NV NV - Wellington, WhtMale 574UMNV, 35-50, off Sand Canyon Road, Mar'92 - #1

[Tulessa]

OMG! Detectives! I just noticed you are near THE BEST fish tacos I've ever had!

The gas station at the intersection of 120 and 395 across from Mono Lake.

http://www.whoanelliedeli.com/

You might be two hours away, but you're certainly closer than I am at 2,500 miles away.

Someone earlier commented that the area is remote, and it is and it isn't. Wellington is near the route we took from Yosemite to Tahoe a couple of years ago.

Give me a heart attack! I'm following your posts so close, that this startled me! :floorlaugh: You're coming up with some good ones MM!

 

[Miss Muffet]

Give me a heart attack! I'm following your posts so close, that this startled me! :floorlaugh: You're coming up with some good ones MM!

Well, the tacos are that good!

Here are some pictures of that part of our vacation to give an idea of what the area is like. The first two are at the gas station with the amazing tacos. The last ones are at a memorial on the side of the road for an air tanker crew who perished fighting forest fire there. Firemen from all over the country have left their tee-shirts and patches on the fence. I believe the memorial is closer to Wellington than the taco gas station.

It's very sparsely populated compared to what I'm used to, but the main road is well traveled by locals and tourists or anyone traveling between cities. You don't have to go far off it to be off the beaten path, but it doesn't appear to be difficult to get to Wellington.

 

[wenwe4]

OMG! Detectives! I just noticed you are near THE BEST fish tacos I've ever had!

The gas station at the intersection of 120 and 395 across from Mono Lake.

I'm talking gourmet level food at a gas station. http://www.whoanelliedeli.com/

You might be two hours away, but you're certainly closer than I am at 2,500 miles away.

Someone commented earlier that the area is remote. It is and it isn't.

I just realized Wellington is just off the route we took from Yosemite to Tahoe a couple of years ago.

OT - You are one bold lady! (Fish tacos at a gas station)

 

[wenwe4]

I'll go ahead and share this one I was discussing above. His brother probably killed him in Michigan, but I'm going to error on the side of caution because there's a remote chance he ran away and disappeared. If he didn't have this dark strawberry blonde hair, I wouldn't bother.

Joey Johnathan Haines
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/show/18103
Last Seen: Monroe, Michigan
Date Last Seen: June 15, 1991
Age Last Seen: 26
Gender: M
Race: White
Hair: Strawberry Blonde
Eyes: Blue
Height: 73
Weight 190
Circumstances: I found the circumstances on this website: http://www.nampn.org/cases/haines_joey_johnathon.html

There was a family argument involving Joey Haines and his brother Ron Haines. Joey Haines walked out of the house, leaving his vehicle behind & his brother Ron followed. This was the last time that Haines Daughter Christina who was 7 saw her Father Joey Haines. It was also reported that Joey Haines and his brother Ron Haines were in a bar and got into an argument. They left the bar and got into Ron's van. Joey jumped out of the van and ran into a wooded area behind a Flat Rock bar. He then disappeared. There have been no telephone calls, no notes,& no contact from Joey Haines to his Family & Friends. The Victims family state that Joey Haines Social Security number hasn't been used since June 1991.

Is this the same one that was posted previously with a link to a webpage from the daughter? His story sounds so familiar and I was thinking I hadn't yet looked in Michigan on the doe site?

 

[Miss Muffet]

OT - You are one bold lady! (Fish tacos at a gas station)

Look at the menu! This place is in the middle of nowhere and it's PACKED.

We were tipped off about the tacos by friends we met at Yosemite. They gave us the keys to their house in Tahoe to borrow. He whispered in my husband's ear and told him we had to stop for tacos at the gas station. Now I'm publishing it to the world that this gas station has AMAZING tacos. lol

The second best tacos I've ever had are sold all winter on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere in Vermont. I get tacos there every year when I visit. I guess I am daring.

 

[Miss Muffet]

Is this the same one that was posted previously with a link to a webpage from the daughter? His story sounds so familiar and I was thinking I hadn't yet looked in Michigan on the doe site?

I searched his name in the thread before posting it. Nothing came up. When I was searching his name in google, I believe I saw he has his own missing person's thread here on WS. That might be why it's familiar to you.

ETA: Here's his websleuth's thread: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?198985-MI-Joey-Haines-26-Monroe-15-June-1991

 

[carbuff]

Here is a very long shot dude. Milan Vucurevich Jr. and two friends went missing in 1984 while sailing off Kauia, Hawaii. No trace of them or their boat was ever found. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/v/vucurevich_milan.html
Article with more information: http://articles.latimes.com/1985-03-24/news/ga-30522_1_false-hope

He was 37 in 1984, would have been 44 in 1991, so within range. 6'5" is a bit over height. Brown hair that's clearly graying, but hard to tell if it would look red in the sun. Two of them were experienced sailors. But what grabbed me most is the nose.

I realize the circumstances are pretty much impossible, but...

 

[wenwe4]

OK kids . . . I made a quick list of submitted possiblitites
1) **means the actual number on the Master list has not yet been assigned nor are these entered on the Master
2) I noted all post numbers on this thread with "p" to quickly refer back to the post.

At least we have a quick list to reference before posting more at this point.

NV UID
1) John Kreyche Illinois post 29 R/O dna
2) Douglas Meer Colorado post 29, 104 R/O dna
3) David M Black 6’0 blonde p158 pending R/O
4) *Christopher Huffman 6’ blonde p151, 158 R/O Dental p277
5) Brian Ranken – 6’0 brn p36 R/O dental
6) James Zinza 6’1” sandy p38
7) Dean T Spencer p38 *hair too gray not at this time
8) *Bobby Beich 5’11 brn p51, 103, 147 pending
9) Timothy R O’Kane 6’2” – 6’4” brn age 28 & 34 p118, p233
10) Clifford R Peranteau 6’1 blonde age 23 p60, 157, 195
11) Richard Ashley – p117 R/O Dental
12) Frederick Cain 6’0 Red/Auburn age 41 p71, p216
13) Timothy Sparrow 6’3 Red/Auburn age 40 p71
14) Jack Simmons 6’2” Red/Auburn age 24 p71 Not Considered p190
15) Gordon B Lopez 6’2 – 6’5” Dark Brn to Red age 21 p71
16) Paul A Matthews 5’11” Red age 26 p71
17) Barry K Douglas 6’0” Red age 31 p71
18) Gordon T Page 6’0 - 6’3” brn p111, 121 dental
19) Curtis W Jones 6’0 – 6’1” red 47 (dna has been requested p129)
20) Michael Smith p135 p142 said R/O Dental
21) Wallace L Vaughan 5’10” brn 27 p144, 145, 146, 150-LEO rule out height
22) Kenneth B Patterson 5’9 – 6’ (master said 5”11 – 6’2”no photo) 28 y/o p137
23) Kent T Ware 6’ strawberry blonde age 22 (master has no photo) p137
24) *Daniel A Birchfield 5’ – 6’2” Blonde/Strawberry p137
25) Joseph Fiala 6’2” Blonde/Strawberry p137
26) James T Dimick 6’1 (no photo 6’3” ) age 30 p137
27) Dale W Strassburger 5’8 – 6’2 Blonde/Strawberry age 35 p137
28) William D Bowman 6’2 brn age 33 p153
29) Luke Robinson 6’0 – 6’2” brn age 24 missing 2 teeth p154
30) Charles R Davies III 5’11” brn missing left eye tooth age 24 p154
31) Thomas L McFarlin 5’10” – 6’3” reddish brown age 34 p157, 193
32) ? * Brenton Garmire 6’3 brn rugged outdoorsman p158
33) Stanley Post 6’0 brn p158
34) Thomas Moody 5’11 brn p158
35) Teddy Morris 5’10 brn missing back teeth p158 R/O Dentals p194
36) Michael T Clarke 6’0 – 7’ 40 - 50 y/o p159
37) Allen A Hoffman 5’10 blonde (teeth #3,14,30) age 25 p202
38) Luther V Smith 6’0 sandy p202
39) Louis Negeulourart 6’1 brn age 61 p202
40) *?
41) Jeffrey L O’Carroll 5’10 – 6’ age 36 p208
42) David V Lovely 6’4” brn (reddish?) mid 20’s at time p208
43) Timothy D Moreau “tall red hair” 21 p208
44) James L. Proctor 6’ brn age 47 p208
45) Bradley J Wakefield 6’1 brn
46) Howard Dearmon 6’1 brn/bald age 52 p208
47) John W Wagner 5’10 brn p204, 209 Possible R/O see p219
48) **Ralph A Newcombe 5’11 brn 35 y/o p213
49) **Jeffrey J Baker 6’ Brn p213
50) **Daniel R Turpin 6’ Brn age 26 p213
51) **Jason M Goddard 6’2 blonde (looks red in pic) age 20 p213
52) **Billy Storkson 5’9” age 36 p216
53) **Michael B Gove 5’9” brn age 41p217 R/O Dental/height p221
54) **Michael Chouinard 6’0 blonde age 28 p217
55) **Curtis A Holmen 6’5” blonde (looks reddish & matches LEO) 31 p218
56) **Richard S. Meyer 5’10” dark brn age 39 p218
57) **Arden Bogart Jr 6’ Brn age 24ish dentals avail p218
58) **Roy J Hagel 5’11” – 6’ Brown age 38 p222
59) **Randy W. Leach 6’ brn age 22ish wears levis dentals/dna avail p222
60) **Randy W. Longman 5’11” brown age 27ish p222
61) **Michael E Ashby 6’1 Red age 23 (rept missing after date) p222
62) **Clinton Heines 6’3 Blonde age 31 p222
63) **William C Stonecipher 5’10” blonde age 32 p222
64) **Kyle Ervin III 6’1 Brn age 26 dentals/dna avail p222
65) **Canada**Edmond J Belliveau Jr 6’0 brn age 33 p227
66) **Canada** Rodney L Sloat 6’1” brn age 31 p227
67) **John W Flowers 6’1 brn age 44 p231
68) **Charles M Butler 6’ black? Age 46 p242
69) **William Brennan 5’11 Brn age 39 p245
70) **Clyde E Stansberry 5’11 – 6’1 Red/Auburn age 44-45 p246
71) **John W Alley 5’11’ brn age 29 p253
72) **Kim L Allgood aka Randy Galloway 5’10 – 6’2 Strawberry blonde p254
73) **George Lutas 6’ brn age 26 p256
74) **Barry B Obrian 6’2 brn age 34 p257
75) **Joey Johnathan Haines 6’1 Strawberry Blonde age 26 p259 & p266 WS thread
76) **Milan Vucurevich Jr 6’5” brn/grey age 44 p267

 

[Miss Muffet]

Since it was difficult to find the link to the master document via flipping through pages, I've started using the "search thread" feature before posting a name. It just takes a second. Now, that and all the lists in the world won't prevent me from double posting because I've been known to forget to check. LOL

 

[Miss Muffet]

Johnathan Haines is Joey Johnathan Haines. Believe it or not, Joey is his given first name, not a nickname.

 

[bessie]

Why not add a tag at the bottom of the page which reads something like, List post #

 

[wenwe4]

Johnathan Haines is Joey Johnathan Haines Believe it or not, Joey is his given first name, not a nickname.

thank you! corrected.

 

[Miss Muffet]

Why not add a tag at the bottom of the page which reads something like, List post #

How do we tag? It sounds like a good idea, but I've never done it before.

 

[wenwe4]

How do we tag? It sounds like a good idea, but I've never done it before.

Scroll down almost to bottom of page on the right there is a button that says "add/edit tags" click that and you will be allowed to enter up to 20 tags for this thread

 

[Miss Muffet]

Scroll down almost to bottom of page on the right there is a button that says "add/edit tags" click that and you will be allowed to enter up to 20 tags for this thread

Cool. Thanks for sharing. I've never used the tags. When I click on them, they don't take me anywhere specific---just to the whole thread. Are the tags not working correctly or am I doing something incorrectly when I'm trying to use the existing tags to get somewhere?

 

[wenwe4]

Cool. Thanks for sharing. I've never used the tags. When I click on them, they don't take me anywhere specific---just to the whole thread. Are the tags not working correctly or am I doing something incorrectly when I'm trying to use the existing tags to get somewhere?

I don't think they take you anywhere - they just alert you to some topics of discussion on the thread. But the way Bessie suggested using it as a quick reference (ie: post #268) to find the list of names submitted already. As you see below in the "tags" area - it shows up. I will probably have a few of those by the end of this thread as I update the list. I should have noted the LEO posts and the posts with links to the master list when I was reading through all of them again. If I have time maybe later or we can from here on out.

ETA: I did this during the Casey Anthony trial for post numbers of the pseudo-transcripts I typed during trial. That way people could quickly catch up to speed on what was happening in the courtroom.

 

[lcsodetectives]

Detectives: Was this guy balding or receding on top?

That's unknown.

http://doenetwork.org/cases/696dmca.html

Christopher Huffman has been ruled out. He was missing teeth which were present in John Doe.

 

[wenwe4]

That's unknown.

http://doenetwork.org/cases/696dmca.html

Christopher Huffman has been ruled out. He was missing teeth which were present in John Doe.

I was still able to update the list in post #268 so this is now corrected.

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

Update....

The good news is we now have a DNA profile entered into CODIS for our John Doe, which is a huge step in the right direction! Unfortunately, we do not have any "hits" on the profile at this time.

We need your help. Attached is a photograph of a piece of a T-shirt. We believe the T-shirt was originally white. We need your help with identifying the design. Does anyone recognize it? Thank you in advance for your time and efforts!

Concerning the t-shirt on page 2 of this thread: the feathers resemble those of the peregrine falcon in the Big Bend Nat'l Park tee shirts. Wondering if Big Bend or another southwest national/state park had a tee with a peregrine falcon with setting sun behind it back in the early 1990's?



Tee photo from p.2:


(Sorry if this has already been discussed; haven't had time to read all the pages, yet.)

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

There was an abandoned car traced back to an owner in CO. The tee looks more like a national or state park tee than a team tee shirt, but it's interesting that the "Falcons" are collegiate teams representing the USAFA near Colo Springs. I wondered for an instant if that might be a falcon superimposed on an orange basketball rather than a sun. But, to me the tee shirt in question looks more naturalistic than team logos generally get. So I'm still leaning towards it being a state or national park type tee shirt.