NV NV - Steven T. Koecher, 30, Henderson, 13 Dec 2009 - # 6

[hollyblue]

I don't have to remind you about Utah being infamous for "food supplements" and "herbal diet remedies" (often sold via MLMs and pyramids) that can contain real drugs.

A coworker of my husband's lost 35 pounds in a month two years ago, on one of those miracle-herbal diets, then almost died from the complications of the drugs he was unknowingly ingesting.

While he was taking [I can't remember the name, darn it!], he was jumpy, couldn't sit still, talked a mile a minute, couldn't focus on his job, but sure looked busy ... about what you're describing. And it was all caused by a supplement that was sold to him as all natural, compliant to the words of wisdom, safe because you don't need a prescription, blah blah blah.

(I'll ask if perhaps Steven was working in an MLM.....)

I believe you may be talking about Ephedra. I know of a case where a high school boy had taken it as a stimulant for his wrestling abilities and passed....very prominent in teens. Especially young girls with a weight issue. Bad stuff

.http://altmedicine.about.com/cs/allergiesasthma/a/Ephedra.htm

http://www.gcrg.org/bqr/7-3/mormon-tea.htm

 

[laytonian]

This is the only you tube video other than the two surveillance cameras. Also there is not any comments on it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWT6sA2O190&feature=player_embedded#

OK, what am I doing wrong?

I have a simple policy: WHENEVER I see a news story or website about Steven, and there's a place for a comment, I try to do so. Someone has to be first. I post a link to the timeline page, because it leads everywhere.

BUT....why can't I comment on that video? I am signed in, I put in my comment, press the POST COMMENT button....and the little block just kinda fades out. I tried again, and it then said that I had fewer characters left to post -- so it knows I've done something.

I've either posted nothing twice, or two duplicates.

I guess being irritating, is better than nothing at all

 

[RubyRed]

I was wondering about golf, too, especially since the neighborhood where the car was left seems to be very near a golf course. Around here it's pretty common for guys to get up early and play golf Sunday morning, then get to church by noon.

If they haven't already, maybe check to see whether anybody who looked like GW and Steven played there?

Why not just park at the golf course? What reason would there be to park,elsewhere and walk. Unless he was meeting someone, from the area. Whether it was someone visiting ( son , grandson ). It was Sunday, a day when
family does visit and it was a 55+ community. I tend to believe his connection to EL was someone his age was visiting someone they knew there and they decided to meet up.

 

[sbakker]

I was looking on GW facebook, and some of his friends are MY friends kids. I will try to get some info about him. When we were living in St. George, people often went there to eat buffets and gamble. Often times Church members) were embarrased if you saw them there.

 

[laytonian]

Why not just park at the golf course? What reason would there be to park,elsewhere and walk.

Unfamiliar with the area, and wanted to walk to the hills? It's only about three miles, if you walk through the golf course. (If you look at the satellite view, you can see the path between two houses that leads that way, and you wouldn't have to walk ON the course itself....but could skirt the edges.)

Unless he was meeting someone, from the area. Whether it was someone visiting ( son , grandson ). It was Sunday, a day when
family does visit and it was a 55+ community. I tend to believe his connection to EL was someone his age was visiting someone they knew there and they decided to meet up.

Except why couldn't he park at that home?
If you're meeting someone and going somewhere with them, why not meet somewhere else? Like a casino/hotel parking lot, where your car wouldn't be noticed for weeks? And where there's security cameras helping to keep it safe? (Little did the person who parked the car, know about Mr S).
Where would they be going? Not north, because he could have left his car at home.

EL itself has only 8 homes, but there's many more west of Laurel Heights...and his parking space would have been semi-logical for most of them. It's the only cul de sac inside or near the entire Anthem Parkway
loop.

 

[sbakker]

Its amazing to me, the things I saw on GW's facebook this morning ,are now gone. Also, he he has nothingn between De.9- Dec.20? Whats that all about?

 

[laytonian]

I believe you may be talking about Ephedra. I know of a case where a high school boy had taken it as a stimulant for his wrestling abilities and passed....very prominent in teens. Especially young girls with a weight issue. Bad stuff

.http://altmedicine.about.com/cs/allergiesasthma/a/Ephedra.htm

http://www.gcrg.org/bqr/7-3/mormon-tea.htm

Likely so. I see that since Herbalife took it out of their products, other companies have sprung up, offering network marketing opportunities selling "Golden Rush", etc, etc.

 

[RubyRed]

OK, what am I doing wrong?

I have a simple policy: WHENEVER I see a news story or website about Steven, and there's a place for a comment, I try to do so. Someone has to be first. I post a link to the timeline page, because it leads everywhere.

BUT....why can't I comment on that video? I am signed in, I put in my comment, press the POST COMMENT button....and the little block just kinda fades out. I tried again, and it then said that I had fewer characters left to post -- so it knows I've done something.

I've either posted nothing twice, or two duplicates.

I guess being irritating, is better than nothing at all

You are doing nothing wrong . In fact I am very impressed with everything you have done, Laytonian . I hope you didn't think I was criticizing you. Sometimes I just re-read things to do with Steven because you never know when a comment someone has left might lead to more answers.

 

[My6]

Its amazing to me, the things I saw on GW's facebook this morning ,are now gone. Also, he he has nothingn between De.9- Dec.20? Whats that all about?

I just saw that too.. Interesting..

 

[laytonian]

Its amazing to me, the things I saw on GW's facebook this morning ,are now gone. Also, he he has nothingn between De.9- Dec.20? Whats that all about?

I can still see it
here

 

[laytonian]

You are doing nothing wrong . In fact I am very impressed with everything you have done, Laytonian . I hope you didn't think I was criticizing you. Sometimes I just re-read things to do with Steven because you never know when a comment someone has left might lead to more answers.

No, no, no! I meant "what am I doing wrong ON YOUTUBE!" ha ha ha

Can someone else try posting the URL with a short "See here for more info?"

http://snurl.com/koecher

Because that video was put together by LE, it might help get some attention BY LE to what we've dug up so far.

 

[fabulsgirl]

Its amazing to me, the things I saw on GW's facebook this morning ,are now gone. Also, he he has nothingn between De.9- Dec.20? Whats that all about?

I was going to mention that. I am sure he is either watching these threads or someone from his ward is and is feeding him this info. Thats ok, I am sure someone out there took a screen shot. Also, one of the friends that commented about the Wendover/Mesquite thing is a TOTAL VEGAS PARTY guy. That is why I suggested he was in Vegas gambling.

 

[renn3434]

I've emailed numerous people on the Bloomington Hills Ward (with no response) asking them to help confirm ward temple night and asked a few (not all) general questions about GW hoping to start some form of communication with them and then ask the questions about GW we really wanted to know. I also directed them to this site to come help us out. I would guess that someone I emailed told GW about this site. So GW if you are reading this and at an all time low because of this, help us out. You'll feel better! If you're at an all time low for other reasons......help us out!

 

[hollyblue]

Here are some facts on a one mile radius of intersection where car was found. Hope it works...having trouble here:

Keep getting map not available on the link: http://citymaps.cityofhenderson.com/imf/sites/HendersonCrimeStat/jsp/wizard.jsp

DETAILED CRIME REPORT
This report reflects crime reports made during period of 11/01/09 to 1/31/09

View Summary Print Report

Crime Type: BURGLARY
Offense: BURGLARY
Address: 2300 BLOCK WHITES FERRY CT
Date: December 11 2009

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Crime Type: BURGLARY
Offense: BURGLARY
Address: 2400 BLOCK ANTRIM IRISH
Date: November 24 2009

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Crime Type: BURGLARY
Offense: BURGLARY
Address: 2400 BLOCK HAMONAH DR
Date: December 19 2009

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Crime Type: BURGLARY
Offense: BURGLARY
Address: 2700 BLOCK KINDEACE
Date: December 25 2009

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Crime Type: BURGLARY
Offense: BURGLARY
Address: 2900 BLOCK STRATHSPEY CT
Date: November 22 2009

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Crime Type: NARCOTICS
Offense: NARCOTICS
Address: SUN CITY ANTHEM DR
Date: January 5 2010

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Crime Type: NARCOTICS
Offense: NARCOTICS
Address: ANTHEM PKWY
Date: November 23 2009

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Crime Type: NARCOTICS
Offense: NARCOTICS
Address: ANTHEM PKWY
Date: November 23 2009

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Crime Type: NARCOTICS
Offense: NARCOTICS
Address: ANTRIM IRISH DR
Date: November 6 2009

 

[laytonian]

Here are some facts on a one mile radius of intersection where car was found. Hope it works...having trouble here:

Keep getting map not available on the link: http://citymaps.cityofhenderson.com/imf/sites/HendersonCrimeStat/jsp/wizard.jsp

Yeah, that URL doesn't drop cookies and it can't be reused on someone else's computer.

Thanks for doing that! I'd done it a couple of weeks ago, and just got the results I'd posted before, from 1 Oct-31 Dec. That time, there were 14 crimes, (6 in December).

5 crimes in the first two months of 2010; the 6 in December still show. None of the December crimes were Steven's case....which verifies that it's not being investigated as a crime.....or that since there's no crime scene, who knows what took place where?

The interesting thing?
We continue to see a low crime rate AND all crimes reported on the very edge of that one-mile distance.
Who's going to turn themselves in as a perp?

 

[My6]

No, no, no! I meant "what am I doing wrong ON YOUTUBE!" ha ha ha

Can someone else try posting the URL with a short "See here for more info?"

http://snurl.com/koecher

Because that video was put together by LE, it might help get some attention BY LE to what we've dug up so far.

Ok, it is not YOU, because I have tried to post the link as well and it just fades and never does it either. Considering it has been viewed over 500+ times.. makes you wonder if they are not actually accepting comments for some strange reason??

 

[laytonian]

Ok, it is not YOU, because I have tried to post the link as well and it just fades and never does it either. Considering it has been viewed over 500+ times.. makes you wonder if they are not actually accepting comments for some strange reason??

Thank you!
I've seen videos with comments disabled....so I'm wondering if the comments are being redirected to LE.

They'll be sorry. They've got at least four timeline links from me...and whatever you sent them. At least they knew we're serious, darn it!

 

[hollyblue]

Thank you!
I've seen videos with comments disabled....so I'm wondering if the comments are being redirected to LE.

They'll be sorry. They've got at least four timeline links from me...and whatever you sent them. At least they knew we're serious, darn it!

Lay, There's a link--on the link I posted to HPD for an email.

 

[RubyRed]

This is my best attempt at putting another youtube video up of Steven.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgP51qwUER4

 

[laytonian]

This is my best attempt at putting another youtube video up of Steven.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgP51qwUER4

Thank you. I can't comment on that link, either.

Weirdest thing. Ever. Well...not quite. It's par for the course in this case.