GUILTY NV - Tammy Meyers, 44, fatally shot at her Las Vegas home, 12 Feb 2015 - #7

[jjenny]

A couple of decades ago, my ex and I experienced road rage late at night on a four lane highway. Our two cars were the only vehicles on that stretch of road. We ended up at a stop in the middle of an empty road with this guy jumping out of his car screaming at us for what seemed to be no apparent reason. The whole ordeal took a few minutes because my ex got out of our car too. It was quite a spectacle. Anyways, no other vehicles were in the area throughout that entire time.

There was just recently a case in Houston. Woman was shot in the head by a motorist in another car through a road rage motivation. They still haven't found the perp.

 

[jjenny]

There was just recently a case in Houston. Woman was shot in the head by a motorist in another car through a road rage motivation. They still haven't found the perp.

Here is the video of AD's interview. It's not the raw video. At least based on this version, I still have all the same major issues with his claims.
First he says he EN called him and texted him, but that "was it." Well, clearly that wasn't it, because he does admit to eventually going to pick EN up. He doesn't say when this change of mind took place. That doesn't add up to me.
Then he claims he picked EN up, EN didn't tell him anything about the murder. Yet he claims he asked EN to erase his contact information after he saw it on the media. If he saw news about Tammy being murdered, why would he even think EN was involved? The whole situation was originally described as a road rage, and EN didn't even have a car. The information about EN involvment in the murder came out during EN's stand off with the police, right before EN's arrest. Was he asking EN to erase cell phone records during the stand off? So that doesn't add up either.

http://www.nbcnews.com/watch/nbc-ne...nt-involved-in-killing-vegas-mom-419101763988

 

[Miss Muffet]

By "that was it," I think he means that was all that happened that night around the time of the shootings.

 

[al66pine]

Here is the video of AD's interview....

If he saw news about Tammy being murdered, why would he even think EN was involved? The whole situation was originally described as a road rage, and EN didn't even have a car....
http://www.nbcnews.com/watch/nbc-news-channel/accused-driver-i-wasnt-involved-in-killing-vegas-mom-419101763988

http://www.nbcnews.com/watch/nbc-ne...-in-killing-vegas-mom-419101763988[/QUOTE]bbmbbm sbm

Excellent observation.

 

[SpanishInquisition]

First he says he EN called him and texted him, but that "was it." Well, clearly that wasn't it, because he does admit to eventually going to pick EN up. He doesn't say when this change of mind took place. That doesn't add up to me.

At least according to the station it sounds like he addressed that in full interview, just they didn't air it in part of the clip. With that "that's it," that may be he's verbally checking off things that he did do in that he claims yes he did X and Y but no not Z.

Then he claims he picked EN up, EN didn't tell him anything about the murder. Yet he claims he asked EN to erase his contact information after he saw it on the media. If he saw news about Tammy being murdered, why would he even think EN was involved?

Not that they are the reasons, but there can be reasons. If he knew the color behind what was going on - alleged threats to EN and his family and that EN was packing heat and felt like he was under immediate danger at that moment - Andrews may have put 2 and 2 together that EN had something to do with it. Also for all we know he went to his mom afterwards and she tipped off CrimeStoppers on or before A and K did because we know that Marty Hart had been retained for some weeks (either she's paying for it or Andrews convinced him to work pro bono), but we don't know how many. The nature of his arrest seems curious to me in that what it sounds like that he had a lawyer for weeks and there had been ongoing communications between them and LE where he was basically under house arrest for some indeterminate time until after the indictment came down and I'd like to know how long that was and the extent of the communications.

The whole situation was originally described as a road rage, and EN didn't even have a car. The information about EN involvment in the murder came out during EN's stand off with the police, right before EN's arrest. Was he asking EN to erase cell phone records during the stand off? So that doesn't add up either.

I think we can learn a lot when we know the date of the erasure and the content of what was erased. These sorts of things are also why people here raise questions about the Meyers going over to EN's on 2/15 without telling the police why or that they even knew EN and they said they got that from social media while during this time there was still an APB for the 6' spikey-haired dude. I think the dates when people say they learned things and what they did on certain dates has been and will continue to be very revealing.

 

[Meddlesome Kid]

DA could have learned about the situation the same way the Ms say they did. Social media/neighborhood gossip. It's entirely possible these people all have some shared friends too.

If he found out through those methods prior to ENs arrest, it's possible for him to have both seen the news and had time to tell EN to erase him.

 

[Miss Muffet]

DA could have learned about the situation the same way the Ms say they did. Social media/neighborhood gossip. It's entirely possible these people all have some shared friends too.

If he found out through those methods prior to ENs arrest, it's possible for him to have both seen the news and had time to tell EN to erase him.

Exactly. Many people heard through the grapevine. That's how RM says he leanred about it. We know KK and ZA told someone named Aaron. I'm sure Aaron told people. Normal gossip spreads fast. Due to the shocking nature of this, I'll bet word spread like wildfire.

 

[SpanishInquisition]

DA could have learned about the situation the same way the Ms say they did. Social media/neighborhood gossip. It's entirely possible these people all have some shared friends too.

If he found out through those methods prior to ENs arrest, it's possible for him to have both seen the news and had time to tell EN to erase him.

I wonder who 'Aaron' was that KK mentioned and if he's from the neighborhood as he might have figured things out as well. Given where EN says he got picked up from KK's, it sounds like she lives within a few miles. However many people EN contacted particularly when he was at the park probably became suspicious as well, like we don't know if he only contacted two drivers or if it was only two of X drivers who responded. If Andrews was Car #2, he might have an extremely good idea to what went on and maybe even witness part of it (Car #2 could have seen part of the Villa Monterey chase if it was parked on Cherry River and the Buick could have driven by it if it was there) without taking part in it, but would be someone who could have deleted immediately after the event. If Andrews isn't Car #2, I'd want to know where/who that is and depending on when/if they deleted their messages they could face serious charges as well as that would open them to Conspiracy before 2/15 and Accessory after 2/15 and maybe more charges.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

It doesn't matter to me how Andrews "found out" about Nowsch's involvement in Tammy Meyers murder because I think he was driving the car when it happened. If someone talked to him later about it or he saw something on TV it doesn't mean he didn't already know what happened. JMO.

 

[SpanishInquisition]

It doesn't matter to me how Andrews "found out" about Nowsch's involvement in Tammy Meyers murder because I think he was driving the car when it happened. If someone talked to him later about it or he saw something on TV it doesn't mean he didn't already know what happened. JMO.

I can't dispute your opinion as it is yours, but it's a matter of - what do we know, what do we think we know and what can we prove. I very much want to see what evidence they have that puts him there as the driver since as of yet I haven't heard anything conclusive. He could have been the driver, himself planning the post-shooting car switch, etc., but I want to see what they have that shows him as that. I am curious what Andrews' mom told the GJ since she testified there and Castelano did the full interview plus he's read the revised GJ indictments and he described the situation as 'interesting,' so I'm dying to know the full content of both. For that matter I'm curious of which friend they went over to and if that person was consciously covering things up and if they were ignorant at the time of the car-switch immediately after the shooting as just a normal EN car-switch.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I can't dispute your opinion as it is yours, but it's a matter of - what do we know, what do we think we know and what can we prove. I very much want to see what evidence they have that puts him there as the driver since as of yet I haven't heard anything conclusive. He could have been the driver, himself planning the post-shooting car switch, etc., but I want to see what they have that shows him as that. I am curious what Andrews' mom told the GJ since she testified there and Castelano did the full interview plus he's read the revised GJ indictments and he described the situation as 'interesting,' so I'm dying to know the full content of both. For that matter I'm curious of which friend they went over to and if that person was consciously covering things up and if they were ignorant at the time of the car-switch immediately after the shooting as just a normal EN car-switch.

I would like to see more evidence too. We'll get to see more eventually.

 

[Snoods]

How do you know they are not looking for them?

It's my opinion due to LE's lack of public interaction about it and the Meyer's lack of concern. More so the Meyer's lack of concern. I believe RM would be screaming from the rooftop if he believed there was still a threat out there from this bunch of thugs that threatened to kill his family. I don't believe LE thinks any longer that there was a threat from a spiky hair guy in the first place.

When EN was arrested the police guarding the Meyer's house was stopped. Why? The ones who threatened their lives and threatened to come back and kill them are still out there.

 

[Miss Muffet]

I think RM is looking for the person in the sketch on his own.

 

[Snoods]

Personally, I think the DA is deliberately over-charging DA in order to apply pressure to get him to talk. I think he'll make a deal. Charges dropped, or reduced to something very minor, if he fingers EN. The DA really needs that, IMO — because there's still the chance that the judge won't admit EN's confession to Mogg, and without that, I think they're going to have a hard time proving EN was the shooter.

Eyewitness testimony from the driver who was in the car with him and saw him pull the trigger would be very good proof that EN was the shooter, even without EN's confession.

That's what I think. Purely my own opinion. JMO, IMO, MOO and all that jazz.

This is what I think too. They are pressuring the heck out of DA to take a deal and turn on EN. Then they can pressure EN and his attorneys to take a plea. I don't believe the prosecution wants this case to ever see a courtroom, no way.

 

[Snoods]

OK, I thought the arrow was his fix. must have been two problems.

I just had the same problem when I logged in and the arrow fixed it for me. Thank you!

 

[jjenny]

DA could have learned about the situation the same way the Ms say they did. Social media/neighborhood gossip. It's entirely possible these people all have some shared friends too.

If he found out through those methods prior to ENs arrest, it's possible for him to have both seen the news and had time to tell EN to erase him.

Except he claims he found out from the media.

 

[jjenny]

By "that was it," I think he means that was all that happened that night around the time of the shootings.

Except he claims he changed his mind and did go to pick up EN (presumably after the murder). So that (meaning texts and phone calls) wasn't it.

 

[Miss Muffet]

Except he claims he found out from the media.

Even though KK and ZA found out from Eric, they didn't so anything until they heard it in the media. I can DA hearing it through the grapevine but not taking action until hearing it in the media. Most people need confirmation before they believe the worst of someone.

Except he claims he changed his mind and did go to pick up EN (presumably after the murder). So that (meaning texts and phone calls) wasn't it.

You are taking his words out of context and interpreting them literally to only a specific portion of what he said. This helps me see how easy it will be for there to be a hung jury.

 

[jayme1133]

I think Claus will embarrass the DA.
Please answer this regardless who you think is innocent or guilty!! Why the rush for GJ indictment, reluctant to reveal evidence, rush to trial (i call BS on this one), don't explain the many"road rage"scenarios, or is it pressure to settle and lets not forget the re-election this year! This is considered a high profile case..Yet, I don't understand why we have had no investigators/reporters actually investigating, leaks, anonymous witnesses come forth, LVDA updates?


Come on my fellow sleuths!! There is a problem with this case and it goes back to Meyer's, I'm convinced!
Also, LVDA needs to do what is right ..... I would respect his honesty. But, don't grasp at innocent people or change the story to get a conviction!!


Not buying it!!

 

[SpanishInquisition]

Except he claims he changed his mind and did go to pick up EN (presumably after the murder). So that (meaning texts and phone calls) wasn't it.

The key phrase being around the time of the shootings. His claim is that around the time of the shootings that he called and texted only, while picking him up is at some indeterminate time after the shootings that we might or might not find out about if/when the full interview is released.