GUILTY NV - Tammy Meyers, 44, fatally shot at her Las Vegas home, 12 Feb 2015 - #1

[SStarr33]

Yet more than one person said he was pounding on the door at Eric's multiple times earlier this week?

And so he purposely didn't tell LE he knew the kid until today?

That is not what he stated in his interview.

 

[Irisha]

Please share any good info with us!

She gave me an headache.#NotAHaterLOL

 

[SStarr33]

They gave a "detailed"description down to eye color and a sketch was released. So why not just give the name and address. I know hubby is now saying he did tell the police but for some reason I just don't quite buy it. We are supposed to believe (this time) the police knew who it was but release a sketch anywAy?

Not sure. I do know in the Hernandez case LE released a fake sketch.

 

[cebee]

I cant think of a case I have ever heard of where LE asked the family of the deceased to approach the media with false information... that would require a level of trust in the family that I just cant see LE having....

 

[kimi_SFC]

Evy Poumpouras (Security Expert): It's very early to tell, obviously we don't have all the facts, we don't have the facts, but I don't think, I think when the facts do come out, it's gonna have nothing to do with road rage.

Dr. Drew: Yeah, I think you're right.

Evy S.: I really think that this is, I think that there's a lot more here. There's a history here. I would really want to know about the mother's relationship with this young man. I would want to know about their long walks, her mentoring him. What was their relationship there. There's a history there, and what enraged both him and her, especially her to the point where she wants to go get a weapon and look for him. This, to me, seems more of a crime related to passion, to emotion. That's the sense that I get.

Dr. Drew: Uh oh!

(Direct transcription from tonight's show)

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[chlban]

From what is being reported, police claim they didn't know who the suspect was until Thursday (today).

Which brings us back to WHY didn't LEAVE know. They cant had it both ways. Why wouldn't they tell the police until then?

 

[newone]

If the son and daughter did not know that Tammy knew him... just HOW did she meet the little ? Saw him on the street, told him to pull up his pants and come eat cookies and here, take some $$? Sorry.. most of the 'kids" I know in my neighborhood are friends of my kids. I do not just 'console' random teenaged boys..... And her HUBBY knows she does this but her kids do not?
Tammy may have known him... but am guessing it was not for life counseling and fashion recommendations~!

hmmmmm

wonder if the Mr had a chat with this young man at some point and that could be reason for wanting to kill mother??

 

[katydid23]

I cant think of a case I have ever heard of where LE asked the family of the deceased to approach the media with false information... that would require a level of trust in the family that I just cant see LE having....

The only thing I have seen them do in those cases is tell them to say NO COMMENT. But I have not seen them tell them to lie outright.

Also, the father began telling stories before he even left Cali. Tammy was not even declared dead yet when he began telling the media his stories.

 

[cebee]

Evy Poumpouras (Security Expert): It's very early to tell, obviously we don't have all the facts, we don't have the facts, but I don't think, I think when the facts do come out, it's gonna have nothing to do with road rage.

Dr. Drew: Yeah, I think you're right.

Evy S.: I really think that this is, I think that there's a lot more here. There's a history here. I would really want to know about the mother's relationship with this young man. I would want to know about their long walks, her mentoring him. What was their relationship there. There's a history there, and what enraged both him and her, especially her to the point where she wants to go get a weapon and look for him. This, to me, seems more of a crime related to passion, to emotion. That's the sense that I get.

Dr. Drew: Uh oh!

(Direct transcription from tonight's show)

:earson:

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I could go lots of ways with this... probably against the TOS but.. mom and daughter both have something going with the little ?? Did mom really take her daughter out to parellel park in the dark.. or did she catch the daughter with 'her' young man?? ( prob will get deleted but for the moment I get to speak my mind! =)

 

[sorrell skye]

They gave a "detailed"description down to eye color and a sketch was released. So why not just give the name and address. I know hubby is now saying he did tell the police but for some reason I just don't quite buy it. We are supposed to believe (this time) the police knew who it was but release a sketch anywAy?

BBM

I agree.

If the name & address of this guy had been given to LE at the beginning, LE wouldn't have waited over a week to arrest him. They would have arrested him last week, had they known what they now know.

In numerous articles, LE has reportedly stated that they didn't find out the family knew Eric until today. And guess what? When they found out, they immediately surrounded his house and arrested him.

I don't trust anything certain members of the Meyers family say at this point.

Their mother was shot and killed on their front lawn, but for some reason the son & daughter have actively obstructed the investigation. I can't think of any good reason to do that.

 

[kimi_SFC]

I'm curious how it comes across to you!

I found it hard to tell if they were updating with the new story version b/c they had just gotten it, or if they had it and just hadn't gotten to it b/c of everything else...

The Security Expert and both panelists have both gone on record to say that they're suspicious of a romantic relationship between suspect and TM (or the daughter).

The security expert was clear that there isn't enough information yet - but "NOTHING MAKES SENSE!"

:thud:

So, their HinkyMeters are in overdrive as well!

Whoa!


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[katydid23]

Evy Poumpouras (Security Expert): It's very early to tell, obviously we don't have all the facts, we don't have the facts, but I don't think, I think when the facts do come out, it's gonna have nothing to do with road rage.

Dr. Drew: Yeah, I think you're right.

Evy S.: I really think that this is, I think that there's a lot more here. There's a history here. I would really want to know about the mother's relationship with this young man. I would want to know about their long walks, her mentoring him. What was their relationship there. There's a history there, and what enraged both him and her, especially her to the point where she wants to go get a weapon and look for him. This, to me, seems more of a crime related to passion, to emotion. That's the sense that I get.

Dr. Drew: Uh oh!

(Direct transcription from tonight's show)

:earson:

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When you read the description of their time together, long walks to the park, heart to heart talks, her consoling him, teaching him to be a man, cooking for him.....sounds pretty deep, imo.

 

[charminglane]

Thank you to all our watchers/listeners/transcribers!

I soooo appreciate your dedication in this crazy soup of a case.

 

[wfgodot]

Daily Mail again, with updates, add-ons, and pictures galore:

'She fed him, she gave him money': the family of mother-of-four shot dead as she taught her
daughter to drive reveals how victim KNEW the pot-obsessed suspect arrested for her murder

 

[newone]

That is not what he stated in his interview.

I believe I saw the same in the video that you are referencing; that husband couldn't reveal what he knew so that LE could proceed with the investigation their way.....and then he went on a bit to extoll the virtues of LE and that he would not have anything further to say.

 

[cebee]

So if she is making him meals, etc... even if he were initially mad that they beeped at him... once he jumped out of the car and saw it was HER... ( or even the daughter if he was in a relationship with the daughter) you would think his reaction would be "oh! hey... Mrs M! How ya doing?" NOT "Im going to kill you and your daughter!"
Im going to guess... EN was off with daughter... mom caught them.. furious because a) he is NOT who she would want her daughter in a relationship with or b)furious that daughter is with the young man TM considers 'hers'...T grabs daughter.. takes her home with orders to STAY HOME! and T and son take off looking for him. If EN is a hot head, does he head over to 'settle' things? Maybe get the daughter get in the vehicle with him and the other man who is driving? But T and B come home... and gunplay occurs....
But then... why not tell police who it is... why protect him?
Back to the drawing board...

 

[katydid23]

So if she is making him meals, etc... even if he were initially mad that they beeped at him... once he jumped out of the car and saw it was HER... ( or even the daughter if he was in a relationship with the daughter) you would think his reaction would be "oh! hey... Mrs M! How ya doing?" NOT "Im going to kill you and your daughter!"
Im going to guess... EN was off with daughter... mom caught them.. furious because a) he is NOT who she would want her daughter in a relationship with or b)furious that daughter is with the young man TM considers 'hers'...T grabs daughter.. takes her home with orders to STAY HOME! and T and son take off looking for him. If EN is a hot head, does he head over to 'settle' things? Maybe get the daughter get in the vehicle with him and the other man who is driving? But T and B come home... and gunplay occurs....
But then... why not tell police who it is... why protect him?
Back to the drawing board...

Maybe they did not tell the story correctly. Maybe there was no road rage incident at all. Maybe at the birthday party, Tammy and/or her daughter find out something about EN that makes them very angry. And they confront him, call him, look for him etc. And when they do find him they argue and thats when the threats happen. And Mom takes daughter home and gets her son and the loaded weapon and they go seeking out EN again. If thta is the case, then they were possibly the aggressors. And they would not want to point out his identity to LE. JMO

 

[alwaysonmymind]

bbm: just because someone has been arrested doesn't preclude another person being charged later on especially if it is not known who fired the first shot right??? This may have an unexpected outcome MOO

I agree and think more arrests are warranted.


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[alwaysonmymind]

I believe I saw the same in the video that you are referencing; that husband couldn't reveal what he knew so that LE could proceed with the investigation their way.....and then he went on a bit to extoll the virtues of LE and that he would not have anything further to say.

'....he would not have anything further to say.'

Yuh, mm hmmm, right. [emoji23]


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[sorrell skye]

Evy Poumpouras (Security Expert): It's very early to tell, obviously we don't have all the facts, we don't have the facts, but I don't think, I think when the facts do come out, it's gonna have nothing to do with road rage.

Dr. Drew: Yeah, I think you're right.

Evy S.: I really think that this is, I think that there's a lot more here. There's a history here. I would really want to know about the mother's relationship with this young man. I would want to know about their long walks, her mentoring him. What was their relationship there. There's a history there, and what enraged both him and her, especially her to the point where she wants to go get a weapon and look for him. This, to me, seems more of a crime related to passion, to emotion. That's the sense that I get.

Dr. Drew: Uh oh!

(Direct transcription from tonight's show)

:earson:

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Regarding the above bolded bits, that's the same sense I had when I was pondering this case earlier today - based on the various versions of events, I can't help but go there as I try to figure out plausible scenarios. I mean, who goes hunting down someone in whom they claim to be in mortal fear? Nobody I know.

My imagination may be in overdrive, but since nothing in this case makes sense based on the witnesses ever-evolving versions and outright omissions/lies, nothing would surprise me at this point.