP

http://m.reviewjournal.com/news/las-vegas/county-applauds-first-responders-car-melee-strip

Strip crash first responders honored by county


http://www.ktnv.com/positivelylv/ho...rash-first-responders-to-be-honored-by-county

County honors emergency workers in Strip sidewalk crash

http://m.lasvegassun.com/news/2016/jan/19/county-to-honor-emergency-crews-in-strip-crash/

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Just checked LH's inmate status.
I remembered she was scheduled for court this morning.
Looks like she is due there at 8:00 am.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Strip crash suspect now faces 71 total charges

http://www.ktnv.com/news/crime/strip-crash-suspect-now-faces-71-total-charges

During a hearing Wednesday, prosecutors filed battery and additional attempted murder charges against Lakeisha Holloway. She was originally was facing charges of murder, attempted murder and child endangerment, since her 3-year-old daughter was in the car at the time of the crash.

The crash on Dec. 20 killed 32-year-old Jessica Valenzuela of Arizona and injured dozens more. Prosecutors said three people are still in the hospital a month later and said one man went back to Mexico on a ventilator.

For the 34 surviving victims, Holloway faces 2 charges for each, including attempted murder with a deadly weapon and battery. She was also charged with another count of child abuse and neglect for an 11-year-old who was hit on the Strip.

 

[kimi_SFC]

Thank you for the link Kimberlyd125. The article didn't mention what the potential maximum sentence lh could face with the current 71 charges she is facing.

I may have missed it.

Every victim deserves their justice. :moo:

#RIPJessica
:rose:


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[Kimberlyd125]

Her hearing Wednesday was over in about five minutes. Her next hearing will be at 8 a.m. Feb. 4.

http://www.abc15.com/news/national/...egas-strip-crash-that-left-arizona-woman-dead

I would like to know how much time she's facing as well.

I've skimmed several articles and have not seen any mention of it.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Nevada has the death penalty. I don't see why that wouldn't come into play here.

JMO