GUILTY NV - Tammy Meyers, 44, fatally shot at her Las Vegas home, 12 Feb 2015 - #8

[jjenny]

It specifically says the victim, which I'm wondering if the victim is repeating hearsay rather than what he actually saw: "The victim told police the blade of the knife was against a vein in his neck and Nowsch had his thumb pressed against the top of the blade." This other article also has some more details, though I don't know how accurate they are given how that the journalist gets other things wrong about the TM encounter:
http://www.scrippsmedia.com/ktnv/ne...my-Meyers-facing-other-charges-298814741.html

And? Victim couldn't feel the blade on his neck?

 

[sonjay]

And? Victim couldn't feel the blade on his neck?

Nobody said that.

 

[jjenny]

Nobody said that.

Then why is the victim accused of "repeating hearsay" as if the victim couldn't possibly feel the blade?

 

[SpanishInquisition]

Then why is the victim accused of "repeating hearsay" as if the victim couldn't possibly feel the blade?

You tell me as you're the only one who is saying it.

 

[SeeAlice]

Guess I missed this:

Nowsch’s defense lawyer, Conrad Claus, who has questioned the Meyers family’s version of events, told District Judge Michael Villani that they want “cell tower and/or GPS readings from all of the Meyers’ phones so we can know exactly what was going on the night in question.”

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/l...y-driver-make-court-appearance-meyers-slaying

 

[SeeAlice]

She figured this person was speeding, and right or wrong, they needed to be corrected,' Steiber said of the girl, who he said is 15. 'She honked the horn.'

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Then her mother went home to find her pad of citizens' arrest traffic citations so she could go back out, find him, and issue him one. Similar to Neighborhood Watch, I guess?

JMO

 

[PaperDoll]

Guess I missed this:

Nowsch’s defense lawyer, Conrad Claus, who has questioned the Meyers family’s version of events, told District Judge Michael Villani that they want “cell tower and/or GPS readings from all of the Meyers’ phones so we can know exactly what was going on the night in question.”

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/l...y-driver-make-court-appearance-meyers-slaying

We want it too

 

[Deleted member 50844]

Guess I missed this:

Nowsch’s defense lawyer, Conrad Claus, who has questioned the Meyers family’s version of events, told District Judge Michael Villani that they want “cell tower and/or GPS readings from all of the Meyers’ phones so we can know exactly what was going on the night in question.”

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/l...y-driver-make-court-appearance-meyers-slaying

Is there any way they can prevent the defense from getting these? I'll bet they fight tooth and nail to keep those out of court. MOO.

 

[sonjay]

Is there any way they can prevent the defense from getting these? I'll bet they fight tooth and nail to keep those out of court. MOO.

I'm sure the prosecution will want to keep those out of court. (And we all know why, don't we?) But I'd be very surprised if they're successful.

 

[sonjay]

The man's wife, who also asked not to be named, said she spoke with detectives on Wednesday because the suspect had put a knife to her daughter and her two friends at the weekend.

Actually I think this may be talking about the same event that EN is now charged with other than now a blind boy has been added to the story.

I think these have to be referring to the same incident. The Las Vegas Sun is reporting this:

Erich Milton Nowsch Jr. faces a battery with a weapon charge alleging that he used a black-handled folding knife to threaten the boy during a Feb. 15 street confrontation witnessed by the boy's sister and two other girls, according to court documents.

http://lasvegassun.com/news/2015/apr/06/new-charge-against-teen-held-slaying-neighborhood-/

A boy and 3 three girls, or simply 3 girls. Can't be two different incidents.

The "man's wife" in the earlier article somehow left out that EN held the knife to the throat of a blind boy (allegedly the brother of one of the 3 girls present). She claims he "put the knife" to her daughter and the daughter's two friends.

Not sure which it is. Or whether it happened at all.

 

[SeeAlice]

I think these have to be referring to the same incident. The Las Vegas Sun is reporting this:

Erich Milton Nowsch Jr. faces a battery with a weapon charge alleging that he used a black-handled folding knife to threaten the boy during a Feb. 15 street confrontation witnessed by the boy's sister and two other girls, according to court documents.

http://lasvegassun.com/news/2015/apr/06/new-charge-against-teen-held-slaying-neighborhood-/

A boy and 3 three girls, or simply 3 girls. Can't be two different incidents.

The "man's wife" in the earlier article somehow left out that EN held the knife to the throat of a blind boy (allegedly the brother of one of the 3 girls present). She claims he "put the knife" to her daughter and the daughter's two friends.

Not sure which it is. Or whether it happened at all.

That's why we have the poor little blind boy who doesn't know if he had on his eyeglasses. Plausible deniability.

JMO

 

[newone]

I'm sure the prosecution will want to keep those out of court. (And we all know why, don't we?) But I'd be very surprised if they're successful.

Along those same thoughts, I can't help but wonder about how much texting/posting KM might have been doing while big bro and mom were out and about....she indicated during the GJ she couldn't recall how long TM & son were gone....time flies when you are busy online. MOO

There was mention in MSM by one of the sons that there was a case of bullying involving his little sister and mom removed her FB page in solidarity with her daughter w/r/t the ''bullying'' experienced by her daughter. Would be interested in knowing the date of that occurrence to see if their is any connection to known 'frenemies' and the accused.

"When little sister Kristal was being bullied on Facebook, Tammy Meyers attempted to solve the problem by taking down not only her daughter’s account, but her own as well in solidarity''

http://www.reviewjournal.com/column...n-tammy-meyers-was-mom-people-would-want-have

 

[jjenny]

That's why we have the poor little blind boy who doesn't know if he had on his eyeglasses. Plausible deniability.

JMO

That's "why we have a poor little blind boy?" Nice to see how this thread gone to mocking a child who is an alleged victim of crime. How low can we go?
:banghead:

 

[SStarr33]

That's "why we have a poor little blind boy?" Nice to see how this thread gone to mocking a child who is an alleged victim of crime. How low can we go?
:banghead:

The slinging of mud at the victims of Erich Nowsch is disgusting.

 

[SStarr33]

Is there any way they can prevent the defense from getting these? I'll bet they fight tooth and nail to keep those out of court. MOO.

LOL, no they won't.

 

[PaperDoll]

If I'm reading this correctly I think EN has a court appearance today for the knife incident.

1.	Battery w/DW [50223]		200.481.2e1	Felony	02/15/2015

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		CTRACK Track Assignment JC02
		CTRACK Case ModifiedJurisdiction/DA;
		Criminal Complaint
		Request For Arrest Warrant
		Filed Under Seal
		Declaration of Warrant Summons (Affidavit)
		Arrest Warrant Request (7:30 AM) (Judicial Officer Sciscento, Joseph S.) Result: Signing Completed
		Minute Order - Department 02 (Judicial Officer: Sciscento, Joseph S. )
		Probable Cause Found (Judicial Officer: Sciscento, Joseph S. )
		Arrest Warrant Ordered to be Issued (Judicial Officer: Sciscento, Joseph S. ) 20,000/20,000
		Warrant Issued
		Arrest Warrant Confidential
		Arrest Warrant - Face Sheet
		CTRACK Case Modified
		CTRACK Case ModifiedArrestDate/04/07/2015;
		Warrant Cleared
		Warrant Arrest Documents
		Commentarrest warrant return hearing
		Warrant Service Slip
		Initial Appearance (7:45 AM) (Judicial Officer Sciscento, Joseph S.) in custody

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[SeeAlice]

If I'm reading this correctly I think EN has a court appearance today for the knife incident.

1.	Battery w/DW [50223]		200.481.2e1	Felony	02/15/2015

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		CTRACK Case ModifiedJurisdiction/DA;
		Criminal Complaint
		Request For Arrest Warrant
		Filed Under Seal
		Declaration of Warrant Summons (Affidavit)
		Arrest Warrant Request (7:30 AM) (Judicial Officer Sciscento, Joseph S.) Result: Signing Completed
		Minute Order - Department 02 (Judicial Officer: Sciscento, Joseph S. )
		Probable Cause Found (Judicial Officer: Sciscento, Joseph S. )
		Arrest Warrant Ordered to be Issued (Judicial Officer: Sciscento, Joseph S. ) 20,000/20,000
		Warrant Issued
		Arrest Warrant Confidential
		Arrest Warrant - Face Sheet
		CTRACK Case Modified
		CTRACK Case ModifiedArrestDate/04/07/2015;
		Warrant Cleared
		Warrant Arrest Documents
		Commentarrest warrant return hearing
		Warrant Service Slip
		Initial Appearance (7:45 AM) (Judicial Officer Sciscento, Joseph S.) in custody

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Thank you so much for finding and posting this, PD. (And just wow at the formatting of that when I quote the post!)

Criminal complaint filed 6 weeks after the fact? Who does that? More importantly, why? (btw - Actual questions, not commentary or snark.)


ETA - and why was it under seal?

JMO

 

[SpanishInquisition]

Thank you so much for finding and posting this, PD. (And just wow at the formatting of that when I quote the post!)

Criminal complaint filed 6 weeks after the fact? Who does that? More importantly, why? (btw - Actual questions, not commentary or snark.)


ETA - and why was it under seal?

JMO

I can't say why it is under seal, but as far as charging him later it sounds like there was a separation of time between interviewing the boy and the witnesses. The boy didn't ID Nowsch in a line-up so they didn't arrest him them, but sometime later after speaking to the witnesses who were able to ID him in a line-up did they charge him:
http://www.scrippsmedia.com/ktnv/ne...my-Meyers-facing-other-charges-298814741.html

 

[sonjay]

I can't say why it is under seal, but as far as charging him later it sounds like there was a separation of time between interviewing the boy and the witnesses. The boy didn't ID Nowsch in a line-up so they didn't arrest him them, but sometime later after speaking to the witnesses who were able to ID him in a line-up did they charge him:
http://www.scrippsmedia.com/ktnv/ne...my-Meyers-facing-other-charges-298814741.html

Wait... the blind teenager saw EN across the street. But he "was unable to identify Nowsch in a lineup because he was not wearing his glasses at the time of the incident."

Then, sometime later, after EN's picture has been displayed prominently on nearly every website in the known universe, the other people who were with the blind teenager were able to identify EN in a lineup.

Also interesting that after the blind teen saw EN across the street, EN started yelling at him and crossed the street and pulled a knife and put it to his throat and "asked him if he was going to do anything." But absolutely zero information about what might have set off EN to do that. Just out of the blue, he crossed the street, started yelling & cursing at this blind kid, put a knife to his throat, and asked him if he was "going to do anything."

Okay. I find this account only slightly more credible than the driving lessons and road rage story.

 

[SeeAlice]

Wait... the blind teenager saw EN across the street. But he "was unable to identify Nowsch in a lineup because he was not wearing his glasses at the time of the incident."

Then, sometime later, after EN's picture has been displayed prominently on nearly every website in the known universe, the other people who were with the blind teenager were able to identify EN in a lineup.

Also interesting that after the blind teen saw EN across the street, EN started yelling at him and crossed the street and pulled a knife and put it to his throat and "asked him if he was going to do anything." But absolutely zero information about what might have set off EN to do that. Just out of the blue, he crossed the street, started yelling & cursing at this blind kid, put a knife to his throat, and asked him if he was "going to do anything."

Okay. I find this account only slightly more credible than the driving lessons and road rage story.

This kind of crap does not inspire confidence in this case, IMO.