GUILTY NV - Tammy Meyers, 44, fatally shot at her Las Vegas home, 12 Feb 2015 - #7

[Deleted member 39678]

It amazes me that he has a gull to talk to a reporter to claim how innocent he is. Yet we have to leave all common sense at the door to believe somebody stole his car and his cell phone, went out to Meyers neighborhood, and then returned it without anyone noticing. That after DA got texts and calls from EN to come pick him up.

I was surprised when he made the claims he did to the reporter. His "I'm a victim of a police frame up" didn't sound believable to me.

It reminded me of how all prison inmates say that their not guilty. JMO.

 

[SeeAlice]

That's a very very good question. I just can't think of any answer that makes sense. Regardless of what set this whole thing off, or who was driving the car, or whether EN had deadly intentions when the Audi entered the cul de sac, or anything else........ why on earth would they not want TM's killer identified and apprehended?

The only reasons I can think of would get me banned from this forum THISQUICK.

 

[Deleted member 50844]

DA isn't claiming "mitigating circumstances." He is claiming he was not there at all.
Kind of funky "self-defense" case we have here. EN apparently isn't even talking to his lawyer, while his alleged co-conspirator claims he wasn't there at all.
Why is that, if that was a case self-defense?

I absolutely must apologize for my mis-read of your post. I didn't read that you were writing about the mitigating circumstances not applying to DA. I got confused (this whole case confuses me at times) and posted the circumstances that may or may not play into this case regarding EN.
I'm sorry about that.

 

[Deleted member 50844]

Thanks. I don't think that Tammy did anything that would make her culpable in her own death. Difficult personal history for the defendant? I hope that doesn't come into play at trial because everyone has difficulties in life and that's not an excuse to kill someone. JMO.

I respectfully disagree. I believe that she initiated the events leading to her death. I agree that lots of people have difficulties, but there again that's the law and I didn't write it nor is that just my opinion. It's a law. Whether the court uses that or not remains to be seen.

 

[newone]

Anybody catch the (Freudian?) slip by Brandon on page 31?

http://www.mynews3.com/media/lib/166/1/8/3/183997e6-0122-44f7-99b5-c23203a0e717/030515Nowsch.pdf

That's what I'm starting to believe: they never wanted an arrest and they thought they could prevent it from happening by giving police false, misleading and incomplete information.

JMO

Another piece of the puzzle I hope to learn more about, the real reason RM and Co. went to EN's house.

For what possible reasons could Tammy's husband, daughter and sons not want her killer/s apprehended and prosecuted?

That's a very very good question. I just can't think of any answer that makes sense. Regardless of what set this whole thing off, or who was driving the car, or whether EN had deadly intentions when the Audi entered the cul de sac, or anything else........ why on earth would they not want TM's killer identified and apprehended?

could it be something about ''snitches get stitches'' kind of thinking??? MOO

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I respectfully disagree. I believe that she initiated the events leading to her death. I agree that lots of people have difficulties, but there again that's the law and I didn't write it nor is that just my opinion. It's a law. Whether the court uses that or not remains to be seen.

How about this. I think that Tammy may have initiated the events leading to her murder but she's not culpable in her own death.

If we are only going to use the word "mitigating" in a legal sense we will have to wait and see if anyone is convicted. JMO.

 

[SeeAlice]

Ever hear of flakka? (AKA gravel.)Could explain some things, maybe. $5 insanity designer drug.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/fl-flakka-on-the-rise-20150402-story.html#page=1

 

[PaperDoll]

That's a very very good question. I just can't think of any answer that makes sense. Regardless of what set this whole thing off, or who was driving the car, or whether EN had deadly intentions when the Audi entered the cul de sac, or anything else........ why on earth would they not want TM's killer identified and apprehended?

I know there are a lot of reports flying around out there but I thought RM recognized EN AFTER he was arrested. I also thought he suspected him but wasn't sure and didn't want to say anything for fear "he knows where we live". "We knew he was bad but we didn't know he was this bad"

 

[sonjay]

I know there are a lot of reports flying around out there but I thought RM recognized EN AFTER he was arrested. I also thought he suspected him but wasn't sure and didn't want to say anything for fear "he knows where we live". "We knew he was bad but we didn't know he was this bad"

No, RM acknowledged that the family knew EN and knew that (the shooter? the road rager?) was EN. From RM's news conference that day: "Mommy knew who this was. He knew where we lived."

Of course, the road rager wasn't EN, so that admission is weird, because it was his latest explanation for why TM took BM & his gun and left the house.

IMO, what I think he would have said if he was actually being honest would have been something more like, "Mommy knew who she was going hunting for."

 

[LancelotLink]

This was when RM said the reason they left the house was to hide the car. So, why go to the sean of the minor car accident and then to the park? Were they gonna walk back?

 

[Miss Muffet]

This was when RM said the reason they left the house was to hide the car. So, why go to the sean of the minor car accident and then to the park? Were they gonna walk back?

Going back past the park isn't that noteworthy since there are only two roads back into their neighborhood when returning home from the north.

 

[sonjay]

Going back past the park isn't that noteworthy since there are only two roads back into their neighborhood when returning home from the north.

No, but repeatedly going to and past the park that night, when they had no particular reason to be out and about at all that night, when they knew that park is a hangout for drug dealers, when they knew there had already been (allegedly) a person at that park who had made them nervous during the alleged driving lesson..... Well, there's really no innocent explanation for their obsession with that park that night.

 

[sonjay]

This was when RM said the reason they left the house was to hide the car. So, why go to the sean of the minor car accident and then to the park? Were they gonna walk back?

Allegedly, the Sean of the minor car accident was over on Cimarron anyway.

Were they looking for the alleged road rager? Trying to hide the car? Trying to lure the bad guys away from the house because they knew where the Meyerses lived? Hunting specifically for EN? Who knows? (The Shadow knows.)

 

[suspicious1]

For what possible reasons could Tammy's husband, daughter and sons not want her killer/s apprehended and prosecuted?

Ive followed this case from the beginning and IMO, the Meyers didnt want EN caught because EN would then tell the WHOLE STORY (the backstory that a lot of you are looking for). I am one who believes that the Meyers had been harassing EN for quite some time prior to TM death.

IMO, they lied because the truth would NOT set them free.

JMO

 

[Deleted member 50844]

This was when RM said the reason they left the house was to hide the car. So, why go to the sean of the minor car accident and then to the park? Were they gonna walk back?

I still crack up every time I see 'sean' of the incident. Haha.

 

[suspicious1]

No, but repeatedly going to and past the park that night, when they had no particular reason to be out and about at all that night, when they knew that park is a hangout for drug dealers, when they knew there had already been (allegedly) a person at that park who had made them nervous during the alleged driving lesson..... Well, there's really no innocent explanation for their obsession with that park that night.

ITA. I never believed the driving story or the road rage story. IMO, their sole purpose for being out at that time of night was to find EN.

Jmo

 

[MzOpinion8d]

I still crack up every time I see 'sean' of the incident. Haha.

How did that come about? Autocorrect?

 

[sonjay]

How did that come about? Autocorrect?

That was what RM posted in one of his Facebook rants. It's possible it was an autocorrect mistake — but the pronunciation of the word "scene" sounds nothing like the pronunciation of the name "Sean," so I tend to think it was an RM mistake.

 

[Miss Muffet]

No, but repeatedly going to and past the park that night, when they had no particular reason to be out and about at all that night, when they knew that park is a hangout for drug dealers, when they knew there had already been (allegedly) a person at that park who had made them nervous during the alleged driving lesson..... Well, there's really no innocent explanation for their obsession with that park that night.

I see no obsession with the park whatsoever. Well, aside from your obsession with the park.

People don't need a particular reason to be out and about at night. My children and I take rides and drive around for no reason whatsoever. Well, there is a reason. My children open up to me when we're riding around in the car. Sometimes I grab them and take them for a ride to distract them from something bothering them. And we do sometimes just loop around the township, which causes us to pass certain areas a few times.

As PaperDoll already verified, the park isn't scary and she'd feel comfortable walking on the sidewalks next to the park after dark. She just wouldn't go inside the park after dark simply due to its massive size. As a result, driving by in a car wouldn't feel dangerous.

The fact there are only two streets heading into the neighborhood when approaching from the north makes it perfectly understandable they would drive down Villa Monterrey.

 

[LancelotLink]

Going back past the park isn't that noteworthy since there are only two roads back into their neighborhood when returning home from the north.

I believe this will prove to be noteworthy. To me, the park = EN.