NV NV - Steven Koecher, 30, Henderson, 13 Dec 2009 - #22

[Ignorant_Bystander]

This video looks to have new interviews I think, and its noted there have been indications found of a drug cartel involvement. Its amazing to hear new information passed onto police

Utah man's disappearance in Nevada remains a mystery 15 years later

It's been 15 years since Steven Koecher vanished without a trace in a Henderson neighborhood, leaving his family in a state of perpetual uncertainty.The 30-ye

news3lv.com

 

[Glovey]

This video looks to have new interviews I think, and its noted there have been indications found of a drug cartel involvement. Its amazing to hear new information passed onto police

Utah man's disappearance in Nevada remains a mystery 15 years later

It's been 15 years since Steven Koecher vanished without a trace in a Henderson neighborhood, leaving his family in a state of perpetual uncertainty.The 30-ye

news3lv.com

It's sad to me that a after 15 years police continue to abandon the Koecher case. This story is nothing more than another sound-bite, of sorts. The question is, why are police not searching the suspicious property on Evening Lights? If you know the evidence as I do, there is enough probable cause to conduct a search. It needs to be eliminated as a crime scene.

 

[ScorpioRising]

It's sad to me that an after 15 years police continue to abandon the Koecher case. This story is nothing more than another sound-bite, of sorts. The question is, why are police not searching the suspicious property on Evening Lights? If you know the evidence as I do, there is enough probable cause to conduct a search. It needs to be eliminated as a crime scene.

I agree. No property on the street has been searched with dogs, correct? They didn’t use dogs at the beginning to trace his steps from the car, correct? Such a missed opportunity if that’s the case, as dogs might have alerted to a specific home. I understand the new homeowner didn’t agree to a search, would they also not agree to just have the casita looked at?

 

[tezi]

This video looks to have new interviews I think, and its noted there have been indications found of a drug cartel involvement. Its amazing to hear new information passed onto police

Utah man's disappearance in Nevada remains a mystery 15 years later

It's been 15 years since Steven Koecher vanished without a trace in a Henderson neighborhood, leaving his family in a state of perpetual uncertainty.The 30-ye

news3lv.com

I have to say involvement with the cartel never crossed my mind. But, Steven was desperate for money, so maybe this was his way out of debt? Maybe his only involvement was as a money courier and nothing more and the cartel decided he was a big risk and killed him?

JMO, IMO, and all other disclaimers.

 

[Ignorant_Bystander]

It's sad to me that a after 15 years police continue to abandon the Koecher case. This story is nothing more than another sound-bite, of sorts. The question is, why are police not searching the suspicious property on Evening Lights? If you know the evidence as I do, there is enough probable cause to conduct a search. It needs to be eliminated as a crime scene.

Glovey, sorry if im misunderstanding, but by mentioning they keep abandoning the case, are you saying the information passed onto police about evidence of a drug cartel involvement (stated in the video) did not happen recently.. as in, its old news? thanks

 

[Skyblueday32]

I know being religious doesnt make you exempt from criminal behavior, I'm just troubled because it seemed he had a solid family support system and church values. Why turn to criminal activities if you could go home, why so desperate? Was personal vanity so important to him he couldn't go to his family? What was he like growing up, was he competitive? Underachieving? Troubled or unfocused? It didn't seem that way from what basic background information shared.
What would cause someone to have such out of the norm behavior, driving all over, contents in the car like he'd been sleeping in it etc. Mental breaks can happen, seems like he just broke, but with that break was there was a reason he was in that neighborhood? Again, so strange to find it randomly, walking out of your car and into the dessert to end it all. I agree with many that the people living on that street need a good looking at. It's been so many years, if the police investigated the names of those living on that street, or at that house in question, would they find criminal backgrounds? Could lead to a rabbit hole for them to question someone about Steven.

 

[Ignorant_Bystander]

I know being religious doesnt make you exempt from criminal behavior, I'm just troubled because it seemed he had a solid family support system and church values. Why turn to criminal activities if you could go home, why so desperate? Was personal vanity so important to him he couldn't go to his family? What was he like growing up, was he competitive? Underachieving? Troubled or unfocused? It didn't seem that way from what basic background information shared.
What would cause someone to have such out of the norm behavior, driving all over, contents in the car like he'd been sleeping in it etc. Mental breaks can happen, seems like he just broke, but with that break was there was a reason he was in that neighborhood? Again, so strange to find it randomly, walking out of your car and into the dessert to end it all. I agree with many that the people living on that street need a good looking at. It's been so many years, if the police investigated the names of those living on that street, or at that house in question, would they find criminal backgrounds? Could lead to a rabbit hole for them to question someone about Steven.

According to those who knew Steven personally on here, it sounds like he was naive and not street smart. Very likely he was duped or lied to about delivering either money or pills (my bet is that he was delivering pills), being told it was legit. Police did investigate the residents at 2260 Evening Lights in 2010, if that's the house you're referring to, as he was headed right in front of it on camera, but then was out of range. The person staying there at the time in the casita in December 2009, the son, was 41 and had a notable criminal background, was arrested for drug possession previously, I believe was also charged for domestic violence. Theres a police report on the case on the unfound website, if its still there to download, which details he was sketchy and shady when interviewed by police, and stevens landlord seemed equally shady with his criminal activity.. Also check out the podcast eyeson justice

 

[Evilxelvis138]

According to those who knew Steven personally on here, it sounds like he was naive and not street smart. Very likely he was duped or lied to about delivering either money or pills (my bet is that he was delivering pills), being told it was legit. Police did investigate the residents at 2260 Evening Lights in 2010, if that's the house you're referring to, as he was headed right in front of it on camera, but then was out of range. The person staying there at the time in the casita in December 2009, the son, was 41 and had a notable criminal background, was arrested for drug possession previously, I believe was also charged for domestic violence. Theres a police report on the case on the unfound website, if its still there to download, which details he was sketchy and shady when interviewed by police, and stevens landlord seemed equally shady with his criminal activity.. Also check out the podcast eyeson justice

I also learned from Arrin Stoner’s videos that there is a connection between the evening lights casita guy and Steven’s landlord.

 

[ChanceEncounterx]

I know being religious doesnt make you exempt from criminal behavior, I'm just troubled because it seemed he had a solid family support system and church values. Why turn to criminal activities if you could go home, why so desperate? Was personal vanity so important to him he couldn't go to his family? What was he like growing up, was he competitive? Underachieving? Troubled or unfocused? It didn't seem that way from what basic background information shared.
What would cause someone to have such out of the norm behavior, driving all over, contents in the car like he'd been sleeping in it etc. Mental breaks can happen, seems like he just broke, but with that break was there was a reason he was in that neighborhood? Again, so strange to find it randomly, walking out of your car and into the dessert to end it all. I agree with many that the people living on that street need a good looking at. It's been so many years, if the police investigated the names of those living on that street, or at that house in question, would they find criminal backgrounds? Could lead to a rabbit hole for them to question someone about Steven.

There is an interesting point that has been raised in my head as I read your post, and it was that he could have possibly parked there so whoever found his car could eventually sell it or keep it etc. I know that's a very sad theory but I lean a lot towards suicide in this case. What else could he possibly be doing? I'm sorry to say it but he didn't have anything going for him, so I'm not sure why anyone would've hired him for any odd jobs at that point, and let alone a gang or criminal organization, it just doesn't add up to me. I think something happened while he was on walkabout away from his car and it made him finally break (being lost or ending up near the desert while looking for work, lost phone etc) that he just gave up. Didn't he also leave some of his belongings in his car?



I really like/appreciate your posts btw, I think they raise some very valid questions and there's a lot of plausible theories we can pluck out from it. Thanks

 

[ChanceEncounterx]

I also learned from Arrin Stoner’s videos that there is a connection between the evening lights casita guy and Steven’s landlord.

Even if it was a confrontation type deal I just don't see Steven fighting back or lashing out, at least not to the extent of being killed/abducted?! Not even regular folk get beaten up to the point of death unless they did something to REALLY piss the instigator off...

Unless he was shot I could kind of believe it but there were no reported gunshots etc...

 

[giagreen]

I've never heard of putting an ad out to get strangers to come over and help me move. I always just assumed other people would be too busy to offer a helping hand for that kind of thing, but if he got paid then it could be a possibility. I personally think he wasn't in contact with anyone on the day except that phonecall he got from the bishop about driving back to help with the church session..

15 years ago I do remember craigslist and moving gigs to be a thing. It was an easy way to make a few extra bucks. There were other gigs also like yard work, cleaning house, ect. idk just seems like the most logical explaination to me and sometimes in these kinds of cases what's simple is true.

 

[Ignorant_Bystander]

15 years ago I do remember craigslist and moving gigs to be a thing. It was an easy way to make a few extra bucks. There were other gigs also like yard work, cleaning house, ect. idk just seems like the most logical explaination to me and sometimes in these kinds of cases what's simple is true.

Thats interesting but the only odd family on evening lights street were the dimaggios and since it was likely he was going into that house (he accidentally went to the second last house on Savannah Springs at first, apparently, and the dimaggios were the second last one on Evening Lights), it doesnt really fit MD's personality or lifestyle. He was a drug user and involved in other crimes as well, very shady and antisocial from what I gather when he was being interviewed by the police, and when he was described after being interviewed, through email I think, on EyesOn Justice, at one point he was called "paranoid". Hardly the type to ask a stranger for assistance around the house. Of course his landlord could have set up Steven to go over and help, but Steven's question "Do want the money" or "do you need money" (as its been told two different ways) isnt something one asks when arriving to a house ready to help them do some yard work or whatever

 

[lonewanderer]

Thats interesting but the only odd family on evening lights street were the dimaggios and since it was likely he was going into that house (he accidentally went to the second last house on Savannah Springs at first, apparently, and the dimaggios were the second last one on Evening Lights), it doesnt really fit MD's personality or lifestyle. He was a drug user and involved in other crimes as well, very shady and antisocial from what I gather when he was being interviewed by the police, and when he was described after being interviewed, through email I think, on EyesOn Justice, at one point he was called "paranoid". Hardly the type to ask a stranger for assistance around the house. Of course his landlord could have set up Steven to go over and help, but Steven's question "Do want the money" or "do you need money" (as its been told two different ways) isnt something one asks when arriving to a house ready to help them do some yard work or whatever

I think Steven’s landlord lied to Steven or omitted the truth from Steven about the contents of the delivery.

My theory is that Steven was unknowingly delivering some kind of blackmail material to the house his landlord sent him to, which caused the man there to fly into a rage and attack and kill Steven.

I think the contents really upset the person he was delivering it to. So my theory is it was either blackmail material or some kind of insulting content such as Monopoly money. Imagine Steven asking “need some money?” Only for the recipient to open it and it be full of “IOU” papers or Monopoly money that the landlord was supposed to give this person but didn’t.

 

[Glovey]

I am pleasantly surprised at the interest in this case appearing once more. Both are intriguing possibilities, aren't they? With elements consistent with some of the known facts.

"The odd family" on evening lights is true. You only need read the interview with MD, in Hunter's book to reach that conclusion. MD was using narcotics at the time, for alleged pain. This turned him into a paranoid individual on steroids, except the chemical was narcotics. This resulted in MD's scatter brained outlook. A neighbor directly across the street corroborates the weird address.

What are the contents of the soft case SK seems to be holding? Cash is untrackable, easily converted, and highly desirable. Blackmail material is interesting though. Which then raises the why, and who? SK is serving a billing notice? "Here's your bill" for X? I don't know, maybe. Arriving to collect, could cause someone to become angry, yes. Or, I see a scenario like this; SK had pills, and cash. Both untrackable, easily converted, and desirable. How do we know this would be his only stop, drop, or delivery? MD seized an opportunity, and in his diminished mental capacity made a fatal mistake.

LE!....Search the Evening Lights address for God's sake!

 

[fridaybaker]

Glovey, do you have or have you had any correspondence/communication with the police? (I can't remember who is in charge of this case right now. Is it the Henderson police? Did the FBI ever get involved? So much down the memory drain all these years later...)

I also wonder if SK's parents/family are trying to push things forward on this case. I'm not sure what that would be, but I just wonder if they're active at all.

So sad. I think Steven is long gone, sadly, but it would be good to know what happened to him, and to visit a bit of justice upon the one's who caused the disappearance.

 

[Glovey]

Glovey, do you have or have you had any correspondence/communication with the police? (I can't remember who is in charge of this case right now. Is it the Henderson police? Did the FBI ever get involved? So much down the memory drain all these years later...)

I also wonder if SK's parents/family are trying to push things forward on this case. I'm not sure what that would be, but I just wonder if they're active at all.

So sad. I think Steven is long gone, sadly, but it would be good to know what happened to him, and to visit a bit of justice upon the one's who caused the disappearance.

Fridaybaker, my understanding is Henderson LE still holds all the cards. Believe me when I say, I have looked into how to get the FBI involved. I came away disappointed, after being told the FBI would simply refer back to Henderson. Again, my understanding is the FBI will only come in when asked by the LE agency handling the case. Interestingly though, I believe St. George LE could ask for assistance from the FBI but; since Henderson is where the disappearance occured, this could negate their involvement. I don't think so, since SK lived in St. George.

It appears SK's family has contracted with a private investigator who is responsible for much of what is known about this case. As far as I know they are still investigating. No, it is not Stoner. However, Stoner has made some on point comments.

I have resigned myself to looking for updates in media and waiting for the contracted PI's to achieve some sort of cooperation with any LE agency. That property needs searching. I still believe SK could be buried on it somewhere. If not, at least it gets eliminated, right?

 

[fridaybaker]

Thanks for the update, Glovely. Yes, if that property could be searched, it could at least be ruled out. I just don't understand why this case never seemed to be much of a priority to LE. It's pretty obvious that he wasn't a walk-away/suicide, or at least to me it was. He was a man going through a difficult financial situation, but had a supportive family and from what we've heard had some reprieve on the rent, and was making steps toward getting back on his feet. On top of that, his landlord was very, very sketchy, and he was seen heading in the direction another very sketchy guy, who just happened to be connected to the landlord. Perhaps the details aren't known, but it seems awfully obvious to me what the general picture was. I do think SK would be alive today if he'd lived in a different house.