NV NV - Steven T. Koecher, 30, Henderson, 13 Dec 2009 - #21

[Aimee]

There are much better quality video images available. They were shared in the beginning of this thread.

If that is the case, why do many people think he was carrying a "folder" then?
The video still that I posted was enhanced strictly to show Steven was carrying a backpack, NOT a folder. It was enhanced to show the details of the Back Pack Steven was carrying by adjusting the brightness and contrast of the video still that I have posted.

Its my IMO that whatever Steven was carrying in that backpack is the reason why Steven is not here today. Steven was expecting to go back to Utah because he offered to cover for his friend at church, and bought presents along the way of his mysterious travels.

And whatever was in that backpack Steven was carrying IMO was meant to be delivered to someone.. IMO Steven was not having a sleepover, going camping, or going to a "show n' tell" with whatever the contents of this backpack he was carrying.

Steven was picking up something and delivering something among his mysterious travels.. and somebody was paying him for the gas... and agreed price of these trips, IMO.

 

[Sin City]

Just my opinion, but this whole cartel theory seems about as plausible as a goldfish starting at center for the Chicago Bulls.

IMO SK had recently been doing work for someone in order to pay his rent, and back rent. Transporting prescription drugs, or money?! I believe this is what got him into the situation, which resulted in his disappearance.

Did SK end up meeting with the head of a drug cartel in Anthem?! I don't know! This person would have had to been of a retirement age, as Anthem is a retirement community. Does Anthem HOA allow renters?

I do believe that LE knows everyone whom lived in the area, and I find it hard to believe that LE wouldn't know if one of them was the head of the LV cartel. If LE did know this, or suspected it than they still would have to investigate SK's disappearance based on known shady characters in the area.

 

[Montjoy]

Let's also not forget Steven's character and networks. I find it highly unlikely that he would know anyone in this 'line of work' or be inclined to do it. And why he would be killed is another question altogether.

 

[Sin City]

Let's also not forget Steven's character and networks. I find it highly unlikely that he would know anyone in this 'line of work' or be inclined to do it. And why he would be killed is another question altogether.

SK's landlord was in this kind of work. I'm not allowed to name him, due to WS rules. However, his name is on this thread in the beginning. If one pulls police records in Utah one will find a number of offences prior to, and after SK's disappearance. Most recent 10/2013.

 

[Fairy1]

I don't completely discount the theory of drug or money running and it's been discussed before. I do have several issues with the way this theory has been presented of late.

Why on earth would someone implicate themselves in illegal behavior in an effort to float a theory? And the idea that a drug cartel house was being run out of that Anthem neighborhood is, quite frankly, laughable. I have been there more than once and I can tell you nothing of that nature would go unnoticed for 30 seconds.

Had anything led LE to believe there was some chance of this, I would like to believe they would have taken Steven's disappearance a little more seriously and actively sought any connection to this type of "work" he may have had. But they didn't and haven't.

 

[Aimee]

I don't completely discount the theory of drug or money running and it's been discussed before. I do have several issues with the way this theory has been presented of late.

Why on earth would someone implicate themselves in illegal behavior in an effort to float a theory? And the idea that a drug cartel house was being run out of that Anthem neighborhood is, quite frankly, laughable. I have been there more than once and I can tell you nothing of that nature would go unnoticed for 30 seconds.

Had anything led LE to believe there was some chance of this, I would like to believe they would have taken Steven's disappearance a little more seriously and actively sought any connection to this type of "work" he may have had. But they didn't and haven't.

My theory is based on a cartel courier profile. The Sinaloa Cartel had a safe house in Anthem from ? till Dec 2009 is a FACT. It is also a know fact that the current trend of the Cartel safe houses are located in upscale adult neighborhood (low key) in order to prevent detection from LE. You can call Homeland security and the DEA and they will confirm of what say is true.

Also to clarify what a safe house is: It is a place where the bulk of the drugs and cash proceeds is stored only. Where the drugs are distributed to local cells (homes) where cartel delivery drivers reside. Vehicle traffic is very low at the Cartels safe house. And the couriers who pick up and deliver at these safe houses are told to park their car down the street around the block in case they are being tailed by LE, so the couriers car is NOT PARKED in front of the safe house or in the safe house driveway, IF LE is indeed tailing the courier, LE would not know what house the courier went too.

I think we can all agree that Steven was NOT passing flyers out in Anthem, Correct? If so, then WHO told Steven to park at the dead end, carrying a back pack under his left sided arm, concealed out of view from the realtor driving that white SUV? Why couldn't Steven drive right to the house with that Back Pack? Why was it so important to keep Steven's car parked down and around the block?

I did not come to Websleuths to look for any trouble. I simply asked if two vehicles may been at that location in Anthem. I figured maybe some local Anthem neighbors may be on this forum that would of known these vehicles.
That's all.

 

[Sin City]

My theory is based on a cartel courier profile. The Sinaloa Cartel had a safe house in Anthem from ? till Dec 2009 is a FACT. It is also a know fact that the current trend of the Cartel safe houses are located in upscale adult neighborhood (low key) in order to prevent detection from LE. You can call Homeland security and the DEA and they will confirm of what say is true.

Also to clarify what a safe house is: It is a place where the bulk of the drugs and cash proceeds is stored only. Where the drugs are distributed to local cells (homes) where cartel delivery drivers reside. Vehicle traffic is very low at the Cartels safe house. And the couriers who pick up and deliver at these safe houses are told to park their car down the street around the block in case they are being tailed by LE, so the couriers car is NOT PARKED in front of the safe house or in the safe house driveway, IF LE is indeed tailing the courier, LE would not know what house the courier went too.

I think we can all agree that Steven was NOT passing flyers out in Anthem, Correct? If so, then WHO told Steven to park at the dead end, carrying a back pack under his left sided arm, concealed out of view from the realtor driving that white SUV? Why couldn't Steven drive right to the house with that Back Pack? Why was it so important to keep Steven's car parked down and around the block?

I did not come to Websleuths to look for any trouble. I simply asked if two vehicles may been at that location in Anthem. I figured maybe some local Anthem neighbors may be on this forum that would of known these vehicles.
That's all.

BBM According to your statements on this thread you know WHO! Do the right thing, and bring SK home!

 

[Sin City]

My theory is based on a cartel courier profile. The Sinaloa Cartel had a safe house in Anthem from ? till Dec 2009 is a FACT. It is also a know fact that the current trend of the Cartel safe houses are located in upscale adult neighborhood (low key) in order to prevent detection from LE. You can call Homeland security and the DEA and they will confirm of what say is true.

Also to clarify what a safe house is: It is a place where the bulk of the drugs and cash proceeds is stored only. Where the drugs are distributed to local cells (homes) where cartel delivery drivers reside. Vehicle traffic is very low at the Cartels safe house. And the couriers who pick up and deliver at these safe houses are told to park their car down the street around the block in case they are being tailed by LE, so the couriers car is NOT PARKED in front of the safe house or in the safe house driveway, IF LE is indeed tailing the courier, LE would not know what house the courier went too.

I think we can all agree that Steven was NOT passing flyers out in Anthem, Correct? If so, then WHO told Steven to park at the dead end, carrying a back pack under his left sided arm, concealed out of view from the realtor driving that white SUV? Why couldn't Steven drive right to the house with that Back Pack? Why was it so important to keep Steven's car parked down and around the block?

I did not come to Websleuths to look for any trouble. I simply asked if two vehicles may been at that location in Anthem. I figured maybe some local Anthem neighbors may be on this forum that would of known these vehicles.
That's all.

BBM Those vehicles were on Google before SK disappeared.

 

[Aimee]

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BBM Those vehicles were on Google before SK disappeared.

Are you referring to Google Earth image dated 9/12/2006? I see a white van, but unsure if I see a white pickup truck. The white ford pickup truck had a black plastic toolbox behind the cab that sat on top of the bed.

Looking at that vehicle parked in the street, if it was facing south, it would appear that it could be a white pickup truck with a black tool box.

The other car that this Cartel owned was a grey metallic Toyota Camry driven by the delivery guys who resided by Washington and Hollywood in Las Vegas.

Can anyone confirm the above vehicles belong to a house in that neighborhood?

 

[Dixie811]

Are you referring to Google Earth image dated 9/12/2006? I see a white van, but unsure if I see a white pickup truck. The white ford pickup truck had a black plastic toolbox behind the cab that sat on top of the bed.

Looking at that vehicle parked in the street, if it was facing south, it would appear that it could be a white pickup truck with a black tool box.

The other car that this Cartel owned was a grey metallic Toyota Camry driven by the delivery guys who resided by Washington and Hollywood in Las Vegas.

Can anyone confirm the above vehicles belong to a house in that neighborhood?

I appreciate the effort you're making to discuss here on WS the information you believe may be important to Steven's disappearance But, JMO, if you know anything relevant to Steven's disappearance you should give all of that information to the police immediately and then keep your tip off of the internet. Anyone can access this thread and read it at any time, so it isn't a good idea to put sensitive information that may be directly related to solving a case on here.

JMO :seeya:

 

[TroyinTX]

Just started reading through this thread yesterday; have not read all 21 threads, but I feel I have a basic idea of the case.

I wonder how seriously LE did a search of that neighborhood. Sometimes, I do believe things are as simple as they seem and I definitely feel this is the case with Steven's disappearance.

Now, I am in NO way saying this case is simple. What I mean is that it is my gut feeling based on reading these threads, watching the videos, etc.. that what happened to Steven to cause him to go missing happened very near to where his car was parked. What exactly happened to him there makes this case certainly NOT simple, but I tend to believe he was there to meet up with someone in regards to an ad or something posted online or elsewhere and met with foul play. I very much think the answer to what happened to him lies very near to where his car was parked.

 

[Aimee]

Somebody needs to correct ForSteven.com Q@A page regarding this:
Q. Why do Steven's car and Steven's image appear to slow down in the surveillance video?
A. The lenses used on the surveillance system are "fisheye" lenses. The recordings give the impression of slowing down, which is misleading.

The Correct "A" is: Steven was slowing down his car for a dip in the road (drain channel) at the intersection of Evening Lights St. and Savannah Springs Ave. that crosses over Savannah Springs Ave.

The surveillance camera does not have a "fisheye" lens.. maybe a 15mm wide angle lens.

 

[Aimee]

Why would the head of the cartel be at your house? If you & your husband knew these folks then why are you posting here? Also, why would you be following the cartel's activities?

A) I was buying drugs from the Cartel. The head of the Cartel delivered them using his white Ford Van. He was so dam nervous on his cell phone he forgot to ask me for the money and left with out it. I heard a lot about him, but it was the first time I met him and the last time right before he took off the southern California.

B) To help bust the crooks that may be involved in Stevens disappearance.

C)The Sinaloa Cartel is a bunch of very interesting people. I enjoyed very much learning about them in person.

And little about me:

I knew 5 murders personally.
4 of which murdered 2 of my friends.

And the rest of my friends growing up are all dead from drug related homicides, suicides and overdoses. All except 2 of them that are still alive today.

 

[EdinburghLass]

Is there any evidence that Steven was involved with a cartel? Besides him carrying a backpack?

 

[EdinburghLass]

Just started reading through this thread yesterday; have not read all 21 threads, but I feel I have a basic idea of the case.

I wonder how seriously LE did a search of that neighborhood. Sometimes, I do believe things are as simple as they seem and I definitely feel this is the case with Steven's disappearance.

Now, I am in NO way saying this case is simple. What I mean is that it is my gut feeling based on reading these threads, watching the videos, etc.. that what happened to Steven to cause him to go missing happened very near to where his car was parked. What exactly happened to him there makes this case certainly NOT simple, but I tend to believe he was there to meet up with someone in regards to an ad or something posted online or elsewhere and met with foul play. I very much think the answer to what happened to him lies very near to where his car was parked.

I agree with all of this. Usually, the simplest theory is the most correct. Take the case of JaRay Wilson. Theories were going around that she had been trafficked for sex. Turns out she was killed close to home in a drug-related murder. Obviously there are exceptions. But not often.

 

[Aimee]

SK's landlord was in this kind of work. I'm not allowed to name him, due to WS rules. However, his name is on this thread in the beginning. If one pulls police records in Utah one will find a number of offences prior to, and after SK's disappearance. Most recent 10/2013.

I never realized that Stevens LL was involved with this kind of work until you mentioned it to me.

It is very possible that Steven was doing his LL a "favor" for his back rent, unwittingly knowing exactly what Steven was getting himself in to, until Steven arrived at Anthem, a big surprise.

When I was about twenty years old, I done a few "favors" like this for a drug dealer I owed a debt to. I drove from NYC to a Bar at NJ and delivered a big sack of Blow to the bartender. A person I never met before. I was given strick directions by the drug dealer on where to park at the Bar, and how to enter the Bar, and exactly what word I needed to tell the bartender. Although it was fairly a safe environment, if I would of came up missing from that trip, It would be a huge mystery to everyone.. because nobody knew except the dealer, where I went to, and for what reason.

I don't know.. with all these mysterious trips Steven was taking, if Steven did not have a secondary phone with him that was related to these trips, then it was someone involved by face to face.

 

[Aimee]

Well think about this:

a) Steven owed the landlord money
b) The landlord was calling Steven the day he went missing & was the last person to either call or receive a text/call from Steven (according to the ping map)
c) There was a rumor the landlord never tried to call/text Steven after the day he went missing. If this is true, this would indicate the landlord knew Steven wouldn't be answering his phone. How would the landlord know that?


There is no arrow directly pointing to the landlord but all this stuff kinda makes you wonder...

And was the landlord indeed calling Steven on the day of his disappearance?
Maybe he was very concerned about Stevens trip he might of sent him on?
Not about the rent, but the outcome..

 

[TroyinTX]

I feel like the scenario beginning to emerge in these last few posts could be very likely what happened to Steven.

 

[Aimee]

IMO SK had recently been doing work for someone in order to pay his rent, and back rent. Transporting prescription drugs, or money?! I believe this is what got him into the situation, which resulted in his disappearance.

Did SK end up meeting with the head of a drug cartel in Anthem?! I don't know! This person would have had to been of a retirement age, as Anthem is a retirement community. Does Anthem HOA allow renters?

Sin City, here is what I found about that house with the white vehicles in question as shown in Google maps history.

The original owners bought the house back in 6/9/2005

http://lasvegas.blockshopper.com/property/19113817016/2260_evening_lights_street/

Then they bought a much bigger house that was in foreclosure in 7/31/2008

http://lasvegas.blockshopper.com/property/19124711057/2789_rosenhearty_drive/


I would think they would of moved from the Anthem location in to the new bigger house, and rented out the Anthem house from 7/31/2008 till they strategically foreclosed on it on 5/3/2011, because the Anthem house was underwater with the mortgage.

But then when you use http://www.advancedbackgroundchecks.com with their names, it seems like it was like an investment property. I guess checking with a utility company we only can be sure.

 

[Aimee]

Here is a few news stories regarding members of the cartel busted in Utah.
It would give you an idea of how normal these people would look and what kind of communities they lived in.

http://fox13now.com/2013/10/08/meth-operation-busted-in-park-city-officials-say/

http://www.4utah.com/content/news/t...back-to-Mexico/d/story/t6kCWUuVl0exkLFPhxiyJA