NV NV - Steven T. Koecher, 30, Henderson, 13 Dec 2009 - #10

[sarx]

Got it, thanks.

 

[RubyRed]

Does anyone have pictures of the dogs that were at the search on Saturday? 3 of them right? Something is just bugging me about this.

What is bugging you about the dogs? Aside from the fact that they sound like family pets out for a day during the search.

 

[sarx]

What is bugging you about the dogs? Aside from the fact that they sound like family pets out for a day during the search.

Just that, family pets out on a search. This PI, he worked with LVPD for 25 years, he was an investigator, he knows what he's doing. Why run such an informal search one that would break just about every rule he has ever been taught? Especially if he had a "reliable" tip and thought he was likely to find something. No way would some with his background risk having a bunch of untrained people trampling a crime scene, let alone dogs running a muck.

Who is the male on the last picture with the dog next him? The one that is wearing the hydration pack?

 

[RubyRed]

Photos Courtesy: Rolf D. Koecher

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=10342762

I brought them here so we could look again.

 

[RubyRed]

There is also a video at this link of the search.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=10342762

 

[RubyRed]

Just that, family pets out on a search. This PI, he worked with LVPD for 25 years, he was an investigator, he knows what he's doing. Why run such an informal search one that would break just about every rule he has ever been taught? Especially if he had a "reliable" tip and thought he was likely to find something. No way would some with his background risk having a bunch of untrained people trampling a crime scene, let alone dogs running a muck.

Who is the male on the last picture with the dog next him? The one that is wearing the hydration pack?

I do not know, who it is. I know what you are saying about the PI. He seems very experienced. So why would pets be running around? Bizarre really.

 

[hollyblue]

I like these little guys. He should have been there too. Would have cleared that desert in nothing flat.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...mage_result&resnum=4&ct=image&ved=0CBAQ9QEwAw

 

[guitar3]

Just that, family pets out on a search. This PI, he worked with LVPD for 25 years, he was an investigator, he knows what he's doing. Why run such an informal search one that would break just about every rule he has ever been taught? Especially if he had a "reliable" tip and thought he was likely to find something. No way would some with his background risk having a bunch of untrained people trampling a crime scene, let alone dogs running a muck.

Who is the male on the last picture with the dog next him? The one that is wearing the hydration pack?

I do know that the dog w/ the red bandanna on is the one that I described as the rottweiler/shepard mix...he belongs to the guy with the red hat and blue shirt in pic #1, #3 & #4. I have no idea who the guy is wearing the hydration pack.

 

[sbakker]

I like these little guys. He should have been there too. Would have cleared that desert in nothing flat.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...mage_result&resnum=4&ct=image&ved=0CBAQ9QEwAw

Ha!ha!ha! That is funny! Sometimes you need to just have something to laugh at!

 

[sarx]

Interesting as the guy in the red hat doesn't appear to be in the bottom picture, unless he is behind the people on the right side.

If you watch the video clip, right at the end there is a another still shot where the guy with the hydration pack is again with a dog in front of him behind the brush. Can't tell if it's the same dog.

 

[guitar3]

Interesting as the guy in the red hat doesn't appear to be in the bottom picture, unless he is behind the people on the right side.

If you watch the video clip, right at the end there is a another still shot where the guy with the hydration pack is again with a dog in front of him behind the brush. Can't tell if it's the same dog.

I watched it a few times and there is a shot with the same guy with the hydration pack and same dog & think it was taken actually at the same time but from a different angle. Also if you look at the last picture there is a picture of the pit bull towards the left of the picture...not a real clear shot of it but i'm more than sure that's the pit bull.

 

[sarx]

It almost looks to me like the dog is on lead with the hydro pack guy in that shot? It's so fuzzy or my eyes are, having a hard time telling.

 

[RubyRed]

http://www.clippertoday.com/pages/f...rt+for+clues+about+Steven+Koecher &id=7088592

Couple more pics, not very big.

 

[guitar3]

It almost looks to me like the dog is on lead with the hydro pack guy in that shot? It's so fuzzy or my eyes are, having a hard time telling.

Ok...I know where your getting the idea that they hydropack guy has the dog. I went back and studied the pic's again...I know when I was out searching with the dog owner (lets say bandanna dog) and he was busy digging or getting his truck he asked several people to hold the bandanna dog's leash. Thats probably why it looks like hydropack guy has control over bandanna dog. Can't remember which pic but it does look like hydropack guy is holding bandanna dogs leash.

 

[sarx]

Do you know who red hat guy is?

 

[guitar3]

Do you know who red hat guy is?

No, I didn't take the time to find out personally who he was but he seemed very dedicated to finding SK & a very nice guy.

 

[Sin City]

I just had a chat with my husband regarding Rever Golf Club, as he is an avid golfer. Sunday is the most active day for golf courses. Revere is a public course. Neither of us noticed any walking paths on the course. Usually if there is a walking path on courses there is a line of trees or hedges between the cart path, and walking path. Revere seems to only have cart paths.

My husband, and his friends notice people if they are walking on a course without cart or clubs. They have seen people walking along the edges of courses hunting for stray golf balls, and one time a drunk wandering around.

With this said I wonder if the PI could ask the manager at Revere to allow him to contact the players that played on Sunday, Dec 13th, if they noticed anyone wandering around the course? They would be helping find a missing person, so why would the players be inconvenienced?

 

[hollyblue]

I just had a chat with my husband regarding Rever Golf Club, as he is an avid golfer. Sunday is the most active day for golf courses. Revere is a public course. Neither of us noticed any walking paths on the course. Usually if there is a walking path on courses there is a line of trees or hedges between the cart path, and walking path. Revere seems to only have cart paths.

My husband, and his friends notice people if they are walking on a course without cart or clubs. They have seen people walking along the edges of courses hunting for stray golf balls, and one time a drunk wandering around.

With this said I wonder if the PI could ask the manager at Revere to allow him to contact the players that played on Sunday, Dec 13th, if they noticed anyone wandering around the course? They would be helping find a missing person, so why would the players be inconvenienced?

Not a bad idea at all. So there is no way Steven would have cut through the golf course if trying to go west toward the airport?

 

[hollyblue]

This is going to be a stretch of an idea, but what if Steven was persuaded to go to another country and pick up drugs and got caught in the process. I remember that program "Locked Up Abroad". Some of those people are locked up for a very long time or get the death penalty. Didn't like typing that. But I don't think he would call home and the other guys pretty much get off.

 

[ms_writer]

I just remembered something . . . Remember way back in the beginning, when Naegle was posting often, we asked if she was witholding anything from us? She said that there was only one thing she was holding back that had nothing to do with his disappearance, something that was "just Steven."

I wonder if now that so much time has passed, and the family is leaning toward the idea that Steven is not coming home, she would be willing to disclose this bit of info to help us? Laytonian, are you still on good terms with her?