GUILTY NV - Tammy Meyers, 44, fatally shot at her Las Vegas home, 12 Feb 2015 - #5

[jayme1133]

How come this post doesn't have the link to the OP you are responding to? It is hard to follow without it.

It was to SpanishInqusition....not sure what I am doing wrong that the name doesn't appear? Sorry! Anyone help me?

 

[SStarr33]

It was to SpanishInqusition....not sure what I am doing wrong that the name doesn't appear? Sorry! Anyone help me?

Do you choose reply with quote when you respond?

 

[SStarr33]

What are you talking about? She's commenting on the grand jury and if the DA has a chance in hell of a conviction based on SpanshInquisitions ponderings about the LE disagreeing with the M's about an accident, and SpanishInqisition provides to links showing the disagreement on this point. One link shows M's claiming early on there was an accident. The other link shows LE stating there was no accident. She's wondering, many of us are wondering, how does the DA have a case when they can't agree on that point?

Usually it says Originally posted by (user name) with a little arrow thingy next to it.

 

[jayme1133]

Do you choose reply with quote when you respond?

NOPE!! But, I DO NOW!! TY

:facepalm:

 

[Miss Muffet]

It was to SpanishInqusition....not sure what I am doing wrong that the name doesn't appear? Sorry! Anyone help me?

Even without the quote, it was clear to me you were responding to SpanishInquisition.

I don't think there are any rules that we must quote posters. Sometimes it's best to not quote someone when making a statement or asking a question because it can make a poster feel targeted or engage them in bickering or a million other reasons.

 

[SeeAlice]

Exceptions to the hearsay rule are deceptively simple on the surface, but very complex in practice.

I have no doubt the defense will fight strenuously to keep out A&K's testimony. My non-lawyer's assessment is that they will fail, due to the "admission of guilt" hearsay exception.

I would guess the defense will also try to get RM's testimony about what BM & KM told him admitted. My non-lawyer's assessment is that they will fail, due to that testimony not falling under any of the hearsay exception rules.

They'll get Bob on the stand, no doubt. He'll testify about where he was when he heard about the shooting, and when he first got home after the shooting. He'll probably testify about any previous contact he had with EN, or times that he saw EN with TM or any of his kids. But I doubt they'll be allowed to ask him what BM & KM told him about what happened. Again, that's just my non-lawyer's assessment.

Bob might actually be smarter than what we give him credit for. He's kept the kids under wraps; they've hardly said anything publicly that they could be impeached for on the stand. Bob can't testify about what they've said to him, so he's free to say whatever he wants publicly, and it's likely that none of it will be admissible in court.

JMO, the Clauses will chew 'em up and spit 'em out.

 

[SStarr33]

NOPE!! But, I DO NOW!! TY

:facepalm:

No worries I don't get to read every post, so I use that little arrow thingy next to the name to go back and get caught up.

 

[Miss Muffet]

THANK YOU :blowkiss: However, you guys sure have great theories as to what happened. I really wish we knew more, I only have the police report to go on, all the rest is, well, not sure what to believe.. lol

You'd like to be on the jury and I think you'd be a great jurist, but I'd rather you weren't on the jury so you can share your thoughts here during the trial. I know, I'm being selfish. If you end up selected (wouldn't that be awesome), I'll be happy for you!

 

[Miss Muffet]

Aside from his distracting ''personna'', could his actions be 'construed' as witness tampering? (MOO)....he wasn't there but as a father he could be exerting pressure on his kids that they don't need at this point.....they have just lost their mom and are a bit off their game so to speak. Each of them needs a ''handler'' or a victim's advocate at this point ((MOO))

Great points!!!! I wonder if the defense can use that angle to get RM's statements in the courtroom?

 

[SeeAlice]

Has LE recovered the murder weapon?

Very good question.

 

[al66pine]

I don't believe it's even possible for RM to successfully sue the DA or LE on behalf of TM's estate for damage to her reputation. Slander and libel don't apply to dead people, right? I'm dumbfounded.

Pls, what has either LE or DA said about MrsM that would damage her reputation AND be untrue? Serious, not sarc. Thx in adv.

 

[SpanishInquisition]

question for you....The rush to GJ was obvious but he still has to prove the case! Where will he even begin?? Do you think its at all possible they can get a M1 conviction?

I see no benefit for a plea as I don't see how the DA could possibly prove M1. The best I could see is Manslaughter or M2 (because the shot came from a car, which legally may be defined as inherently reckless), but given witness credibility issues, I think the defense would be better off going to trial where EN could get off without even Manslaughter and I don't know if that legal result would or wouldn't comport to what actually happened that night. Not that I would trust what EN would say on the stand if he testified, just I couldn't see trusting BM enough to give a potential death sentence if not decades behind bars. It really boils down to what BM says given that they were both armed and both fired on Mt Shasta rather than something more clear cut like only one being armed or only one firing.

 

[SeeAlice]

Do they allow popcorn and Cokes in the courtroom gallery? I'm tempted to get a cheap flight to Vegas or use my dad's casino comps to go watch it live and in person!

(JMO - this trial would be almost as appealing as the May 2nd Floyd Mayweather Jr. - Manny Pacquiao bout to me. Fewer celebs though.)

 

[SeeAlice]

Did Bob post the name of his attorney? If not, I personally wouldn't be too confident he has really hired one.

JMO

 

[Miss Muffet]

Pls, what has either LE or DA said about MrsM that would damage her reputation AND be untrue? Serious, not sarc. Thx in adv.

Excellent question! :thinking:

 

[Miss Muffet]

Do they allow popcorn and Cokes in the courtroom gallery? I'm tempted to get a cheap flight to Vegas or use my dad's casino comps to go watch it live and in person!

(JMO - this trial would be almost as appealing as the May 2nd Floyd Mayweather Jr. - Manny Pacquiao bout to me. Fewer celebs though.)

That's a fantastic idea. I hope the trial gets postponed so I can save money to justify such a crazy expense. I'm trying to imagine my explaining to my husband why I'm going to Vegas to watch a murder trial. While I have complete freedom to do as I wish, I'm sure he'd give me some really strange looks and wonder if I had lost my mind! But the postponement has to be long enough to be past summer. I'll bet getting a seat will require camping out in front of the courthouse. The upside to that is there's no need for hotel expenses. LMAO!

 

[SpanishInquisition]

However, in most criminal cases, aren't the victims or their survivors usually called to testify by the prosecution?

JMO, on top of that, Bob will almost certainly insist on being allowed to speak to the jury.

There's the sentencing phase after a conviction where you had family members testify on that, but that isn't for establishing guilt.

 

[jayme1133]

That's a fantastic idea. I hope the trial gets postponed so I can save money to justify such a crazy expense. I'm trying to imagine my explaining to my husband why I'm going to Vegas. While I have complete freedom to do as I wish, I'm sure he'd give me some really strange looks and wonder if I had lost my mind! But the postponement has to be long enough to be past summer. I'll bet getting a seat will require camping out in front of the courthouse. The upside to that is there's no need for hotel expenses. LMAO!

Count me in!!! I will get the room and you can stay with me...we can discuss, cuss and re-discuss all night long!!!

 

[Miss Muffet]

Count me in!!! I will get the room and you can stay with me...we can discuss, cuss and re-discuss all night long!!!

Thank you!

And we can have martinis with PaperDoll!

OMG, it will be great fun!

 

[Hiandmighty]

Im in.