Recovered/Located NV - Ronnie (found deceased) & Beverly Barker (taken for med care), RV trip, Stagecoach, 27 Mar 2022

[otto]

Can you confirm they were actually seen, not just their vehicles? I just can’t find it anywhere! Thank you!

This clarifies what happened when - posted upthread. Looks like last confirmed sighting is 3:48 at Stagecoach Market. After that, it's pings and traffic cameras until the final ping at Nivloc Road at 7:15 PM.

The travel time is correct - leaving Stagecoach at 3:48 PM and arriving 3.5 hours later at Nivloc Road. Problem is that they had no reason to take that route.

 

[otto]

It would behoove Governor Sandoval to get his Washoe County investigators down there to Silver Peak mine and get Highway 265 and environs surveyed very closely.

They need drones in the area - looking for a burned out RV or abandoned vehicle, using infrared cameras.

 

[logical]

Were they planning on staying near “Nellis Air Force Range” instead of Nellis Air Force Base (in Las Vegas) ?

That is near the end the of Silver Peak Rd off Nivloc…. Makes more sense then driving hours more at that time and would potentially explain Nivloc Rd… attached map shows area that is Nellis Air Force Range.

 

[zecats]

Were they planning on staying near “Nellis Air Force Range” instead of Nellis Air Force Base (in Las Vegas) ?

That is near the end the of Silver Peak Rd off Nivloc…. Makes more sense then driving hours more at that time and would potentially explain Nivloc Rd… attached map shows area that is Nellis Air Force Range.

Doubt it. Range is way different than base. Nice find though.
“The Nevada Test and Training Range is one of two military training areas at the Nellis Air Force Base Complex in Nevada and used by the United States Air Force Warfare Center at Nellis Air Force Base.” Wikipedia

ETA unless they maybe confused it themselves.

 

[Satchie]

Look on the Facebook page run by family. They speak of it. And the updated flyer they just put out and that I just posted upthread has confirmed sighting there in Stagecoach.

Yes, police would request video footage: they wouldn't make the mistake of relying on card transactions. This is standard procedure in tracing missing persons, get that visual confirmation it's really them, plus what direction they went when exiting.

(Note: video cameras are everywhere in gas stations, I've no doubt they have video of the RV gassing up).

4 pm is very late to be setting out on a 7 hr drive through a whole lot of nothing.

I personally think they were running late and chose to try to find a stopover while it was daylight.

And hope they got lost/stuck, but are out there.

JMO

 

[ReadySet]

Sometimes people do uncharacteristic things. Or, sometimes circumstances change and necessitate changes in plans. I don't know what happened here, just thinking about different possibilities. A very big rig. Two vehicles. Desolate stretches of highway. Other less traveled roads branching off from 95. Electronics that are not always fool proof. Two older people with possible health issues.

 

[ReadySet]

I agree.

Yes, police would request video footage: they wouldn't make the mistake of relying on card transactions. This is standard procedure in tracing missing persons, get that visual confirmation it's really them, plus what direction they went when exiting.

(Note: video cameras are everywhere in gas stations, I've no doubt they have video of the RV gassing up).

4 pm is very late to be setting out on a 6 hr drive through a whole lot of nothing.

I personally think they were running late and chose to try to find a stopover while it was daylight.

And hope they got lost/stuck, but are out there.

JMO

 

[Herat]

Were they planning on staying near “Nellis Air Force Range” instead of Nellis Air Force Base (in Las Vegas) ?

That is near the end the of Silver Peak Rd off Nivloc…. Makes more sense then driving hours more at that time and would potentially explain Nivloc Rd… attached map shows area that is Nellis Air Force Range.

Oh my - another google search mistake?

 

[logical]

Doubt it. Range is way different than base. Nice find though.
“The Nevada Test and Training Range is one of two military training areas at the Nellis Air Force Base Complex in Nevada and used by the United States Air Force Warfare Center at Nellis Air Force Base.” Wikipedia

ETA unless they maybe confused it themselves.

After taking a look at the town of Silver Peak off Nivloc Rd on google streetview, doesn’t seem like a great place for a final ping.

Does appear to be some warehouse type outbuildings that could potentially hide an RV sized vehicle.

 

[WingsOverTX]

Yes, police would request video footage: they wouldn't make the mistake of relying on card transactions. This is standard procedure in tracing missing persons, get that visual confirmation it's really them, plus what direction they went when exiting.

(Note: video cameras are everywhere in gas stations, I've no doubt they have video of the RV gassing up).

4 pm is very late to be setting out on a 6 hr drive through a whole lot of nothing.

I personally think they were running late and chose to try to find a stopover while it was daylight.

And hope they got lost/stuck, but are out there.

JMO

I think I'm gonna have to go out on a limb here and say no way are they purposefully or mistakenly driving on Nivloc Rd at 7 pm Sunday night. #1 - Have no reason to be there; #2 - Would have chosen a campground for the night along the main route; #3 - We don't know their last communication with another person & what they said. We need that.

JMO

 

[OldCop]

Oh my - another google search mistake?

My thought exactly.

 

[otto]

Sometimes people do uncharacteristic things. Or, sometimes circumstances change and necessitate changes in plans. I don't know what happened here, just thinking about different possibilities. A very big rig. Two vehicles. Desolate stretches of highway. Other less traveled roads branching off from 95. Electronics that are not always fool proof. Two older people with possible health issues.

I think they wouldn't leave the highways. They had a destination, and they didn't want to get hung up on backroads. Would they leave on a 6 hour drive at 3:48 PM? Would they plan to arrive at 9 PM to overnight with friends?

Stagecoach at 3:48 pm, where they got gas, seems to be the last logical thing they did - given usual RV routines (mentioned upthread, parked at 5:30 pm). Did they tell anyone where they planned to stay that night, or did they say they were driving late? Did they plan to blitz 6 hours including 3 hours of dusk/night driving, arrive tired, sleep well, relax and carry on the following day?

Seems more logical to overnight in Stagecoach after getting gas around 4 pm.

Did they leave Stagecoach at 4 PM March 27, plan to arrive 6 hours later at the friends house at 9 pm, or did they plan to leave Stagecoach at 9 AM March 28, arrive in time for 3 PM cocktails?

 

[Kecharaeq2]

I think I'm gonna have to go out on a limb here and say no way are they purposefully or mistakenly driving on Nivloc Rd at 7 pm Sunday night. #1 - Have no reason to be there; #2 - Would have chosen a campground for the night along the main route; #3 - We don't know their last communication with another person & what they said. We need that.

JMO

It could also have been a cell tower issue, where it pinged the next closest instead

 

[Auntie Cipation]

When we read that there were pings, are these matching pings from both their phones, assuming there were two phones with them? Or is just one phone doing the pinging?

 

[logical]

Surprising murder story for such a small town of Silver Peak.

[URL="https://www.websleuths.com/forums/posts/16596830/"]Found Deceased - NV - Charles Kinkel, 39, Silver Peak, 25 July 2013 *Arrests*[/URL]

Seems like these guys may have been released on Parole based on some quick searches.

 

[Planet 9]

If they were seen getting snacks in Stagecoach, someone could have entered and hid in the RV while they were purchasing the snacks.

I agree. I’ll take it a step further. I think since she used a walker, she would not have left the RV. My husband was disabled and those RV stairs are a bear! She would have used the RV potty (near impossible to do while going down the road.). The RV was undoubtedly already filled with their favorite snacks. I think he was filling it up with gas and someone slipped in thru the probably unlocked RV door. That’s my best guess.

 

[Satchie]

Sometimes people do uncharacteristic things. Or, sometimes circumstances change and necessitate changes in plans. I don't know what happened here, just thinking about different possibilities. A very big rig. Two vehicles. Desolate stretches of highway. Other less traveled roads branching off from 95. Electronics that are not always fool proof. Two older people with possible health issues.

I'm personally influenced by the story I followed over 10 years ago, of a couple from Canada who took a wrong turn (relying on GPS) heading to Las Vegas in a campervan, ended up stuck in mud at this same season, mid-March. It was weeks before the van was accidentally found.

This search seems so much more focussed, in comparison.

JMO

 

[otto]

I agree. I’ll take it a step further. I think since she used a walker, she would not have left the RV. My husband was disabled and those RV stairs are a bear! She would have used the RV potty (near impossible to do while going down the road.). The RV was undoubtedly already filled with their favorite snacks. I think he was filling it up with gas and someone slipped in thru the probably unlocked RV door. That’s my best guess.

That's what I'm thinking too. They stopped to get gas at Stagecoach, the RV side door was not locked? There was a conversation where a third person entered the RV? They were vulnerable, and it might have been 24-36 hours before their friends realized something was wrong.

 

[otto]

I'm personally influenced by the story I followed over 10 years ago, of a couple from Canada who took a wrong turn (relying on GPS) heading to Las Vegas in a campervan, ended up stuck in mud at this same season, mid-March. It was weeks before the van was accidentally found.

This search seems so much more focussed, in comparison.

JMO

Reminds me of the McCanns. It wasn't a wrong turn. They met someone at the gas station who wanted the vehicle they were towing. Their burned RV was found. The fire was initially believed to be torching an RV for insurance money, so there was a delay in connecting the dots. The bodies were never found. The vehicle they were towing was connected to a suspect.

 

[GoneGoldfishin']

As I understand from the information from their family:

They intended to do the 7 + hour drive from Stagecoach to near Nellis AFB in Las Vegas on 3/27, staying the night with friends in that area. I assume they did not intend to stop for the night, either at a trailer part or to boondock. She seems to have need a wheelchair and he reportedly had some health issues so these were not people who wanted to be out in the wilds at night.

Just looking at their whole trip, they were apparently taking 4 days to drive to Tucson from Oregon.

This recent media source says they were heading to Fallon on March 26.

Could the 6:40 pm fuel stop in Stagecoach have been on the 26th, just before staying over in Fallon?

Silver Alert issued for missing couple traveling through Nevada northeast of Las Vegas

As noted a couple times above, heading out on a long highway drive in late afternoon would frighten me, what if I had a breakdown?

JMO

Most recent flyer (timeline) posted on FB date 4/4/22. Some times seem to have changed

So after seeing the updated timeline, one thing stuck put to me: The first entry. "12:00 PM Departed MOUNT SHASTA KOA".
Because "Family and friends who are posting updates on social media write that Ronnie and Beverly Barker left Albany, Oregon on March 26 heading for Fallon, Nevada followed by a stop in Las Vegas before continuing on to Tucson on March 29 where they were expected to meet with friends."
Silver Alert issued for missing couple traveling through Nevada northeast of Las Vegas
When did Mt. Shasta get thrown in there? Was that a different plan than what the family/friends knew about?
Why didn't they stop over in Fallon on the 27th, if that was the plan?
They left Mt. Shasta at noon, it would make sense to stop after 5-6 hours in Fallon, but it doesn't make sense that they would be trying to make it to Las Vegas (11+ hours) having left so late in the day. They would be arriving at midnight!
It's 10 hours from Albany to Fallon. I can see why they would would want to stop after ~5 hours and stay in Mt. Shasta instead. But why the extremely late start? Was there a medical issue that first day/night? Trouble with the rig? It just seems like the plan was already off from the beginning, and maybe friends and family really didn't know exactly the route they were on, and some signals got crossed. Fatigue, confusion, miscommunication- and then ending up completely lost.
(Or maybe I am just misunderstanding or missing some information that would clear this up).
Moo.