NV NV - Steven T. Koecher, 30, Henderson, 13 Dec 2009 - # 7

[hoppyfrog]

Hey, Peeps!

Just a reminder that at WS we do not post people's personal information, like addresses, phone numbers, etc.

Be well,

Hoppy
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[Fairy1]

Or come across one of these loons, yikes, there is 2 on the same street (73 total)

http://www.city-data.com/so/so-Henderson-Nevada.html

I just want to mention that Henderson is quite large and, in addition to Anthem, it includes one of the oldest (& seediest, IMO) parts of this area as well as what is commonly referred to as Green Valley.

I did a search for RSO's just in the Anthem area a while back and didn't find any.

Then again, not ALL sex offenders are registered, and even if they are, it doesn't mean they're not doing something they shouldn't be doing.

 

[laytonian]

I just want to mention that Henderson is quite large and, in addition to Anthem, it includes one of the oldest (& seediest, IMO) parts of this area as well as what is commonly referred to as Green Valley.

I did a search for RSO's just in the Anthem area a while back and didn't find any.
Then again, not ALL sex offenders are registered, and even if they are, it doesn't mean they're not doing something they shouldn't be doing.

I do periodic searches on the City of Henderson's police website, to see how many crimes have been reported within a mile of the cul de sac where Steven parked, and the most I've ever found was 14 for a 3-month period. AND....most that I've found, have occurred either in the common areas or at the large intersections. There were a couple of residential burglaries around
Christmas, but they were also far from that location.

What looks like "lots of nearby crime" isn't as much, when you realize how far those "lots" are away from Anthem Sun City.

 

[Sin City]

Hello all. Would someone help me figure out the correct owners of the house where the SUV stopped. I understand that this is the home of the mortgage services, but was this prior to the sale fo this home 1/7/2010 as per Clark County Assessor, or does the current owner have the home based business.

If I'm reading the assessor pages correctly it was the previous owner with the home based business, and the owner who was in residence at the time of Steven's disappearance, 12/13/2009. Help!

So, was the person in the SUV showing the home on 12/13/09? Was this home empty at this time, or was the owner on record on this date still residing in the home?

Sorry that I'm stumbling over this.

 

[Fairy1]

Three sides of Anthem are surrounded by hills/desert, with the north side showing the Vegas skyline.

I've previously mapped out walking times from where the car was parked, and in nearly any direction, he could have been in the hills within 90 minutes.

Anyone know how we could fine out, what's been searched? At first, I thought the west hills....but if he did take the long way around to get to an address on the other side of the Parkway.....he could be out there.

Per Frank Mahoney of the Nevada Center for Missing Loved Ones - who was on the search:

Searched off Anthem Pkwy in the housing area of Sky Valley and Outlook Village door to door. All the flood channel in Sun City Anthem (approx 10-15 miles by ATV) all the surrounding desert by Metro helicopter and Henderson dirt bikes , Golf course on foot by the family.

 

[ding174]

hmmmm whats new ?

anything ?

new developements, theories, leads, clues. POI's?

 

[webrocket]

Hello all. Would someone help me figure out the correct owners of the house where the SUV stopped. I understand that this is the home of the mortgage services, but was this prior to the sale fo this home 1/7/2010 as per Clark County Assessor, or does the current owner have the home based business.

If I'm reading the assessor pages correctly it was the previous owner with the home based business, and the owner who was in residence at the time of Steven's disappearance, 12/13/2009. Help!

So, was the person in the SUV showing the home on 12/13/09? Was this home empty at this time, or was the owner on record on this date still residing in the home?

Sorry that I'm stumbling over this.

Steven OBVIOUSLY walked AWAY from that home. I believe LE spoke to the owners or realtor a long time ago. IMO not worth looking into.

 

[Canyon1]

Per Frank Mahoney of the Nevada Center for Missing Loved Ones - who was on the search:

Searched off Anthem Pkwy in the housing area of Sky Valley and Outlook Village door to door. All the flood channel in Sun City Anthem (approx 10-15 miles by ATV) all the surrounding desert by Metro helicopter and Henderson dirt bikes , Golf course on foot by the family.

Thanks! I was under the impression that they had done a search in the foothills on foot, but that makes sense. There's no evidence that SK even headed for the wilds. (or anywhere else for that matter) If he did though, he sure has on clothes that would make him blend in with the surroundings, especially doing a cursory search by helicopter or motorcycle.

 

[fasteddy4]

Haven't been around for a few days. Have read all the posts but no time to comment at this second.

But, I'm going to do something I should have done a while ago. I know there has been a lot of talk about Steven's psychological well-being. Whether he had some mental break? Amnesia? Hesitating in conversations? Etc.

I am going to run this by a woman I have known for 10 years. She lives here in Vegas. She's been a psychologist for like 15 years. I know her very, very well. I realize that some of you have posted symptoms of these problems on here from places like WebMD. But, I think being able to run the entire, specific scenario by a trained psychologist might be a little more helpful.

I will give her all of the facts including his monetary situation, driving miles and miles and miles, just showing up in Ruby Valley, etc. And see what she thinks. I should have some answers in a few days.

Granted, I am not a big believer in the "he lost his mind" scenario but I will try to represent those of you who think this as best as I can.

 

[laytonian]

Per Frank Mahoney of the Nevada Center for Missing Loved Ones - who was on the search:

Searched off Anthem Pkwy in the housing area of Sky Valley and Outlook Village door to door. All the flood channel in Sun City Anthem (approx 10-15 miles by ATV) all the surrounding desert by Metro helicopter and Henderson dirt bikes , Golf course on foot by the family.

Thank you.

Outlook Village is the subdivision bisected by Laurel Heights Lane, and contains Savannah Springs Ave. At least 200 homes.

Sky Valley is the subdivision next door, which you could reach by walking around the fence at the end of the cul de sac. At least as many homes.

That's a huge door-to-door canvassing, IF all homes were contacted.

All flood channels in SCA.
All surrounding desert by helicopter/dirt bikes.
Golf course on foot.

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Across the street from Anthem Parkway (south, the area with Evening Twilight Drive) is apparently not SCA (?) or somewhat different. Much smaller homes, closer together on smaller lots.

No mention of draining ponds. I guess they'll dry up soon?

 

[RubyRed]

The driver of the SUV had tunnel vision and didn't see anything, is that correct?

 

[laytonian]

Steven OBVIOUSLY walked AWAY from that home. I believe LE spoke to the owners or realtor a long time ago. IMO not worth looking into.

The home isn't.

But are we confident that the SUV driver had no later contact with Steven?

It's been reported they didn't even see him, yet he was walking east while they drove west...and was still walking while they parked.

The only thing that would convince me, is if the realtor had other people in her car that day.

 

[carbuff]

You guys have been busy while I was gone.

I guess if everybody who knew Steven says that's him in the video, I'm going to shelve my reservations about the identification.

 

[Fairy1]

Any word on the new flyer w/reward info? I notice the one on the timeline (which is the one I use) still says his passport is missing - guess we better take that out.

 

[Canyon1]

Thank you.

Outlook Village is the subdivision bisected by Laurel Heights Lane, and contains Savannah Springs Ave. At least 200 homes.

Sky Valley is the subdivision next door, which you could reach by walking around the fence at the end of the cul de sac. At least as many homes.

That's a huge door-to-door canvassing, IF all homes were contacted.

All flood channels in SCA.
All surrounding desert by helicopter/dirt bikes.
Golf course on foot.

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Across the street from Anthem Parkway (south, the area with Evening Twilight Drive) is apparently not SCA (?) or somewhat different. Much smaller homes, closer together on smaller lots.

No mention of draining ponds. I guess they'll dry up soon?

That's feasible to me. If you had even 30 people, that's about a dozen homes per person. I've been on searches where literally hundreds of people showed up--and that's in rural, isolated Southern Utah.

 

[dovebar]

There really needs to be a foot search of the surrounding area, and a better dog search. You can miss a lot from a dirt bike or ATV. The girl found in the San Diego park was only found by searchers looking up from the water who saw something odd about the shape of the dirt from that angle. The disturbed earth was not seen earlier.

If Steven was taken there, rather than walking there, cadaver dogs are also needed.

And wide posting of the reward on flyers in Vegas, rather than St. George may help. If anyone was involved, or saw something, money does help people come forward.

 

[laytonian]

Any word on the new flyer w/reward info? I notice the one on the timeline (which is the one I use) still says his passport is missing - guess we better take that out.

I haven't got a new URL to post there, and am running out of my own website webspace allocation.

 

[laytonian]

There really needs to be a foot search of the surrounding area, and a better dog search. You can miss a lot from a dirt bike or ATV. The girl found in the San Diego park was only found by searchers looking up from the water who saw something odd about the shape of the dirt from that angle. The disturbed earth was not seen earlier.

If Steven was taken there, rather than walking there, cadaver dogs are also needed.

And wide posting of the reward on flyers in Vegas, rather than St. George may help. If anyone was involved, or saw something, money does help people come forward.

I think, at this point, they're hoping for an accidental discovery. We know there's a footpath over on the other side of the hills, by the Del Webb School (ie, the shooting that got suddenly quiet about six weeks ago). But we don't know about one on this end.

From the pictures that Fairy1 took, it looks just like square miles of uninterupted, rocky, uninviting rolling desert....and unless you have a satellite map printout, you'd walk a long way from where the car was parked, to get there.

I think people who *know* what's suspected, will respond. The people who called 911 after spotting Mitchell and Barzee in SLC (with E Smart) did so because the suspect was finally ID'd by the little sister and publicized.

But when all the posters had Smart's picture on them, no one ever dropped a dime on her at the party, in the neighborhood, in San Diego, at Whole Foods in SLC.

If I were LE, I think I'd be questioning GW AND his friends in Vegas, neighbor JS, the landlord, window-washing boss TH, and the realtor who apparently didn't think it odd that a car was parked where it was and a much-too-young man was walking around. Id also, by now, have developed a map of where he had driven, by using his cellphone pings. It wouldn't be detailed, but it would show where/when.

 

[laytonian]

That's feasible to me. If you had even 30 people, that's about a dozen homes per person. I've been on searches where literally hundreds of people showed up--and that's in rural, isolated Southern Utah.

I think it's time for grid searches. Maybe once a week, plotted carefully, out in those undeveloped areas.

What else do we have left? Convoluted crime theories or a genius-level disappearance, without the clues that Nick Francisco left?

You know what I'd really like to see?

His friends and family in St George, Bountiful, Las Vegas, Rexburg, Ruby Valley (ALL of his friends) look closely at the map where the car was found, and see if they know ANYONE who lives within 3 miles of where Steven's car was found.

If we believe he went there on purpose and that there was nothing in his phone records or computer that leads to that destination: it had to have been face-to-face.

Who had Steven talked to, face-to-face, in the recent past? THOSE people are the primary people who need to be thinking hard right now.

 

[Fairy1]

I think it's time for grid searches. Maybe once a week, plotted carefully, out in those undeveloped areas.

What else do we have left? Convoluted crime theories or a genius-level disappearance, without the clues that Nick Francisco left?

You know what I'd really like to see?

His friends and family in St George, Bountiful, Las Vegas, Rexburg, Ruby Valley (ALL of his friends) look closely at the map where the car was found, and see if they know ANYONE who lives within 3 miles of where Steven's car was found.

If we believe he went there on purpose and that there was nothing in his phone records or computer that leads to that destination: it had to have been face-to-face.

Who had Steven talked to, face-to-face, in the recent past? THOSE people are the primary people who need to be thinking hard right now.

From what we've learned, it seems that Steven's circle of friends in St. George was fairly small and generally consisted of fellow church members.

The big unknown is who he may have met - in person - while working for the window washing business. He would have come into contact with lots of people not on the radar at all. Did someone offer him a proposition during his work-related travels? Face-to-face?

I wonder if his daily routes were pre-determined. Like, on Tuesday, you're going to hand out flyers in this neighborhood.