NV - Jessica Valenzuela, 32, dead, 36 injured, car plows into crowd, Las Vegas, 20 Dec 2015 *arrest*

  • #481
Lakeisha Holloway, Accused of Las Vegas Sidewalk Attack, Could Face 1,000 Years

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...as-vegas-sidewalk-attack-could-face-1-n500746

Police have previously said that the incident was a premeditated attack, and Clark County District Attorney Steve Wolfson said Wednesday that is she's convicted on all 71 counts, Holloway could be sentenced to more than 1,000 years in prison.

Chief Deputy District Attorney Marc DiGiacomo said the charges would "ensure the protection of our community from the defendant for a very long time."
 
  • #482
Lakeisha Holloway, Accused of Las Vegas Sidewalk Attack, Could Face 1,000 Years

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...as-vegas-sidewalk-attack-could-face-1-n500746

Police have previously said that the incident was a premeditated attack, and Clark County District Attorney Steve Wolfson said Wednesday that is she's convicted on all 71 counts, Holloway could be sentenced to more than 1,000 years in prison.

Chief Deputy District Attorney Marc DiGiacomo said the charges would "ensure the protection of our community from the defendant for a very long time."

What, only a millennium? Why not an eon? If you don't sentence her for a billion years, what sort of a message will it send to other severely disturbed people who will commit their crimes with no consideration of the consequences?
 
  • #483
The "over a thousand years" is not a message.

It's a calculation of what she could get for each of the 71 charges added together. Not a message.

She killed a person and mangled many others. She changed the lives of countless people. Lets not forget that.

Yes. She did that much damage.

What kind of message did she send?


JMO
 
  • #484
I think you're mistaken if you dispute that the additive length of sentences do not send a message.

In some jurisdictions, sentences are added together, so that 10 counts with a duration of X can be served when someone has been incarcerated for X years.

I'm not saying that it's morally right.

That's just how the law works.

In some places.

And I don't need reminding that her actions hurt and killed many.

No, I don't.

I don't think that she sent any sort of a message, though.

At least, no more of a message than any crazy person does when they hurt large numbers of strangers.

And when they are not trying to forward a message.

Be it political or social.

JMO
 
  • #485
It's math.
 
  • #486
It makes it sound absurd. I can't take it seriously when they sentence someone to more than a lifetime.
 
  • #487
It makes it sound absurd. I can't take it seriously when they sentence someone to more than a lifetime.

Since a life sentence = parole in 15 - 25 years. Multiple sentences make sense if you want to make sure that the person will never be released. Even then there is no guarantee that the judge will not sentence the defendant to serve the sentences concurrently, or that some of the sentences will not be overturned on appeal, or that the defendant will not be released early for a verity of reasons. More then one life sentence makes the possibility of release considerably less likely.
 
  • #488
Nevada has the death penalty. I don't see why that wouldn't come into play here.

JMO

Probably to save tax payers over $1 million for an execution that will never take place, unless she voluntarily agrees to it.
 
  • #489
Chief Deputy District Attorney Marc DiGiacomo said the charges would "ensure the protection of our community from the defendant for a very long time."

Attorney Scott Coffee, Holloway's public defender, told NBC station KSNV that she was "doing well" and was not on suicide watch.

Court records showed that Holloway, who remains held without bond in protective custody, is next due in court Feb. 4
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...as-vegas-sidewalk-attack-could-face-1-n500746
 
  • #490
Since a life sentence = parole in 15 - 25 years. Multiple sentences make sense if you want to make sure that the person will never be released. Even then there is no guarantee that the judge will not sentence the defendant to serve the sentences concurrently, or that some of the sentences will not be overturned on appeal, or that the defendant will not be released early for a verity of reasons. More then one life sentence makes the possibility of release considerably less likely.

I didn't say a life sentence, I said a lifetime. More years than a person can live.
 
  • #491
Probably to save tax payers over $1 million for an execution that will never take place, unless she voluntarily agrees to it.

And killing her isn't going to keep people safe from her any more than locking her up for the rest of her life would.

I don't think keeping people safe is his motivation. JMO
 
  • #492
I didn't say a life sentence, I said a lifetime. More years than a person can live.

Same concept. The lower the sentence, the greater the chance that she will eventually be released. Many people have been sentenced to more then a lifetime in prison, and got out. Not many, if any, have been sentenced to 1,000 years and got out.
 
  • #493
It makes it sound absurd. I can't take it seriously when they sentence someone to more than a lifetime.

Yes, the idea of serving consecutive lifetimes always makes me wonder if they'll be keeping the body imprisoned after death.
 
  • #494
Probably to save tax payers over $1 million for an execution that will never take place, unless she voluntarily agrees to it.

I would think that the death penalty would require a higher level of premeditation than seems to have been present in this case. I haven't followed closely, but isn't the woman mentally ill in all likelihood? I don't want to diminish in any way the loss to families of those killed and injured, but, we don't kill people in this country for disordered thinking--regardless how deadly. And the US executes people much more freely than a good many countries.
 
  • #495
Yes, the idea of serving consecutive lifetimes always makes me wonder if they'll be keeping the body imprisoned after death.

There was a prison that once required that inmates with life sentences be buried on the prison grounds. So even if they had family that wanted the inmate to be buried in the family plot, the prison would not release the body to them. I wish I could remember which prison is was. It was a historic prison that no longer has burials, only a few today still have operating cemeteries.
 
  • #496
Yes, the idea of serving consecutive lifetimes always makes me wonder if they'll be keeping the body imprisoned after death.

You never know, that might be a good idea. I hate the walking dead, let her marinate a while.. she be a lot less dangerous.
 
  • #497
I would think that the death penalty would require a higher level of premeditation than seems to have been present in this case. I haven't followed closely, but isn't the woman mentally ill in all likelihood? I don't want to diminish in any way the loss to families of those killed and injured, but, we don't kill people in this country for disordered thinking--regardless how deadly. And the US executes people much more freely than a good many countries.

I haven't seen anything that suggests she's mentally ill except the speculation of others. I have not seen any mention from LE, family, or her attorney to suggest there was a history of mental illness.

Of course her attorney will say she is now to save her hind end.

I of course think her actions were bat chit crazy but that doesn't make them any less criminal. If she knew what she was doing was wrong when she did it, she should be punished. If she is eligible for the DP, I'm fine with it.

And I think she absolutely knew what she was doing was wrong because she asked the valet (or was it a security guard) to call 911. Then told the cops she was hurting so she wanted others to hurt too.

JMO

ETA: the DA said in December that the DP was a consideration.
 
  • #498
IIRC today is the next court date.
 
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  • #500
Hearing today.
 

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